Oh, but it's by just one vote. They were even for a long time. Spock Prime stil has it (or at least he did when he was in his prime)!
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The all-inclusive "Sexiest Trek character" poll
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Oh, but it's by just one vote. They were even for a long time. Spock Prime stil has it (or at least he did when he was in his prime)!
Yup--also recall how the ladies started gettin' the hots for Spock after he got all choked up in "Naked Time". "Aw...he's so...vulnerable...."
And of course, in the film, Uhura starts showing feelings for Spock just after he loses his home--and his mother.
Just thinkin'--any connection here?
And of course, in the film, Uhura starts showing feelings for Spock just after he loses his home--and his mother.
Just thinkin'--any connection here?
Then maybe there's something wrong with me, because I started thinking nuSpock was hot around the time he gave his big "f*ck you" to the VSA. Smart and badass, that's how I like them. The vulnerability-in-the-turbolift thing didn't do it for me at all, but I liked his throwing caution to the wind and snuggling Uhura in front of Kirk before they boarded the Narada, then refusing to comment on it. Bold, decisive independence is lovely in a man.
I found TOS Spock compelling almost from the word "go" - certainly by the first time he put McCoy down. He was just - is just - so so so cool.
What's intriguing about both Spocks, if you ask me - and I think you did, Rush - is massive intelligence combined with a sense of humor combined with strength. And the other thing is, of course, that Spock seems so icy and collected and unobtainable, but you get the feeling that there is a LOT more going on underneath, and it isn't icy at alllllll.
As for when I found nuSpock hot...almost the second he stepped on screen, really. I'm just a Spock girl.
What's intriguing about both Spocks, if you ask me - and I think you did, Rush
- is massive intelligence combined with a sense of humor combined with strength. And the other thing is, of course, that Spock seems so icy and collected and unobtainable, but you get the feeling that there is a LOT more going on underneath, and it isn't icy at alllllll.As for when I found nuSpock hot...almost the second he stepped on screen, really. I'm just a Spock girl.
What's intriguing about both Spocks, if you ask me - and I think you did, Rush
Yes! To all of this.
What's intriguing about both Spocks, if you ask me - and I think you did, Rush
Ah, yes, of course. This was Isaac Asimov's rationale, too, as I recall, for why Spock's had such a loyal female following over the years.
Nimoy, of course, satirized this like so:
SHE (i.e., typical "Spock Girl"): Mr. Spock...can I offer you something to drink? Scotch...burbon...whiskey...a martini...?
SPOCK: Madam...my mind is in precisely the condition I desire it to be. I see no reason to alter it with stimulants or depressents.
SHE: ...Would you excuse me while I...slip into something more comfortable?
SPOCK: ...Since the dress you are wearing is clearly not functional...and you now inform me that it is not comfortable...I fail to comprehend your reasons for wearing it.
Hmmm, having followed this thread with much interest, I feel like posting my own thoughts briefly. I must say I've never had a woman in "Star Trek" have quite the impact Spock has apparently had on many of the women here. However....
Kira might come close. So much about her fits what I would be looking for in a "girlfriend": Spiritual, strong-willed, emotional, direct in her attitude and conduct with great complexity beneath it, hands-on, protective (in the "military officer" rather than the "parental" way), strong, dedicated to her people, physically appealing in a functional, natural way rather than through her makeup or clothes (the more "natural" a woman looks the more attractive I find her), in a position of authority and leadership...and still vulnerable in her way, enough so that I could be there for her as well, (I of course want my lover to need me as much as I her- I don't want to be some sort of clingy parasite
). Kira's instability and trauma makes me feel she could use someone to be there behind her, supporting her and healing her wounds as well as looking up to her. A woman raised in such trying and difficult circumstances but who becomes such a strong figure of the best in her people is appealing to me (the scene in the penultimate episode where she watches Damar rally the Cardassian civilians on the street is one of my favourite- how she just stands there, watching, realizing that Damar is for Cardassia what Shakaar is for Bajor- and that she was there behind them both, influencing and backing and supporting them both times. She is a hero to Bajor and to Cardassia. She has also helped Damar, who originally seemed to embody everything she hated (Cardassian thuggish militarism), become everything she admires (selfless heroism for the sake of one's people)). All in all, Odo was a lucky man.
So, given all that, why didn't I vote for her? Well, there's still something that prevents her having quite the impact on me she could have. Maybe she's a little too angry and traumatized in the early seasons (understandable given her upbringing and history, nothing wrong with it from a characterization viewpoint, but a little off-putting in regards to intimacy). I also think she could have used more of a sense of humour, as I find a lack of humour quite disappointing.
Kira might come close. So much about her fits what I would be looking for in a "girlfriend": Spiritual, strong-willed, emotional, direct in her attitude and conduct with great complexity beneath it, hands-on, protective (in the "military officer" rather than the "parental" way), strong, dedicated to her people, physically appealing in a functional, natural way rather than through her makeup or clothes (the more "natural" a woman looks the more attractive I find her), in a position of authority and leadership...and still vulnerable in her way, enough so that I could be there for her as well, (I of course want my lover to need me as much as I her- I don't want to be some sort of clingy parasite
). Kira's instability and trauma makes me feel she could use someone to be there behind her, supporting her and healing her wounds as well as looking up to her. A woman raised in such trying and difficult circumstances but who becomes such a strong figure of the best in her people is appealing to me (the scene in the penultimate episode where she watches Damar rally the Cardassian civilians on the street is one of my favourite- how she just stands there, watching, realizing that Damar is for Cardassia what Shakaar is for Bajor- and that she was there behind them both, influencing and backing and supporting them both times. She is a hero to Bajor and to Cardassia. She has also helped Damar, who originally seemed to embody everything she hated (Cardassian thuggish militarism), become everything she admires (selfless heroism for the sake of one's people)). All in all, Odo was a lucky man. So, given all that, why didn't I vote for her? Well, there's still something that prevents her having quite the impact on me she could have. Maybe she's a little too angry and traumatized in the early seasons (understandable given her upbringing and history, nothing wrong with it from a characterization viewpoint, but a little off-putting in regards to intimacy). I also think she could have used more of a sense of humour, as I find a lack of humour quite disappointing.
All right, enough about "Spockasms"....
(Sorry ladies--I couldn't resist!)
Following in Nasat's footsteps:
For me, Ezri's innocence strongly implies a sense of unwavering dignity, integrity and honor. She is filled with a desire to do some good in her life, and the lives of others.
And, Joran notwithstanding, she seems to find it extremely difficult to comprehend someone choosing evil over good--and whenever she sees evil, her disgust and contempt is all too clear. (And even in "Field of Fire", she is desperate to disassociate herself from Joran--"I don't want to have anything to do with you--now leave me alone!")
Her enthusiasm, in addition, indicates the drive to do what has to be done. As Worf said to her: "You are Dax. It is your way [to do what is neccessary]."
Finally, there's her big heart. I think the best image for this is in "The Seige of AR-558". In the end of that ep, Ezri gently cradles in her arms the officer she'd befriended early on--even though she knows that he's now passed on. (As is she all too aware that he died saving her own life....)
She has, then, a great deal of respect for life--and the thought of killing in cold blood is so repulsive for her that in "Field of Fire", even though the gun wasn't loaded, she still is disghusted with Joran for having her play-act at murder.
All this "inner-beauty" strongly appeals to me--and, I'm sure, to a lot of other guys, as well. This is what I refered to when I discussed her "heroism".
And...her enthusiasm in particular greatly contributes to her "sexyness". She usually has a strong positive attitude--often ready with a gentle smile, and many times a chuckle. She carries herself with a lot of spring in her step. She's just plain fun to be around: more so, IMHO, than Jadzia--or Seven, for that matter--could ever hope to be.
And it doesn't hurt that she's just darn attractive, too.
(Sorry ladies--I couldn't resist!)
Following in Nasat's footsteps:
For me, Ezri's innocence strongly implies a sense of unwavering dignity, integrity and honor. She is filled with a desire to do some good in her life, and the lives of others.
And, Joran notwithstanding, she seems to find it extremely difficult to comprehend someone choosing evil over good--and whenever she sees evil, her disgust and contempt is all too clear. (And even in "Field of Fire", she is desperate to disassociate herself from Joran--"I don't want to have anything to do with you--now leave me alone!")
Her enthusiasm, in addition, indicates the drive to do what has to be done. As Worf said to her: "You are Dax. It is your way [to do what is neccessary]."
Finally, there's her big heart. I think the best image for this is in "The Seige of AR-558". In the end of that ep, Ezri gently cradles in her arms the officer she'd befriended early on--even though she knows that he's now passed on. (As is she all too aware that he died saving her own life....)
She has, then, a great deal of respect for life--and the thought of killing in cold blood is so repulsive for her that in "Field of Fire", even though the gun wasn't loaded, she still is disghusted with Joran for having her play-act at murder.
All this "inner-beauty" strongly appeals to me--and, I'm sure, to a lot of other guys, as well. This is what I refered to when I discussed her "heroism".
And...her enthusiasm in particular greatly contributes to her "sexyness". She usually has a strong positive attitude--often ready with a gentle smile, and many times a chuckle. She carries herself with a lot of spring in her step. She's just plain fun to be around: more so, IMHO, than Jadzia--or Seven, for that matter--could ever hope to be.
And it doesn't hurt that she's just darn attractive, too.
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I was expecting more love for Janeway. She and Kira would be my top picks..
You want to be dominated, don't you?
Ladies and gentlemen...we have hit the 40-point margin!
Seven's still in the lead--40 points even....
Ezri's still behing by two (looks like some folks are back to voting for both, or something....).
ONCE AGAIN, Jadzia and T'pol are TIED for Third, 34-34.
Kira's tied for fifth...with NuSPOCK!!! 28-28.
Yes, folks...at long last...WE MAY HAVE A MAN IN THE TOP FIVE!!!
Seven's still in the lead--40 points even....
Ezri's still behing by two (looks like some folks are back to voting for both, or something....).
ONCE AGAIN, Jadzia and T'pol are TIED for Third, 34-34.
Kira's tied for fifth...with NuSPOCK!!! 28-28.
Yes, folks...at long last...WE MAY HAVE A MAN IN THE TOP FIVE!!!
So nobody finds evilness sexy? 
Janice Lester should be on this poll. With her evil blue eye make-up and evil grin as she traps Kirk in her machine and switches bodies with him after tricking him into thinking she was unconscious, she was one naughty, naughty girl, and I LOVED it. 
Most of the girls in this poll that I like are ones I like because I think they're cute, endearing, sweet or cool (i.e. Crusher, Ezri, Jadzia, Leila, Uhura, Janeway, Troi, Lefler, Yar, Edith Keeler, Marta), but I didn't think any of them had a lot of sex appeal. The only three I thought really appealed in that way were the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident", Leeta, and Vash. When she sits in Picard's chair and shows off her legs...yowza!
P.S. I forgot to vote for Kamala. She was a huge babe too.
Janice Lester should be on this poll. With her evil blue eye make-up and evil grin as she traps Kirk in her machine and switches bodies with him after tricking him into thinking she was unconscious, she was one naughty, naughty girl, and I LOVED it. Most of the girls in this poll that I like are ones I like because I think they're cute, endearing, sweet or cool (i.e. Crusher, Ezri, Jadzia, Leila, Uhura, Janeway, Troi, Lefler, Yar, Edith Keeler, Marta), but I didn't think any of them had a lot of sex appeal. The only three I thought really appealed in that way were the Romulan Commander from "The Enterprise Incident", Leeta, and Vash. When she sits in Picard's chair and shows off her legs...yowza!
P.S. I forgot to vote for Kamala. She was a huge babe too.
Weeeeell... I find evilness sexy, sometimes.So nobody finds evilness sexy?
But judging by the results of this poll, not too many people agree. that they can't find an eeevil character sexy even if he is sexy... or something. 
Me... I don't see why I should feel guilty about it, or make it some sort of a rule that I am not allowed to be attracted to fictional character who are not 'good guys'.
Actually, I find both some fictional bad guys and some good guys attractive. But I think that, in fact, I am essentially attracted to certain characteristics that people can have regardless of how their ethics or actions: looks play a part in it, no doubt, but so do, and even more so, traits like charisma, intelligence, strength, charm, wit, intensity, passion...Spock is an example of a good guy who is sexy, because he is intelligent, strong, mysterious, charismatic, deep, and all those things that JustKate has already wonderfully described. Unfortunately, too often you'll see writers incapable of creating a convincing and compelling good guy, so the villains and anti-heroes end up being a lot more attractive: a good example is Heroes, with characters like Peter Petrelli, who is "Idiot Hero" personified, and played by an incredibly bland actor.
Going back to the previous discussion between Rush and PSGarak: Of course, admiration you feel for a person might lead to love, which might lead to a sexual attraction. But I don't think you're going to find someone sexy just because they're heroic. There are plenty of people I admire and respect, but that I don't find sexy.
But, I don't believe that sex appeal is only a matter of physical attractiveness. There are many people who are very good-looking, very pleasing on an aesthetical level, but who do nothing for me. As I said, personality and charisma is at least as important, if not more. To give you an example: I was chatted up in a club by a guy who was very good-looking, but who turned out to be an idiot as soon as he opened his mouth. So, my first thought, before he actually approached me, was "what a good-looking guy", but this soon became irrelevant, and after 5 minutes of a tedious conversation during which I found it difficult not to tell him what a moron he was because of some of the views and attitudes he displayed, I found a way to escape him, and have since avoided him every time I saw him somewhere. On the other hand, one other guy I met proved to be very nice and intelligent and have great taste, and we were good friends for a while, but I didn't find him physically attractive at all - in fact, I found him very ugly, and really was not able to get past that. When he started hitting on me, it felt very uncomfortable, and I had to stop spending time with him. In short: both looks and personality matter. In fact, it is often impossible to separate one from the other. If you find someone attractive because of their figure, it's clearly a physical thing. If you find them attractive because of their e-mails or forum posts, or magazine articles, because of the wit, intelligence, passion or attitude they show through it, it's personality. (And yes, people can find someone sexy because of the way they write and the personality they project through it, even if you haven't meet them and don't know what they look like.) But what if you find them attractive because of the way their eyes glow when they talk, their smile, the way they look at you with piercing eyes, because of the way their voice sounds when they are talking passionately about something ... is it a physical thing, or a matter of personality and attitude? What about people finding someone's accent sexy, or their mannerisms, the way they walk?
Also, personality traits that people find attractive vary: I don't find 'cute', childlike people sexy, which is why I never found Bashir sexy, and why I don't think I'd be attracted to Ezri, if I was interested in women that way. Kira, on the other hand... (but not the Intendant. She annoyed me.)
I don't think I could be attracted to someone I completely despised - they have to have some attractive and admirable qualities you are drawn to. But what if they also have some other traits that make them, well, overall not such a good person? And that's where it becomes more complicated: what if you are aware that someone is far from a wonderful person, but they still have enough attractive qualities to remain interesting and likeable on some level? Let me put it this way: I could never, I never do, find someone sexy, no matter how they looked, if they are a boring idiot. But, let's say, you find someone sexy, not just because they are physically attractive, but also charismatic, smart, funny, articulate, confident, intriguing. However - what if it turns out that they are also completely selfish, immoral, and untrustworthy? Will that make them a less desirable partner for a romantic relationship? Definitely yes (as least as I am concerned - but there are all sorts of people out there, and some might not mind it.) But will it make them less sexy? I don't think so.
Exactly.
But, as a philosopher, I'd say those traits are, subconciously at least, "heroic" qualities.
As I said at the begining of this "deep" discussion, it depends on the traits that one finds admirable (charisma, wit, innocence, etc.)--or, as I later described, "heroic".
Okaaaaaaaaaaaay...I'd say the scores are changed enough to warrant an update:
Seven's still in First, with 40.
Ezri's getting real close--with 39.
Jadzia's in Third--36.
T'Pol's in Fourth--34.
Kira and NuSpock are still tied for fifth--29-29.
Seven's still in First, with 40.
Ezri's getting real close--with 39.
Jadzia's in Third--36.
T'Pol's in Fourth--34.
Kira and NuSpock are still tied for fifth--29-29.
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