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Spoilers THE ARK (2023)

Guy Gardener said:
This is a guess.

They can't dock safely with an Ark that is going full speed.
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Eh.... I can't see how that would be true.

Guy Gardener said:
In range but still years away.

They had a fast as light engine.
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They didn't.... or maybe they did? I don't know. This show is all over the place. I seem to remember that they implied early on they did. But then after Ark 3 showed up it's stated they didn't. So... ok. But anyway, if the total travel time from Earth to Promixa B is 4 light years, then you can't consider something 1 light year away as "relatively close." That's 1/4 of the entire trip. You know, the trip that was so long that they had to go into cyro for.
 
It suggested at points they could get close to light speed, but not achieve it, I think.
 
Parallaxis said:
Eh.... I can't see how that would be true.


They didn't.... or maybe they did? I don't know. This show is all over the place. I seem to remember that they implied early on they did. But then after Ark 3 showed up it's stated they didn't. So... ok. But anyway, if the total travel time from Earth to Promixa B is 4 light years, then you can't consider something 1 light year away as "relatively close." That's 1/4 of the entire trip. You know, the trip that was so long that they had to go into cyro for.
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A hobo can jump onto a slow moving train without losing a hand.

Once that train has reached it's cruising speed, 5 times faster than it was going when the last hobo jumped into a empty boxcar safely, the next hobo is going to have his arm pulled right out of it's socket if he starts grabbing at the bullet train.

I found a transcript of the pilot where they said...

Initiate faster
than light travel.
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https://subslikescript.com/series/The_Ark-17371078/season-1/episode-1-Episode_11

Oh!

It's an advertisement... "This season on the Ark".

;)
 
Rich Watson said:
https://deadline.com/2023/04/the-ark-renewed-season-2-syfy-1235323471/

Didn't see that coming. Turns out you don't need to spend huge sums of money to make a successful genre show.
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THE OUTPOST ran for years, also filmed in Serbia by the same folks for roughly the same budgets, and with at least one of the same actors. And the show sells overseas as well. It's debuting in the UK soon, and was just sold into Spain last week or so. And, judging from its fan pages on FB, THE ARK is building a following.

Both this show and THE OUTPOST remind me of the sort of fun syndicated SFF adventure shows we enjoyed back in the nineties. In a good way. They're a bit of nostalgic throwback to an earlier era of SFF tv.

(Full disclosure: I've written four books for Electric Entertainment and always found them a pleasure to work with. Who knows? Maybe there will be some THE ARK tie-novels down the road.)
 
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Parallaxis said:
Damn. That show lasted 4 years?! I thought it was like a 6 episode failure on the CW. Shows how much I've tuned out network TV.
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It was basically a summer-replacement series that showed up on CW every summer before the fall season debuted, providing some original content while the CW's shows were in hiatus. Or so I recall.
 
arch101 said:
The Starlost is still over at YT. Been watching it again lately…
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Same. Been in the mood for some lo-fi 70's sci-fi that I can watch when I go to bed. Remember seeing some in the late 70's, but don't recall it being 'live' instead of film. Enjoying it well enough, but still only in ep. 2 as I fall asleep watching.
 
Some random notes...finally got around to commenting... so a mish mash of responses to previous things posted here....

So, here on TrekBBS, where many of us started with TOS.... we're really gonna be serious about the science, and consistency, of the show?

Not just the finding of planets on the way to the nearest habitable planet... but last week had nearly-instant growing spiders, as well as the taking of an untested cure to the story's disease.... though i give them props for acknowledging that such was a bad idea, as well as avoiding the cliche of the scientist/doctor testing on themself first. (And in fact,on a person who was quite willing to try it, and needed it, though not immiediately)

I can't believe The Ark is getting better ratings than the CW shows.... but i guess Peacock is a real streaming service. Does it air live across America? If so, then i guess kids in California & Hawaii might be catching it before bedtime...

Also, I wonder if the extensive use of Serbian cast & crew helps the budget, with at least acouple main characters Serbian...as well as what, nearly all of the directors???

Has anyone noticed if the direction seems as good as Hollywood? And if so, are they much cheaper than American directors?

I am surprised that they killed off Helena... they seemed to set her up as a long term antagonist

i really like the cast and how they interact.... even Samantha Glassner, daughter of show producer JOnathan Glassner, does a good job for her role.

I will be interested in the finale... will it feel like a series finale (since they just announced renewal), Or did they film alternate endings?

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How many disasters can one crew handle per episode, every season? I'm out of breath at every commercial break. It's been a pretty wild ride, and I'm glad the season didn't end on a hard cliffhanger, in case it got cancelled. That would've been an acceptable way to leave off if it had been.
What the heck can they do for a second season? Another evil Ark? Alternate reality Ark? Time travelling Ark? :whistle:
 
Ugh. I'm glad you guys enjoyed the finale. I was rolling my eyes so hard that my avatar was doing circles. The whole "we can be friends now" subplot was just so cringe. And did all the writers forget that Maddox murdered Felix's husband? I mean, Felix seems to have forgot too, so I guess it's ok.
 
Kind of an interesting finale, though I do agree some plot elements seem a bit rushed. Possibly because it's not yet known if there will be another season.
 
Christopher said:
I never expect originality from Dean Devlin.
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A little strange, considering Devlin's complaints about the difficulty of getting original, non-franchise property greenlighted. (Apparently, an executive once told him that they won't accept Independence Day today unless it was called War Of The Worlds!)
 
Bornin1980something said:
A little strange, considering Devlin's complaints about the difficulty of getting original, non-franchise property greenlighted. (Apparently, an executive once told him that they won't accept Independence Day today unless it was called War Of The Worlds!)
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That's just titles and trademarks. It's the surface level. I'm talking about real originality, the kind that actually makes a difference, the substance of the story and ideas. Stargate, the movie Devlin wrote, was an "original" property in the sense that it wasn't an adaptation, but it was completely derivative and hackneyed in execution, a rehash of "ancient astronaut" tropes that had been trendy in the 1960s-70s. It had one good idea that had endless potential, a gate to anywhere in the universe, and the only thing it could think of to do with it was to rehash Ancient Egyptian cliches from generations of earlier movies. The brand may have been original, but the story was absolutely not.

Contrast that with, say, the 2000s Battlestar Galactica, which was a remake, but which reinvented the concept in a totally fresh and innovative way. Or Barbie, which is an adaptation of a generations-old piece of intellectual property but uses it to tell a story in daring and unexpected ways (or so I'm told, not having seen it yet). Originality is in the execution, not the brand name.
 
Christopher said:
Originality is in the execution, not the brand name.
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Also in how it is receieved.

If someone hadn't read/seen previous "aliens helping Egyptians" stuff before, it sure would feel original.

You could argue that the Matrix wasn't original... but it sure felt fresh to a lot of people to make it a now classic.


But speaking of the Ark... when could season 2 come out (assuming we want to stay on topic)
 
Morpheus 02 said:
But speaking of the Ark... when could season 2 come out (assuming we want to stay on topic)
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Could be a while, the renewal was only announced in April, a few weeks before the writers strike started. And the show does American writers, so I don't imagine much was written before the strike started.
 
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