The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version IV

[KRAD]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

We've been covering Slings and Arrows on Literary Treks. It's been an interesting series so far.

Well, hey, if you ever want to talk to the guy who conceived and edited the miniseries, let me know....

 

[Enterpriserules]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

We've been covering Slings and Arrows on Literary Treks. It's been an interesting series so far.

Well, hey, if you ever want to talk to the guy who conceived and edited the miniseries, let me know....

On the 25th, we are covering the last book! Wanna be on?

 

[chrinFinity]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

I've been meaning to email you guys... The Light Fantastic directly spoils major plot developments of The Fall, and I feel like your chart doesn't indicate clearly enough that The Fall should be read first.

Should be a solid black arrow rather than a dotted green one.

 

[chrinFinity]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

In addition, while your flow-chart style layout is clear and unassailable, I must regrettably inform you that your colour code choices for the various series are completely indecipherable to me as a person suffering protanopia, a common form of colour blindness.

For the sake of accessibility you may wish to consider using more garish colour coding or different icons.

I do, however, deeply appreciate the work you've put into this resource, I have referred to it many times.

 

[DimesDan]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

I've been meaning to email you guys... The Light Fantastic directly spoils major plot developments of The Fall, and I feel like your chart doesn't indicate clearly enough that The Fall should be read first.

Should be a solid black arrow rather than a dotted green one.

Weren't they out several months apart?

For the sake of accessibility you may wish to consider using more garish colour coding or different icons.

What? Surely you're aware, the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. So just because you're colour blind (I didn't think women could be) shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.

I do, however, deeply appreciate the work you've put into this resource, I have referred to it many times.

As do I, although why aren't any Trek fonts used? That's my main question and one I think I brought up lats year when the last version of this was revealed.

 

[Paper Moon]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

I've been meaning to email you guys... The Light Fantastic directly spoils major plot developments of The Fall, and I feel like your chart doesn't indicate clearly enough that The Fall should be read first.

Should be a solid black arrow rather than a dotted green one.

Weren't they out several months apart?

Yes, but I don't think this chart really considers factors like that. I agree that there are major spoilers, and could therefore warrant a solid line. On the other hand, I don't think you really need to read The Fall before The Light Fantastic to get much of the story, so that's an argument against the solid line.

For the sake of accessibility you may wish to consider using more garish colour coding or different icons.

What? Surely you're aware, the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. So just because you're colour blind (I didn't think women could be) shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.

You may be joking, but: Various forms of color-blindness affect about one in ten people. Yes, it is more common in men, but hardly unheard of among women.

Designers are very accustomed to choosing colors that will be accessible to everyone, including the colorblind. There are actually filters available within Photoshop (and various places for free online) that show you what colors will be indistinguishable in the varying types of colorblindness. It's not too difficult to choose workable colors, and you don't even need to choose garish ones to make it work.

Of course, this could also be an opportunity to revamp the color-coding system slightly– I would love for there to be a little more variety in shapes. Maybe circles for the TV series, squares for the Lit series, and triangles for the various threads (Cardassians, Federation President, Mirror Universe, that kind of thing)? There are, right now, just too many colors for me to keep track of (and my color vision is fine).

 

[KRAD]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

Honestly, I second the notion of using different shapes instead of different colors in circles, not just out of deference to chrinFinity and other color-blind folks, but also in deference to the fact that the circles are really small and not always easy to distinguish.

Just a thought.

 

[20fridge]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

What about letters/numbers like C=Cardassians, L=Lost Era, 9=Deep Space Nine, N=New Frontier,etc.

 

[Christopher]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

Heck, I'm not colorblind and I still have trouble telling those colored dots apart, because some of the colors are very similar to each other. Some of them are subtly different shades of roughly the same color, and since the same color can look different to the brain when surrounded by different colors, I'd think that would be confusing for just about anyone.

I was thinking of letter codes as well, or maybe some combination of colors and letters.

 

[Smitty]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

Well since the subject came up, I am color blind and have an almost impossible time of understanding the dots. I do not want to complain because I think the chart is so cool. But if there is consideration about changing it somehow so color does not play such a major part then I am all for it.

 

[Paul Weaver]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

I love this chart, it's been an absolutely essential guide over the last couple of years, so thanks for updating it!

That said, I don't use the small dots. If they had letters in that might do the trick.

 

[8of5]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

I've been meaning to email you guys... The Light Fantastic directly spoils major plot developments of The Fall, and I feel like your chart doesn't indicate clearly enough that The Fall should be read first.

Should be a solid black arrow rather than a dotted green one.

Weren't they out several months apart?

Yes, but I don't think this chart really considers factors like that. I agree that there are major spoilers, and could therefore warrant a solid line. On the other hand, I don't think you really need to read The Fall before The Light Fantastic to get much of the story, so that's an argument against the solid line.

Yeah, that argument. The Fall doesn't really impact The Light Fantastic, other than when and where parts of it take place. Both types of line could be taken to mean read whatever they are coming from first. But the idea is the solid lines let you follow a series or plot point straight through, while the dots are looser connections.

Of course, this could also be an opportunity to revamp the color-coding system slightly– I would love for there to be a little more variety in shapes. Maybe circles for the TV series, squares for the Lit series, and triangles for the various threads (Cardassians, Federation President, Mirror Universe, that kind of thing)? There are, right now, just too many colors for me to keep track of (and my color vision is fine).

Honestly, I second the notion of using different shapes instead of different colors in circles, not just out of deference to chrinFinity and other color-blind folks, but also in deference to the fact that the circles are really small and not always easy to distinguish.

Just a thought.

Heck, I thought up the dots and placed them all, and even I struggle to tell them apart some times! With them representing so many series/plots it's hard to find enough different-enough colours to cover everything.

I really like the three shapes idea though, that's definitely up for consideration on the next revision!

 

[KimMH]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

Thank you both for the chart.

 

[chrinFinity]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

What? Surely you're aware, the needs of the many outway the needs of the few. So just because you're colour blind (I didn't think women could be) shouldn't ruin it for the rest of us.

It's rare, but it does happen. I'm the lucky few.

And your argument is ableist and frankly hurtful.

What do you think they would do on Titan if some crew members couldn't read the light spectrum the door signs are printed in? They'd replace the door signs.

You wouldn't lose anything if they put out a colour-blind accessible version of their chart, and you'd be able to use it just fine. There is no justifiable reason to deprive real people like me who have just as much interest in Star Trek as you do. I didn't ask to be colour blind! Come on, man.

In terms of the meanings of lines, I don't use them primarily to follow one plot line or another, I use them so I can read everything, and not be spoiled. So the warning between Fall and Light Fantastic would have been useful.

Again, thank the artists for all the effort you've put into this chart.

If I offer my thoughts, it's because I want to help you make it even better, as a person who has used it heavily and benefited greatly from your valuable work.

 

[Thrawn]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

There is a green arrow between The Fall and Light Fantastic. One way to think of the green arrows between two books is, I guess, "you don't need to read the first one to understand the second, but the second will refer to or spoil something in the first".

And it looks like 8of5 is going to work on the color blind issue for the next iteration. No worries, we understand the spirit of your comments!

 

[Christopher]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

There is a green arrow between The Fall and Light Fantastic.

What's Oliver Queen doing in a Star Trek diagram? Have we failed this city?

 

[chrinFinity]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

And it looks like 8of5 is going to work on the color blind issue for the next iteration. No worries, we understand the spirit of your comments!

Thank you! <3

 

[Enterprise1701]

Re: The Almighty Star Trek Lit-verse Reading Order Flow Chart, Version

There is a green arrow between The Fall and Light Fantastic.

What's Oliver Queen doing in a Star Trek diagram? Have we failed this city?

He tried to hit Moriarty but failed because Moriarty is a hologram.