Spoilers The Batman (2022) - Review and Discussion Thread

[Crazy 4 Xmas Lights]

Truth is, my Batman of choice has always been the slightly unbalanced loner who hides in the dark and strikes from there, and considers "no killing" a guideline rather than an absolute. Think the Michael Keaton version. And that Batman works best without a Robin.

 

[ichab]

I wouldn't mind including Robin so long as he's not the typical annoying child that sidekicks tend to be.

 

[FPAlpha]

I feel like - as with his Golden Age comic counterpart - it'll take introducing Robin into his life to fully bring Bruce Wayne out as his own distinct character, as well as solidify his turn from 'Vengeance' towards a slightly lighter (and not at all campy) Caped Crusader. We already see him empathizing so hard with the mayor's son in this film, so him adopting Dick Grayson won't be that much of a stretch. There are still circuses in America, believe it or not, so the comic origin can be used. And yes, it does need to be a pre-teen Robin this time - the closer to the age Bruce was when his parents died, the better.

I think realistically this wouldn't work, at least not with the realism they're going for. A bachelor ( admittedly rich) would have it hard to adopt a child and i don't know if the audience would accept a child being trained to beat up criminals.

A late teenager would work much better, there has even been a discussion that one of the gang members from the beginning of the movie, the one who hesitated and clearly didn't want to to hurt someone, could be a candidate for the role if they indeed will introduce the character in the second movie.

 

[thribs]

A late teenager would work much better, there has even been a discussion that one of the gang members from the beginning of the movie, the one who hesitated and clearly didn't want to to hurt someone, could be a candidate for the role if they indeed will introduce the character in the second movie

Well that would be funny since the actor already plays Tim Drake in the Titans tv show.
I would get a 14/15 year old that Bruce adopts when his parents are killed, who after witnessing Bruce as Batman, decides to copy him and become… Batboy.

 

[Turd Ferguson]

I wouldn't mind seeing Jacob Tremblay as Robin (he already plays him in Harley Quinn )

 

[publiusr]

Interesting
https://screenrant.com/batman-animated-tribute-dancing-monster-truck-ninja/
https://screenrant.com/batman-actors-joker-dc-fan-art/
https://www.cbr.com/batman-day-alfred-twerk-batusi-monster-truck-ninja/

New figure
https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/dc-comics-batman-tactical-batsuit-version-hot-toys-911795

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This is a very good video about the cinematography of The Batman and it also talks about the clean look of Marvel movies.

16 mm was what Texas Chainsaw was shot on wasn’t it? Film grain is part of Grindhouse.

The 1979 Wichita Falls tornado looked worse than Moore 1999 because it was on Film.

Videotape is best for disease outbreaks and true crime. The TV show COPS looked it’s best pre-digital, pre LEDs…Sodium street lamps came from the King in Yellow…Mercury vapor lamps made the nights look still more hideous.

During the height of the Covid outbreak, someone took the ultra HD whatsit and filmed the empty streets.

While surreal…that was the wrong choice.

It should have been Super-8.

You show pre-Covid New York 35 mm, 24 FPS. That’s a noble frame rate.

The morgues should be shot video tape. Ratchet down to super-8…then only stills, daguerreotypes…in the post Covid era, New York must be shot all digital now…all false and motion smoothed and waiting for the other shoe to drop…all 4K and in your face…and uncertain.

Now there can still be a role for resolution, color and beauty: 65 mm was used in Death on the Nile…and blood is at its reddest when it shouts at you from the finest cotton…

 

[Mage]

Sofar, my favorite take on a live action Robin has been in the Snyder-verse, where we don't actually see him but are made aware that he once excisted and was indeed brutally taken down by the Joker, adding to the bitterness and resent that that version of Bruce Wayne carries with him.

I've never been a big Robin fan and always like the comics and movies without him more than the ones with.

I would like to point out that I still need to watch Titans, so perhaps my opinion on Robin as a character would change after that.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Well, this is new:

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[The Knappos]

Sofar, my favorite take on a live action Robin has been in the Snyder-verse, where we don't actually see him but are made aware that he once excisted and was indeed brutally taken down by the Joker, adding to the bitterness and resent that that version of Bruce Wayne carries with him.

I've never been a big Robin fan and always like the comics and movies without him more than the ones with.

I would like to point out that I still need to watch Titans, so perhaps my opinion on Robin as a character would change after that.

Titans is good, with the framing that there have been two Robins and the second has been in the role for a couple of years.

I think there are two, maybe three, bits in The Batman where you can see Wayne empathise with the son of the first victim which seeds a future potential Robin origin pretty well.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

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[thribs]

I was watching the new preview to the new Gotham Knights game and noticed how much Dick Grayson/Nightwing looked a lot like Robert Pattison and it made me think that he would have made a better Nightwing than Batman. Maybe under Batfleck.

 

[thribs]

I hear it’s on on blu ray now. If anyone has a 4K digital code they don’t want, I will gladly take it.

 

[theenglish]

Finally watched this. There were parts that I really liked a lot. I loved that we had a Batman who was a detective and had some kind of working relationship with the police. But then there were other moments--many of which are mentioned in the Honest Trailer--that just left me rolling my eyes. B- from me.

 

[Warped9]

Finally saw The Batman this evening…

Seriously—Whoa!!

Even adter reading a number of reviews and having some idea of some of what happens it still surprised me. This was freakin’ good!

I cannot call it a definitive version of Batman. Or my favourite version of Batman. I can’t call it either of those because Batman can be approached in different ways and I have enjoyed different takes. This is yet another take and it works. That said this is probably the most grounded version I’ve seen.

Overall I really liked this, but the heavy damaged persona is wearing thin. This Bruce Wayne is depressing as hell. The Michael Keaton or Christian Bale versions of Bruce Wayne were well rounded in comparison.

I enjoyed the Batman as detective element which we have seen little of in previous live-action films.

There really is a film noir feel to this in tandem with feeling as if I were watching a 1970s/‘80s crime drama. It had something of a retro feel to it even though it is a contemporary setting. The performances overall were excellent. And yet they still managed to integrate more familiar superhero action elements into it.

This really stands in contrast to the Marvel style of superhero films which often feel as if you’ve seen one or two you’ve seen them all.

I really enjoyed this and I highly recommend it.

 

[Warped9]

The palette of the film is very muted. It was much like a stylistic graphic novel done as live-action. It was very well done, but too often it could be dreary to look at.

I must say, like many modern films these past several years, the sound mixing could be crap. I want to hear what characters are saying and this incessant mumbling and whispering is annoying as hell.

I would say this impressed me, but it didn’t inspire me. The Nolan version of Batman were rife with energizing moments. This didn’t really have that—this Batman didn’t inspire me or give me much to cheer for.

And the more I think about it the more I simply don’t like this version of Bruce Wayne. I didn’t like his persona, I didn’t like the way he looked, and I was quickly tired of his nonstop mopey demeanour.

 

[Mage]

This didn’t really have that—this Batman didn’t inspire me or give me much to cheer for..

I felt that was the point. We see Batman in the dark and in shadows this entire movie. Doing horrible things. It ends with him carrying wounded in the broad day light. He was a symbol of terror, where at the end he's becoming a symbol of justice, not just vengeance

 

[thribs]

He steals Superman’s thing at the end. He’s a thief.

 

[Ovation]

He steals Superman’s thing at the end. He’s a thief.

Only if there is a Superman in this universe. I have my doubts.

 

[thribs]

Only if there is a Superman in this universe. I have my doubts.

Probably not. This universe is one of the dull Ones.

 

[Commander Troi]

We watched it again at home and still loved it.