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Spoilers The Bad Batch - Season 1 Discussion [cue A-Team theme music]

Back to the Bad Batch.

So, Crosshairs didn’t have a chip all along.
And he is now back with the Batch involuntarily.
Looks like he might be forced to stay with them as the Empire abandons him.
Will he try to regain the Empire’s favor and betray them at every corner?
Will he reluctantly turn to the good side?
Tune back in next week, same batch time, same batch channel!
 
It never ceases to amaze me how the Batch parks without locking their shuttle. I mean, yeah, perhaps it's usually a super-secret parking lot which no baddie will find (but they do) and they have booby traps inside (except they don't). But here, they are gonna have giant waves crashing all the way into the aft gunner's station and sweeping away poor Gonky...

Or did that platform have some sort of an anti-wave forcefield in place? A wave-dampening mechanism? I think the shuttle is going to get damp enough even without mechanisms - Omega got her hair all wet, after all, and surely it wasn't exclusively from tears?

In any case, I wouldn't be surprised to see our heroes head back to their escape vehicle, only to find it gone and a pair of aiwhas roosting in its place.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Wow Tech called them Venators. I don’t think they ever actually used the class name in any episode of Clone Wars. It was always just cruiser, or republic cruiser.
 
The Kaminoans they took are probably the people who trained the Cloners we see in Mando (Dr. Pershing). Which in turn is probably connected to Palpatine’s cloning efforts revealed in TROS. Pershing’s uniform in Mando had the Kaminoans cloning symbol on it.

It’s all connected.
 
I expected to see some nonessential personnel still roaming around or secured in a locked room. Otherwise, why specify "essential" personnel?

I actually dislike the "you may fire when ready" callback. Feels forced.
 
kirk55555 said:
Of course the shit is going to stick around. Cheaper to continue a shitty show that they're already set up to produce then to make a good show. Plus,I think with CG shows they build CG assets and so want to reuse them, but I'm not very well versed in any kind of animation so I'm not 100% sure abut that, its just what I've heard before about CG cartoons but would help justify wanting to produce more of the same thing.

I'm half convinced that this whole show only exists because Dave Filoni, who is a rabid Lucas sycophant, is still angry that people made Lucas sad by hating Jar Jar and Little Anakin, so he's made a whole show about a character that is just Jar Jar and Anakin combined in little girl form (but without the Force...for now).
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Wow. It's people like this that give the Star Wars fandom such a terrible name.
 
Really great episode, and what a cliffhanger to end on. This'll feel like a long 7 days till the next one...

The reveal about Crosshair and his "rescue" by the Batch caught me off guard, but it makes sense to get him back in the fold within a season, then season 2 can be centred around another storyline.

Awesome show, even if I occasionally roll my eyes at the cameo of the week or the repetitive SW animation storyline: go to planet, rescue someone/steal something, escape planet.
 
I really appreciate how the episode took a moment to reflect on the emptiness of the Kamino facilities as an end of an era. Even if it hasn't been the home for the Bad Batch and Omega for awhile, it's a place we got to know fairly well over the years in The Clone Wars and now it's gone.

Not only am I not surprised Crosshair didn't have an inhibitor chip this whole time, I'm relieved he didn't. While it'll make things more difficult for Hunter and the rest to reconcile with who Crosshair has become, the absence of the chip gives Crosshair agency in his decisions and makes his change that more tragic. Even if Hunter is able to convince Crosshair that the Empire left him to die, I don't expect Crosshair to waver on his positions about the Empire and "the bigger picture" that he alluded to. I'm very curious to see how things will play out in the season finale and what the future holds for all of them for the next season.

Lastly, it was great to see AZI-3 return and has joined the crew! I always liked that little guy.
 
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Love the musical cues from AOTC. The episode gave a lot of weight to everything that was going on and this is just season 1. Where are they going to take the Empire in season 2,that's the stuff that really grabs my attention.

I'm assuming season 2 is already way ahead in production since it takes about 2 years to get everything done.
 
The showdown between Hunter and Crosshair during the fight with the training droids had some genuine emotional weight to it. Not unlike the final duel between Ob-Wan and Anakin in ROTS or when Ahsoka and Vader had their showdown in Rebels. The destruction of the Kamino cloning facilities at the end was definitely a Moment that I felt. It really enhanced the sequence showing all the various areas abandoned just before the exploding happened.
Shawnster said:
I expected to see some nonessential personnel still roaming around or secured in a locked room. Otherwise, why specify "essential" personnel?
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It was meant to be a reference to the fact the Batch, more specifically Crosshair were still there.
 
Hmm. This is an interesting development. If we take Crosshair at his word, then he had his chip removed. Hunter has the right question, when?

Unless the Kaminoans were lying to Tarkin, which we can't rule out given the relationship between the two, we know for a fact that Crosshair HAD a chip in the premiere. And that it was modified to enhance it's effect. It would need to have been removed since then.

I think there are two likely possibilities here. 1) At some point since the first episode, quite possibly when Crosshair was wounded on Bracca, the chip was removed. Everything he's done since has been all him, but still loyal to the idea of the Empire. This is the one I'm hoping for, because it makes Crosshair an interesting quandary for the rest of the Batch. Or, 2) Crosshair only BELIEVES his chip was removed. Probably a lie told to him by the Kaminoans or Tarkin/Rampart. In which case realizing that he still has the chip and is in fact being 66'd offers a chance for him to see the true face of the Empire and reject it. I think this one is less likely. It opens the door to the happy reunion, but it leaves Crosshair in a weird spot growth-wise.

I feel like the when matters, as does the why. What led Crosshair to take the chip out? Was it even his choice? I can totally see Lama Su and Nala Se going behind Rampart's back and "freeing" Crosshair if they thought they could get some benefit out of it. I just don't see what the benefit might be that would lead them down that path.

Another interesting point that may not be a thing, but has my mind slowly grinding into motion: Omega said she was there when the Batch's mutations were being enhanced. That leads me to believe that the Batch weren't always the clones we know today, but started as more normal "defective" clones. So maybe Wrecker wasn't always so big, or Tech so smart. There is an alternative, namely that Omega is older than the boys, but even with trooper clones grown at x2 speed I'm not sure she's old enough to actually remember their creation. Though I suppose that could open the possibility that they aren't Jango clones in the conventional sense, but rather Omega clones. Would be an interesting way to tie her to them more directly, though no really necessary given the bond forming between them. Things to think about that will probably never come up again!
 
Timelord Victorious said:
He secretly enjoys it. He just has a reputation to uphold/
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The Nth Doctor said:
Hmmm...I wonder if he secretly loves a lot of the stuff he says he hates (and yet keeps watching). Gotta keep that grumpy, angry reputation! :lol:
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I haven't watched The Bad Batch since episode 6, when they have to get the tactical droid and those shitty sisters from the last season of TCW appeared. Anything after that is just me reading summaries to know that there is no reason to watch any more of the episodes.

lightspeedbear said:
Wow. It's people like this that give the Star Wars fandom such a terrible name.
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Oh yeah, me, someone who (for example) loves TFA and TLJ, likes Rise of Skywalker more then seemingly 90% of people (its very flawed and has some huge issues but I still like it), thinks Rose got the shaft in Episode 9 and considers Rey his favorite Sequel Trilogy character is what is wrong with the Star Wars fandom. Yep, that's me, one of those Star Wars haters :rommie: I also loved Rogue One, currently love The Mandalorian, enjoy several of the newer comic series and am very much looking forward to all of the live action shows coming out (and that Visionaries show looks like it will be very good, too).

But, since I think a shitty little kids cartoon set in the SW universe is bad, I'm one of those Star Wars haters :rolleyes: You must never interact with the actual terrible Star Wars fans, and I envy you for that. The actual terrible SW fans, with their whining about "Mary Sues", Rian Johnson hating, etc are the people who, to me, give SW a bad name.

At the end of the day I'm a fan who considers most of the new Star Wars stuff to be good to great when it comes to Film/TV, I just have (sometimes huge) problems with the Star Wars animation and book divisions.
 
I think the Kaminoians was lying to Tarkin. The premiere also implied they returned to Kamino regularly after missions, meaning the Kaminoians may have been doing things to him (and others) routinely.
 
I almost panicked for a moment at the end, because I thought this was the last episode of the season. :eek: Then I looked at the episode description and noticed that it was part 1 of 2.

And I repeat my observation from before that the "skip intro" button is worthless. It does not appear at the beginning during the Lucasfilm or Disney logos. It still does not appear during the flashy droid and mask visuals. It does not even appear when the "Star Wars" logo appears. It finally appears when the "Bad Batch" title shows up, and by then it's too late! :angryrazz:

Kor
 
kirk55555 said:
Oh yeah, me, someone who (for example) loves TFA and TLJ, likes Rise of Skywalker more then seemingly 90% of people (its very flawed and has some huge issues but I still like it), thinks Rose got the shaft in Episode 9 and considers Rey his favorite Sequel Trilogy character is what is wrong with the Star Wars fandom. Yep, that's me, one of those Star Wars haters :rommie: I also loved Rogue One, currently love The Mandalorian, enjoy several of the newer comic series and am very much looking forward to all of the live action shows coming out (and that Visionaries show looks like it will be very good, too).

But, since I think a shitty little kids cartoon set in the SW universe is bad, I'm one of those Star Wars haters :rolleyes: You must never interact with the actual terrible Star Wars fans, and I envy you for that. The actual terrible SW fans, with their whining about "Mary Sues", Rian Johnson hating, etc are the people who, to me, give SW a bad name.

At the end of the day I'm a fan who considers most of the new Star Wars stuff to be good to great when it comes to Film/TV, I just have (sometimes huge) problems with the Star Wars animation and book divisions.
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Fair enough. I sincerely apologise and retract what I said about you. It was said in ignorance.

It's a shame the animation side of Star Wars doesn't vibe with you.
 
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