The Adventures of Harry Mudd

[publiusr]

That's good! Keep them away from Zorak though...

 

[johnnybear]

I Mudd was definitely worse than Mudd's Women! I remember recording numerous episodes of Trek off the BBC back in 1980 and was always annoyed that I'd rather have The Doomsday Machine (which had already been on before I got a video recorder) than this one! The ending was ludicrous and very embarrising especially with parents who were not fond of the show shall we say!
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

Harry being trapped on a planet with multiple versions of his sharp tongued wife?

 

[T'Girl]

... just how did Norman arrange to get himself aboard a Starfleet vessel and accepted as a transferred crewman? He couldn't just stowaway so he would have had to convincingly falsify orders (as well as a complete service record) assigning him to whatever ship was at hand.

In quite a number of episodes Starfleet computers and records are shown to be vulnerable to manipulation by people with the correct knowledge and abilities.

My ongoing assumption is the Norman simply created a previously nonexistent officer out of thin air and reported aboard the Enterprise with the correct credentials and orders. Conjecture that the Enterprise might have been short an officer (for some reason) and had put in a request to Starfleet for a new one, Norman might have set himself up to report to a number of starships, the Enterprise was just the first to arrive where Norman was at the time.

Combine that with the fact that Kirk doesn't always know who all his officers even are.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Starfleet cyber security is about as effective as it's physical security.

 

[LordMudd]

The Trouble with Tribbles was supposed to be Harry Mudd, but Roger C. Carmel was not available so Cyrano Jones was created for it. Roddenberry tried to pitch a spin off with Mudd but it never panned out.

I spent 3 years on the local convention circuit as Mudd undefeated in costume contests.
I developed a story outline for Mudd on DS9. It starts with him stepping out onto the promenade and crossing to Quark's while Odo watches. Odo then goes into his office and begins a search. The main story of the episode picks up here and we come back to Odo periodically. The search reveals the longest single criminal record ever with multiple arrests occurring simultaneously and even multiple confirmed executions. Odo also finds several Wardens who can visually confirm Mudd incarcerated in their facility, yet there he is in Quark's. Then Odo finds a file that won't open, which triggers a conversation with Sisco and a Starfleet Security Admiral who explains the quarantine on information about Mudd's World, and the potential threat if an enemy got the tech to create a totally obedient, disposable army. Odo points at Mudd and says "I think you are a little too late for that."

The story establishes that Harry created an unknown number of copies of himself to cover his escape. Problem was, they all thought they really were him, so they all escaped and have been running around the galaxy causing mayhem ever since. We never find out what happened to the real Harry, but the androids open the door for an unlimited number of Mudd stories that don't even have to be connected to each other, and can end any way the author wants, and given the time frame, one of them could have even made it onto Voyager. Also, the androids cannot be 'arrested' until they actually get caught doing something wrong because of the legal status on sentient androids from The Measure of a Man. (TNG)

It also bears noting that Kirk (2) used the ship appropriated in "the Mudd incident" to go after Kahn on the Klingon planet in Into Darkness.

CCC. (and now you know the story behind my screen name.)

 

[Melakon]

The Trouble with Tribbles was supposed to be Harry Mudd, but Roger C. Carmel was not available so Cyrano Jones was created for it.

What I remember about David Gerrold's book on the making of "Trouble with Tribbles" seems to indicate Cyrano Jones was Gerrold's own original character (originally named Cyrano Day Jaymin). The personality was somewhat undefined though, and Gene Coon suggested making him similar to Harry Mudd. Mudd was Stephen Kandel's baby, and wrote all his scripts.

 

[Warped9]

Cyrano Jones doesn't impress as a full cloth criminal. He's a regular guy who might cut corners and not ask many questions so he can come out ahead when he can. But he's not in Mudd's class as an all out con man.

 

[Melakon]

SPOCK: We have already checked on the background of Mister Cyrano Jones. He is a licensed asteroid locator and prospector. He's never broken the law, at least not severely. For the past seven years, with his one-man spaceship, he's obtained a marginal living by engaging in the buying and selling of rare merchandise, including, unfortunately, tribbles.

It sounds like the worst Cyrano is guilty of is misdemeanors.

 

[Warped9]

Mudd would take Cyrano Jones to the cleaners. Or Jones would run not daring to go over the line that Mudd would cross without blinking.

 

[Melakon]

There's also the question of what happened to the real Leo Walsh, who "passed away suddenly", and whether Harry contributed to his demise. But I think we can guess the answer to that.

 

[Warped9]

There's also the question of what happened to the real Leo Walsh, who "passed away suddenly", and whether Harry contributed to his demise. But I think we can guess the answer to that.

It might be hard to say (appearances can be deceiving) but Mudd never impressed me as someone with few qualms about actually killing someone.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I think Harry stole the man's ID and ship or swindled him out of it. I wouldn't be surprised if Leo was still alive.

 

[T'Girl]

Starfleet cyber security is about as effective as it's physical security.

I have alway enjoyed the way a security guard would arrive to protect the bridge, and immediately turn his back on the only entrance.

There's also the question of what happened to the real Leo Walsh, who "passed away suddenly" ...

Leo decided to have himself a time with all three women, and as a consequence "passed away suddenly."