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The Borg... but hear me out

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The Enterprise enters a new region of space on their exploration mission. A truly MASSIVE Borg cube approaches, and makes the usual demands. Spock gives an analysis that makes it clear that the Enterprise is hopelessly outmatched. Kirk tries to negotiate first contact, anyway, but quickly figures out that isn't going to work. So he orders Sulu to fly away, maximum warp. For a moment, it looks like they're pulling away, but then the cube begins to catch up. Kirk thinks, then calls down to Scotty and asks if he can bring the aquatic pressure shields up, and Scotty says he can, but he doesn't understand why, and Kirk says to trust him. Those shields go up, putting an odd shimmer around the ship, and Kirk orders all stop and to turn about to face the cube. The cube approaches, makes its usual demands once more. And then also demands an explanation for the unfamiliar energy readings.

Kirk explains that they have a Corbomite device engaged, and that any destructive energies directed at their ship will be reflected back at the cube damaging it. There's a pause, and then the Borg break communication. And then everyone just sits there for a moment, and McCoy says he guesses the bluff actually worked, and the bridge crew begins discussing options from here. Before they actually put anything into motion, though, the Borg reappear on screen, say "we will add the understanding of this technology to our own", and Spock reports that the Borg are beaming the crew off of the ship in groups. Kirk begins to give an order, but before he can complete it, the bridge crew (including McCoy and Scotty at the moment) is beamed away.

They end up on the interior of the cube, and we have a similar sequence to the first time the TNG crew visited a cube, only with reactions from the TOS characters as they would have reacted - McCoy's reaction to the incubation chambers, for instance. Scotty and Uhura figure out that the drones communicate through subspace, and a way to multiply the signals using Uhura's earpiece that should disrupt the Collective's ability to control anything. Kirk says to go ahead, they do, and the drones all fall inactive. They then head for what they believe is the ship's central control node.

The door opens, and there is.... Balok! (Played by Clint Howard again, of course.) It turns out, this was all a test to see how peaceful the Federation was, how long it would be before they resorted to violence. And they passed. The holograms drop away, and we are treated to a look at the Fesarius in modern FX. More aliens file into the room from a door on the other side - Trill, Betazoid, others - and Balok explains that they represent the First Federation, and are now interested in opening a dialog with their government. And so joyously offers them all tranya that it visibly drains the irritation and tension from our crew.

No explanation is given for the Borg in this movie - but perhaps in a later film when it becomes relevant, it could be explained that Balok modeled his threat on a real threat that the First Federation was familiar with from the other side of their space.

I dunno. It feels like it needs something else - a B plot, maybe, but it can't be Bailey, because that would give the whole thing away too early in the film.
 
I had thought it was an almost certainty the Borg were going to be in the movie, but now that Orci is gone and the movie is being written and directed by someone outside the Bad Robot Cadre, I really don't know what to expect.
 
I would not like to see the Borg in a Star Trek film that focuses on the original crew, I admit it would be interested to see or read about maybe in comic / book form. But to be honest I would like the Borg to remain very much a Next Generation enemy. From another stand point during the OS era of events the Borg could still be very much gathering pace, as in they are not the powerhouse they are when it comes to TNG.
However I wouldnt be devistated if they did go that route, and your idea is interesting.
 
Borg in a nuTrek movie?!?
Fuck no...
They have the chance to do something different, so no Borg please...
 
No. No. Hell No!



In this alternate reality, Q never introduces us to the Borg, nor does he bring US to THEIR attention. The Borg quickly became THE go-to bad guy for TNG. I didn't like that, especially when they kept showing up in all the rest of the series, as well.
 
The alternate reality is set after Enterprise though, and by then the Borg had already sent out a signal to the DQ.

Not saying I want the Borg there (we haven't seen the Borg on screen in, what, , but there's an opening to exploit. Even if the reasoning isn't used (as if they came out of nowhere), there's still that opening. The writers would have to go out of their way -- such as coming up with a completely different origin -- to contradict that, and that just seems to be extra work.

But in any case, it's been 12 years since we've seen the Borg on screen. While they might be overdone for Trekkies like us, the general audience hasn't seen them in years.
 
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The Borg have already been in the Bad Robot approved Starfleet Academy novels set during the three year gap in Trek XI. While Trek fans might be sick of the Borg, they are well-known villain among non-fans. And zombies are cool at the moment. All these things considered, one should not be surprised if the Borg show up in an Abramsverse movie. Although now that Orci is out of the picture, it's less likely, but not impossible.
 
The Borg have already been in the Bad Robot approved Starfleet Academy novels set during the three year gap in Trek XI. While Trek fans might be sick of the Borg, they are well-known villain among non-fans. And zombies are cool at the moment. All these things considered, one should not be surprised if the Borg show up in an Abramsverse movie. Although now that Orci is out of the picture, it's less likely, but not impossible.

That's why I said on screen, as opposed to other media where they've been shown more consistently. but yes, they're well known among non-Trekkies, and even a couple catchphrases are still in use. If the Borg are ever featured in an Abramsverse movie, I wouldn't be surprised.
 
but yes, they're well known among non-Trekkies, and even a couple catchphrases are still in use.

I remember English class when I was in junior high. When asked to define the word assimilate, even the non-Trek fans in the class said "what the Borg in Star Trek do" and were surprised to find out the word wasn't created in Star Trek.
 
Once upon a time, I would have fallen into the "No more Borg" camp, but at this point the last time we saw them on screen was like 10 years ago in that episode of ENT. Voyager has been off the air for 14 years.

I think enough time has passed that I wouldn't be upset if the Borg showed up again.
 
I wont mind the borg as long as they don't borrow from first contact like STID borrowed from WOK.
 
@Sector_7: To be fair, Q didn't alert the Borg to the existence of the Federation - the Borg cube seen in 'Q Who' was already headed towards Federation territory. And as we would later learn, ENT's "Regeneration" was the reason why. ;)

I admit I am curious as to how Kirk and his crew would deal with the Borg. I don't really want to see them in an Abrams film, but if they do it well, I'll enjoy it. Just have to wait and see, I guess. :shrug:

The only way I would actually want, in a "SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!" sense, to see the Borg again is if the Destiny trilogy was filmed...
 
but yes, they're well known among non-Trekkies, and even a couple catchphrases are still in use.

I remember English class when I was in junior high. When asked to define the word assimilate, even the non-Trek fans in the class said "what the Borg in Star Trek do" and were surprised to find out the word wasn't created in Star Trek.

Ooh, I got one: for years in the 90s up until, I'd say mid-00s, there was a futon store in Chicago's Wicker Park. Throughout its entire run, it had a cardboard cutout of a Borg Drone on the front window with a word bubble that said, "Resistance is futon!"

Obviously the store owner was a Trekkie, but he was also advertising to the entire neighborhood and every passerby, too. It was cute. And yeah, it was my favorite futon store in the city (not that I ever bought one, mind you).
 
I wont mind the borg as long as they don't borrow from first contact like STID borrowed from WOK.

Mr. Spock, I'm sure it's a fascinating experience, but perhaps you should activate your emotion inhibitor for now.


Then it is revealed that the emotion inhibitor is Borg technology and the Borg King ends up trying to take control over Spock with it.
 
The Borg have already been in the Bad Robot approved Starfleet Academy novels set during the three year gap in Trek XI. While Trek fans might be sick of the Borg, they are well-known villain among non-fans. And zombies are cool at the moment. All these things considered, one should not be surprised if the Borg show up in an Abramsverse movie. Although now that Orci is out of the picture, it's less likely, but not impossible.

One stranded Borg might make an interesting Terminator-style adversary. The thing we really don't need to see in a new ST movie is the Q.
 
The Borg have already been in the Bad Robot approved Starfleet Academy novels set during the three year gap in Trek XI. While Trek fans might be sick of the Borg, they are well-known villain among non-fans. And zombies are cool at the moment. All these things considered, one should not be surprised if the Borg show up in an Abramsverse movie. Although now that Orci is out of the picture, it's less likely, but not impossible.

One stranded Borg might make an interesting Terminator-style adversary. The thing we really don't need to see in a new ST movie is the Q.

Q's already been in the comics. A whole six issue story arc devoted to him in fact.
 
The Borg have already been in the Bad Robot approved Starfleet Academy novels set during the three year gap in Trek XI. While Trek fans might be sick of the Borg, they are well-known villain among non-fans. And zombies are cool at the moment. All these things considered, one should not be surprised if the Borg show up in an Abramsverse movie. Although now that Orci is out of the picture, it's less likely, but not impossible.

One stranded Borg might make an interesting Terminator-style adversary. The thing we really don't need to see in a new ST movie is the Q.

Q's already been in the comics. A whole six issue story arc devoted to him in fact.

A rather interesting storyline too, in my opinion. I don't usually like Q storylines, but that one gave a whole new viewpoint that I had not considered.
 
Star Trek Generations begins in the late 23rd Century, and has El Aurian refugees, who had been in flight for a while, fleeing the Borg's attack on their system. Presumably warp speeds are faster in the alternate reality, and that brings them closer to the Federation's sphere of influence.

The Borg are best depicted without their Queen, but that also doesn't give them a central presence. There's no negotiation or deals to be made with a leader. It's more about their effect on others, like some force of nature devastating whatever happens to be in their path.

I'd probably keep them on that basis, and have the central antagonist be Soran. Encountered 30 years earlier, and he's a scientist without an obsession with the Nexus. Instead he's obsessed with getting back at the Borg I guess.

Or go further back. El Auria has yet to be attacked, and Soran's even more of a blank page. Then Kirk's Enterprise shows up... does a bit of exploring. We find out how strange their world was and why the Borg might've found their civilization such a target. And nearer the film's end, Soran becomes the person who unwittingly attracts their attention.
 
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