The Benny Russell ending of DS9
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Please do this with DISCO. It was all a dream.
More accurately, another AU within the Trek canon, similar to the JJ-verse. It would've explained a darker Federation, Klingon redesign, Vulcans having inter-stellar telephatic powers (not to mention adopting a human as their foster child), etc.
Nah. I imagine her waking up in Seth MacFarlane's bathroom and finds out from him it is his series that actually takes place in the Trek canon/ Prime universe, not DISCO
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They should add a scene where Jonathan Frakes is walking around in the background observing everything, just to troll us.
That might be a neat concept for an Orville episode, actually. It wouldn't quite fit in Discovery. Have Jonathan Frakes playing some character in the future of the Orville universe. He's in a TATV style recreation, only there's a holodeck malfunction and he gets trapped there and the recreation starts going off script, and the characters realize they are in a holodeck recreation.
Maybe, in the original timeline, the Orville was destroyed and this is a recreation of their final mission, but somehow the holodeck characters take control of the ship and uses its futury technology to go back in time and save the real Orville.
That might be a neat concept for an Orville episode, actually. It wouldn't quite fit in Discovery. Have Jonathan Frakes playing some character in the future of the Orville universe. He's in a TATV style recreation, only there's a holodeck malfunction and he gets trapped there and the recreation starts going off script, and the characters realize they are in a holodeck recreation.
Maybe, in the original timeline, the Orville was destroyed and this is a recreation of their final mission, but somehow the holodeck characters take control of the ship and uses its futury technology to go back in time and save the real Orville.
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I think that no matter how well executed, a large swath of viewers would have hated such an ending a priori. It would have created a lot of confusion as to the meaning of Benny Russell, a character that had very little screentime.
I don't doubt it - certainly if they wanted that ending there should have been more development of the idea in the interim before actually executing it. The way they ended the Benny Russell episode seemed to at least suggest that something deeper was going on though.
Benny Russell shakes a snow cone, inside is the space station Deep Space 9. The camera pans away to show Riker trapped in that mental instituion shaking a snow cone inside is Benny Russell shaking a snow cone, the camera pans away to show Kirk trapped in Janet Lester body in a pyshco ward shaking a snow cone inside is Picard shaking a snow cone, the camera pans away to show Q closing a book saying to the camera 'And they lived happily every after' and give a manic laugh.
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I enjoyed that episode of Buffy.
Oh, no...it'd have to be Discord!
You mean like the way Spock could telepathically sense the deaths of the Intrepid crew, as well as the presence of the V'ger entity way out in space?
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So ALL of Star Trek is fiction and Benny Russell is the creator of Star Trek and not Roddenberry?
I agree with Cutie McWhiskers pros and cons of it.
Benyy Russell's episode was fantastic. If you want, you could still say that all of DS9 was a fiction without that ending. But then, what about TNG and TOS being referenced. That means it's all fake. So no, not a good ending. But keeping it ambiguous and all of Star Trek was created by Benny Russell in our universe. That's kind of interesting actually.
That was such a good episode.
I think the "it was all a dream" was played out by the time DS9 ended. I think they did it on Dallas and on Newhart. Any other TV shows do it?
I agree with Cutie McWhiskers pros and cons of it.
Benyy Russell's episode was fantastic. If you want, you could still say that all of DS9 was a fiction without that ending. But then, what about TNG and TOS being referenced. That means it's all fake. So no, not a good ending. But keeping it ambiguous and all of Star Trek was created by Benny Russell in our universe. That's kind of interesting actually.
That was such a good episode.
I think the "it was all a dream" was played out by the time DS9 ended. I think they did it on Dallas and on Newhart. Any other TV shows do it?
I might have liked it, but only if the ending left it ambiguous who was "real" and who was the dream.
Like, for example, a final shot in which both look in the mirror and see the reflection of the other, but you can't tell for certain which image is supposed to be the real one and which one is the reflected one. (Not quite sure how to set that up, though).
Then again, perhaps that would have resembled the ending of the original episode too much.
Like, for example, a final shot in which both look in the mirror and see the reflection of the other, but you can't tell for certain which image is supposed to be the real one and which one is the reflected one. (Not quite sure how to set that up, though).
Then again, perhaps that would have resembled the ending of the original episode too much.
Garth: Hey Wayne! We should do the Benny Russell ending.
Wayne: Good call!
Wayne and Garth, doing cheap public access special effects: Doo doo doo doo. Doo doo doo doo.
Wayne: Good call!
Wayne and Garth, doing cheap public access special effects: Doo doo doo doo. Doo doo doo doo.
The notion that that Benny Russell ending would've lessened or cheapened the series is ludicrous to me. We do all understand this is all a piece of fiction right? So whether it comes from Benny Russell's mind or the DS9 writing team, none of it did actually happen.
The upside of it is, maybe it sets up a "reality" where there is a Benny Russell and there is a DS9, and they're connected in this metaphysical way where it's impossible to tell who is the creator and who is the created. Or maybe each of them are both the creator and the created. And I think that's a seriously interesting idea.
The upside of it is, maybe it sets up a "reality" where there is a Benny Russell and there is a DS9, and they're connected in this metaphysical way where it's impossible to tell who is the creator and who is the created. Or maybe each of them are both the creator and the created. And I think that's a seriously interesting idea.
Interesting idea but crappy drama. And bad for the bottom line. No novels, no documentary, no conventions... And what does it do to the rest of the Trek universe?
Which is why I dislike the Kelvin time-line. It’s a big f*ck you to Next Generation and made it impossible for them to do any more movies.
Which is why I dislike the Kelvin time-line. It’s a big f*ck you to Next Generation and made it impossible for them to do any more movies.
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