With T'Pau as highly ranked as she is and with Sarek and Spock in her clan, I think there's no question that if Vulcan has nobility, they'd be counted among it.
Or maybe it's like "Jewish princess"?
Or this maybe.
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With T'Pau as highly ranked as she is and with Sarek and Spock in her clan, I think there's no question that if Vulcan has nobility, they'd be counted among it.
Or this maybe.
Is this good?
Though there is a lot about Vulcan they don't talk about. like the fact that they generally kept the whole they get horny every 7 years and will totally murder you if it isn't dealt with thing under raps.
I believe someone once noticed that the TOS Enterprise could have completed Voyager's 70 year trip home in about a month or maybe less based on TOS speeds.
Meh, Star Trek pretty much ignores science if its in the service of the story.
Then Enterprise came out and mentioned their predecessor weapon's yield could be adjusted to take a spec out on a shuttle without scratching the shuttle, so not that far fetched.
Wasn't that describing the phase cannons? Or am I remembering wrong?
well, I guess we all have our different rationales for what we'll accept and what we won't.
Well we are talking about a movie sequel to a show where flying into a energy field can give you god like powers, the characters met a Greek god, powerful alien children screw around with people until their parents tell them to stop picking on lesser races, time travel is an easy thing, sentient pancake monsters can drive you mad with pain, and a main character can have his brain surgically removed and then put back in, and then there was the time in TAS where they went to a universe that caused everyone to age in reverse.
So really TFF just comes off as another TOS going hooky episode only with a larger budget.
can't argue with that, especially since I've watched FF as many times as I've watched most other episodes.
A small item that I found particularly gratifying to see was in the part addressing the events of TSFS. It was nice to see that Chekov should be grieving not just Spock, but what happened to the Reliant and its crew. Pretty sure I've never seen that acknowledged anywhere else in Treklit. Overall I really like the book, mainly due to the small touches like that one.
That's so great you noticed that! Thank you! It was those touches that are throughout the book when I'm going over familiar ground that I'm most proud of.
You might be interested in the TOS Captain's Table book, "War Dragons," which partially takes place just after Sulu gets command of the Excelsior and taps Chekov as his first officer. There's a subplot that Chekov can't quite hack it since he still blames himself for the death of the Reliant's crew (minor continuity error in the book: It asserts the crew all died rather than being rescued from Ceti Alpha V. Which I guess is possible, since we never actually saw them marooned or rescued).
Right. Most books and whatnot assume Terrell was telling the truth about the crew being marooned (likely, since Kirk wouldn't have been assuming they were safely awaiting rescue if Chekov had told them that was a lie after his eel left), and that they were all still alive when the Enterprise (or whoever) swung around to pick them up, but you could work your way around that if you wanted to, a la Trip's resurrection. It's been too long since I read "War Dragons" to remember if it said anything specific about why the Reliant crew was all dead in a way that explicitly contradicted the movie, but I do remember that they were and Chekov kept choking because of it.
Yeah... Kirk's final log entry says, "Starship Enterprise departing for Ceti Alpha Five to pick up the crew of the U.S.S. Reliant. All is well." That doesn't sound like the sort of thing he'd say if their fate were uncertain or if he had reason to believe there were heavy casualties. As far as we know, the only Reliant fatality was Captain Terrell. So War Dragons saying the entire crew was dead was strange.
My book just has Chekov mourning Spock and Terrell, and the reliant itself, two important deaths and the loss of your ship seemed like plenty.
The movie novelization also had the Reliant engineering crew dying in the Mutara Nebula battle (Khan having "retained" their "services" via eel, while marooning the rest of the crew). Greg Cox retained this backstory in his third Khan novel, from what I remember.
Huh. That seems to needlessly complicate something that was relatively simple: the Reliant's crew marooned and Khan's people running the ship. That sounds less like "fixing a plot hole" than the author just indulging their own preference.
I dunno, I guess I just never thought, "Oh well, obviously the Reliant people must've been still working in the engine room under mind control." If Khan's people were able to man bridge stations, I have no problem believing that they could also figure out engineering.
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