The Amazing Race - 11/29/2009 - (Live Commentary/Discussion)
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I don't think Brian & Ericka should win based on the fact they have raced poorly throughout the season (and I don't like bad teams who just have one great leg be the winner).
Meghan & Cheyne they have won the most legs (either 6 or 7 by the end of this season. But Two of those weren't from their own performance.
The first leg, which is the only leg in the shows history to completely bunch the teams up for one and only one task and then having another person decide who gets to proceed first? Stupid. Dan for example was fastest at performing that actual task, yet due to the racers having no impact on when you got to perform the task they were next to last. Worst designed leg in the history of the show. The next was a leg after they won the Fast Forward. And in the shows history you have always had some form of equalizer after a Fast Forward leg (always) this didn't. In fact it was one of only 4 legs in the shows history that didn't feature any form of bunching at all. When you take departure times for that leg and match it to when teams checked in they actually performed the days tasks 4th fastest (out of 7 teams, not good), but with a lead of over two hours it didn't matter.
But rant over, even getting rid of those two legs. They have consistently been the most focused, and performed well.
Sam & Dan have done well on most legs but tend to get distracted on either the Trotters or themselves.
So yeah I have to say it should be Meghan & Cheyne.
With my luck Brian & Ericka will win.
Meghan & Cheyne they have won the most legs (either 6 or 7 by the end of this season. But Two of those weren't from their own performance.
The first leg, which is the only leg in the shows history to completely bunch the teams up for one and only one task and then having another person decide who gets to proceed first? Stupid. Dan for example was fastest at performing that actual task, yet due to the racers having no impact on when you got to perform the task they were next to last. Worst designed leg in the history of the show. The next was a leg after they won the Fast Forward. And in the shows history you have always had some form of equalizer after a Fast Forward leg (always) this didn't. In fact it was one of only 4 legs in the shows history that didn't feature any form of bunching at all. When you take departure times for that leg and match it to when teams checked in they actually performed the days tasks 4th fastest (out of 7 teams, not good), but with a lead of over two hours it didn't matter.
But rant over, even getting rid of those two legs. They have consistently been the most focused, and performed well.
Sam & Dan have done well on most legs but tend to get distracted on either the Trotters or themselves.
So yeah I have to say it should be Meghan & Cheyne.
With my luck Brian & Ericka will win.
Question if you were Dan, would you have given Big Easy the answer even though you did agree to work with him?
Myself on a normal leg, yeah I would have (especially on a task at the start of the leg). But at this stage (or even last weeks episode), I wouldn't have. Hell I wouldn't have even gave him the first letter.
Myself on a normal leg, yeah I would have (especially on a task at the start of the leg). But at this stage (or even last weeks episode), I wouldn't have. Hell I wouldn't have even gave him the first letter.
I wouldn't have teamed up if my intentions were to not give it to him anyway. Honestly, at that stage, I would not trust teaming up with anyone, knowing they may screw me to one up me.
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Well, I MAY team up with someone if throughout the race we had a history of being real nice and helpful to each other, and I knew they were trustworthy, then if it benefited both of us (knowing there was still a team behind us) it would be ok, we could work together to shoot forward and make sure the last team stays in last place.
1 - Ericka was the very definition of "ugly American" during the beer run.
2 - The speed bumps this season are jokes. The previous one had the team spend five minutes in a sauna. This one had them drink an alcoholic beverage. Oh, my. And they pay people to think these challenges up?
3 - The telephone challenge was more like it. For those who could tune it out and remember things, it would be pretty easy. For others, that would be a nightmare. I was starting to get annoyed, and I'm not even playing the game. I have the option of muting the sound, but they didn't. I can see how the teams might crack, go insane, and start killing people.
4 - There was remarkably little "Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne" in this episode. Did they finally give Meghan her medication?
5 - I want to root for Sam and Dan, but they aren't much better than Boston Rob, and I couldn't stand his smug attitude. And these two brothers share it, how superior they think they are.
So, at this point, the question might be which team is the least obnoxious? I'm not really sure.
Maybe Brian. He has the patience of a saint. Or Cheyne. But their partners are both obnoxious, and both Sam & Dan are, so that rules them out. Oh, I'm not sure who I want to win.
2 - The speed bumps this season are jokes. The previous one had the team spend five minutes in a sauna. This one had them drink an alcoholic beverage. Oh, my. And they pay people to think these challenges up?
3 - The telephone challenge was more like it. For those who could tune it out and remember things, it would be pretty easy. For others, that would be a nightmare. I was starting to get annoyed, and I'm not even playing the game. I have the option of muting the sound, but they didn't. I can see how the teams might crack, go insane, and start killing people.
4 - There was remarkably little "Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne, Cheyne" in this episode. Did they finally give Meghan her medication?
5 - I want to root for Sam and Dan, but they aren't much better than Boston Rob, and I couldn't stand his smug attitude. And these two brothers share it, how superior they think they are.
So, at this point, the question might be which team is the least obnoxious? I'm not really sure.
Maybe Brian. He has the patience of a saint. Or Cheyne. But their partners are both obnoxious, and both Sam & Dan are, so that rules them out. Oh, I'm not sure who I want to win.
How are Sam & Dan smug? They certainly have problems handling stress (he,he) but smug?
They have been fairly accurate in judging themselves and the other teams so far, based on the performance of those teams.
They wanted Flight Time & Big Easy out for the simple reason that team was physically the team to beat, the team that was strongest, and fastest. Accurate. And the show has a longer history of foot races being important on the final leg, then challenges.
They think that overall Meghan & cheyne are the biggest threats. Accurate.
Out of 11 legs Brian & Ericka have the worst record, not only not winning leg, but not even doing that well.
They state they have beat Meghan & Cheyne twice (actually thats the number of legs they won, they have actually finished the 3 legs in better position.
As for saying they can win, remember all teams are actually told to say this (all teams are told by production to say how they are going to be the team that wins). Notice you never hear a team say, that we are slow and lazy and will be lucky to drag our butts even to the end of one leg, let alone make the finish. It doesn't happen.
As for Cheyne, unlike Brian (Who I still haven't seen anything really negative at all about from him), Cheyne has been rude to Meghan, refused to talk to her, dismissed her and ignored her. It doesn't happen often but it does happen.
We are going to see some serious separate times when teams leave the Pit Stop, (though based on the last few seasons) flight options back to the US will be very specific (since All Stars teams have actually been limited to one flight option, even when not stated, per racers). So that all teams should be equalized and like the more recent seasons expect all tasks to be in or near the destination city (the only real change since CBS cut the episode order and production budget that I actually think should have always been there).
The speedbumps are lame, but they are designed to be cheap (again budget cuts) and to take up between 15-30 minutes time only.
I generally wish they had kept the 30 minute penalty at the Pit Stop (unless you manage first then no penalty) as it was an equal amount of time (and during the seasons it was used, there was technically enough time separating the teams that even if you finished 2nd you could still survive). But the main reason I like it with its budget getting cut in its 12 season, that form of punishment added no additional cost. So that they could spend the money on the aspects of the leg that everyone had to complete.
I do agree the both the roadblock and both detours seemed pretty good, and it was nice to see a few general route markers teams had to go to and a general task. I miss those a lot.
They have been fairly accurate in judging themselves and the other teams so far, based on the performance of those teams.
They wanted Flight Time & Big Easy out for the simple reason that team was physically the team to beat, the team that was strongest, and fastest. Accurate. And the show has a longer history of foot races being important on the final leg, then challenges.
They think that overall Meghan & cheyne are the biggest threats. Accurate.
Out of 11 legs Brian & Ericka have the worst record, not only not winning leg, but not even doing that well.
They state they have beat Meghan & Cheyne twice (actually thats the number of legs they won, they have actually finished the 3 legs in better position.
As for saying they can win, remember all teams are actually told to say this (all teams are told by production to say how they are going to be the team that wins). Notice you never hear a team say, that we are slow and lazy and will be lucky to drag our butts even to the end of one leg, let alone make the finish. It doesn't happen.
As for Cheyne, unlike Brian (Who I still haven't seen anything really negative at all about from him), Cheyne has been rude to Meghan, refused to talk to her, dismissed her and ignored her. It doesn't happen often but it does happen.
We are going to see some serious separate times when teams leave the Pit Stop, (though based on the last few seasons) flight options back to the US will be very specific (since All Stars teams have actually been limited to one flight option, even when not stated, per racers). So that all teams should be equalized and like the more recent seasons expect all tasks to be in or near the destination city (the only real change since CBS cut the episode order and production budget that I actually think should have always been there).
The speedbumps are lame, but they are designed to be cheap (again budget cuts) and to take up between 15-30 minutes time only.
I generally wish they had kept the 30 minute penalty at the Pit Stop (unless you manage first then no penalty) as it was an equal amount of time (and during the seasons it was used, there was technically enough time separating the teams that even if you finished 2nd you could still survive). But the main reason I like it with its budget getting cut in its 12 season, that form of punishment added no additional cost. So that they could spend the money on the aspects of the leg that everyone had to complete.
I do agree the both the roadblock and both detours seemed pretty good, and it was nice to see a few general route markers teams had to go to and a general task. I miss those a lot.
We also haven't seen much this season of the Ugly AMerican, and this was the episode. THough I can understand them being upset (Heck even Brian was a little pissed and added the "Dont you have jobs" to the locals), but this wasn't like teams getting fondled in India so she could have handled it nicer.
I thought it was pretty crappy of Dan, and surprised that he did it. But from the standpoint of being in a race? It makes a lot of sense, and was extremely effective.
That said, if I were there and Dan did that to me, I would not have trusted that the word started with an F. In fact I probably would have convinced myself that it didn't.
I was most disappointed that Phil described absinthe and didn't mention the psychoactive properties.
Team gay sucks. Sorry to see the 'trotters go... even worse to see the guy fail miserably to come up with my last name 
I don't get why the Rabbis signed off on the golem which had its arm broken... what a half-assed inspection.
I don't really like any of the final three. I think the blonde weirdos in first place are my choice to win, then team interracial, and finally team gay.
I don't get why the Rabbis signed off on the golem which had its arm broken... what a half-assed inspection.
I don't really like any of the final three. I think the blonde weirdos in first place are my choice to win, then team interracial, and finally team gay.
The Trotters and the Dad and Son team that got booted before were the only two teams I found worth watching.
I find the members of the last three teams to be generally unpleasant people. Brian is the only person who seems like an okay guy so I guess I hope they win.
I find the members of the last three teams to be generally unpleasant people. Brian is the only person who seems like an okay guy so I guess I hope they win.
Man, I wonder if you shouldn't just take the penalty much earlier if you know another team is substantially behind. The Trotters might have made it.
Especially knowing the penalty was four hours. I liked the Trotters, but after that idiotic move, they deserved to be gone.
I was disappointed when they okayed that- I was hoping Sam and Dan would have to start over. I figured they'd switch to the beer challenge and really have a meltdown.
I'm rooting for Meghan and Cheyne- they're the least objectionable team left. I can't stand the brothers and although Brian's okay, Erika is annoying as hell.
They talked about used the clay to cover the crack, if so then they wouldn't have seen the damage. I couldn't see it when I look at it when they were turning it in. SO its possible that they did indeed cover it up (Sam mentions that is what they are going to do).
MEghan & Cheyne have done some "what others might call dirty plays" they have told teams they would work with them or help them and not done so. Once with the Globetrotters once with Brian & Ericka.
Which is the equal to what Dan jus did (well Dan in fact did give a little help, which is slightly better). And they do fight, but there is much more low key then Dan & Sam.
Really none of the teams are innocent, all of them have some bad behavior be it with other teams, within their own team or too locals. Hell even Brian insulted locals this leg.
Which is the equal to what Dan jus did (well Dan in fact did give a little help, which is slightly better). And they do fight, but there is much more low key then Dan & Sam.
Really none of the teams are innocent, all of them have some bad behavior be it with other teams, within their own team or too locals. Hell even Brian insulted locals this leg.
I think Cheyne is just as bad if not worse than Erika. My favourite move by him was when he took the weak option and didn't step up to do the needle in the hay challenge. It would have been different if Meghan immediately stepped up and said she'd do with but when she asked him if he would do it he just went silent and stared at his shoes.
This is a race though and at times you have to be ruthless, the problem is it often makes you look like a jerk. It isn't like survivor where it actually does matter what other people think of you at the end.
Am I the only one rooting for Brian and Ericka? They do seem to love each other, and i like that. They also treat each other respectfully, even though she tends to get easily irritated.
Megan doesn't seem to enjoy the race at all, she is just too nervous and anxious. Cheyne is just plain stupid.
I originally liked the gay brothers, but their bickering just got old. And used dirty moves to get ahead (mainly the cab stealing is what i'm against, not helping the GT in the second to last leg is understandable)
Megan doesn't seem to enjoy the race at all, she is just too nervous and anxious. Cheyne is just plain stupid.
I originally liked the gay brothers, but their bickering just got old. And used dirty moves to get ahead (mainly the cab stealing is what i'm against, not helping the GT in the second to last leg is understandable)
I don't want "Cheyne" to win for a number of reasons. The top two:
1. His hair
2. The incredibly pretentious way he spells his name.
--Ted
1. His hair
2. The incredibly pretentious way he spells his name.
--Ted
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