Because she is a more than competent Starfleet commanderder.
Yeah, and she's a woman too. The only woman lead in a STAR TREK series. Isn't that what you really mean?
The absurdity of promoting Janeway to admiral
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Because she is a more than competent Starfleet commanderder.
Yeah, and she's a woman too. The only woman lead in a STAR TREK series. Isn't that what you really mean?
She killed Tuvix.
That has nothing to do with gender.
That has nothing to do with gender.
I guess that she was made Admiral for her distinguished service during her long journey in the DQ, like the exploration of this still unknown quadrant and the sealing of numerous alliances. The production of inestimable informations for Starfleet & the Federation. Plus, she brought back a great part of her crew safe and sound on Earth (which Admiral Paris son) and her vessel, the Voyager, in a single even improved piece. It holds of the miracle and of a certain military discipline, which could serve for the recruitment in an immediate future, especially in case of war.
Of course, she made some errors (like Equinox) and she certainly had to answer to some delicate questions in front of a commission of inquiry formed by a bunch of Admirals, sometimes hostile to her, but in the end, she will have been cleared in view of circumstances and the admiralty will be offered to her, promotion which she will accept maybe with a certain relief... . And then her knowledge of Borgs made of her - with Seven - a specialist whose is very sought.
OR
As certain despondent spirits think, she will be offered the admiralty to calm her enthusiasm of big spaces and prevent her from putting another quadrant in fire and in blood!
Of course, she made some errors (like Equinox) and she certainly had to answer to some delicate questions in front of a commission of inquiry formed by a bunch of Admirals, sometimes hostile to her, but in the end, she will have been cleared in view of circumstances and the admiralty will be offered to her, promotion which she will accept maybe with a certain relief... . And then her knowledge of Borgs made of her - with Seven - a specialist whose is very sought.
OR
As certain despondent spirits think, she will be offered the admiralty to calm her enthusiasm of big spaces and prevent her from putting another quadrant in fire and in blood!
I guess that she was made Admiral for her distinguished service during her long journey in the DQ, like the exploration of this still unknown quadrant and the sealing of numerous alliances. The production of inestimable informations for Starfleet & the Federation. Plus, she brought back a great part of her crew safe and sound on Earth (which Admiral Paris son) and her vessel, the Voyager, in a single even improved piece. It holds of the miracle and of a certain military discipline, which could serve for the recruitment in an immediate future, especially in case of war.
Of course, she made some errors (like Equinox) and she certainly had to answer to some delicate questions in front of a commission of inquiry formed by a bunch of Admirals, sometimes hostile to her, but in the end, she will have been cleared in view of circumstances and the admiralty will be offered to her, promotion which she will accept maybe with a certain relief... . And then her knowledge of Borgs made of her - with Seven - a specialist whose is very sought.
OR
As certain despondent spirits think, she will be offered the admiralty to calm her enthusiasm of big spaces and prevent her from putting another quadrant in fire and in blood!
^^ this
It doesn't matter the good or bad she did, or her gender.
It was a PR Coup.
Everyone got promoted.
Especially if they didn't deserve it, because the Federation, after the horror of the Dominon War, needed a happily ever after fairy story.
It was a PR Coup.
Everyone got promoted.
Especially if they didn't deserve it, because the Federation, after the horror of the Dominon War, needed a happily ever after fairy story.
Geez, didn't even notice that. Par for the course lately, it seems.
actually been thinking of this a lot sonce season 3 finale : 1. i dont think theybwould have been comfortable withnpicard for hree reasons : a: picard has a long record of disregarding federation directives and long record of supporting individual over the federation 2 picard was assimilated there would have to be both fear of his loyalty or at least ability confronting the borg. and on the other side his ability not to go moby dick 3 janeway had extensive knowledge of delta , of the collecttive and of the borg without having ever been one 4 she demonstrated at leadt in scorpion 1 and 2 -and battling the time ship a moral flexibility and a willingness to win the battle field. 5. i do not think that picard would have accepted the command of the task force he was in charge of the task force flagship
nah i get warni gs all the timelol
Since Monday?
It would bother me if they genuinely had considered Janeway for promotion before Picard. But since Picard refused such a promotion in the past at least once, no problem.
I think it was more of an issue that they wrote her character without any, well, character. Kirk was an adventurer, Picard was a trained diplomat, and Janeway was... a woman?
Can you imagine how Sisko may have been written if his defining character trait was "the black one"? Because that seems to be how Janeway was written as "the female one".
Kathryn Janeway was a former Science Officer.
She should have been smarter than Spock, since every thing he had to invent to save the day, should have been taught to her in grade school as her building blocks.
What we wound up learning from someone who's most infamous coined phrase is "Time travel Gives me a head ache" is that she must have been a gawd awful Science Officer.
She transitioned to command, or was promoted out of Science, because everyone figured out that it was suicide to leave Kathryn in charge of a Star Ship's Science Station.
She should have been smarter than Spock, since every thing he had to invent to save the day, should have been taught to her in grade school as her building blocks.
What we wound up learning from someone who's most infamous coined phrase is "Time travel Gives me a head ache" is that she must have been a gawd awful Science Officer.
She transitioned to command, or was promoted out of Science, because everyone figured out that it was suicide to leave Kathryn in charge of a Star Ship's Science Station.
My guess is that it's because no one else wanted the job. That's the only valid reason that I can think of to promoting Janeway to that position.
It's a two part thing.
"Do you want to be an admiral?"
"What will I be Admiral of?"
"We'll tell you, after you take the job."
"Do you want to be an admiral?"
"What will I be Admiral of?"
"We'll tell you, after you take the job."
I think she drew the short straw. That's the same set they use on starship to decide who's gonna be eaten, in case of prolonged replicator break-down.
I used to think Janeway didn't deserve a promotion, but after seven years of working with Harry, she needed a medal.
It makes sense that Starfleet would promote her, even after some of the more questionable acts she did. I just wish she had been written more consistently throughout the series. In season two's Alliances, she is unwilling to break with her Starfleet ideals. Then suddenly by The Swarm about half a season later, she's willing to bypass through a species' space to get a shortcut home?
It makes sense that Starfleet would promote her, even after some of the more questionable acts she did. I just wish she had been written more consistently throughout the series. In season two's Alliances, she is unwilling to break with her Starfleet ideals. Then suddenly by The Swarm about half a season later, she's willing to bypass through a species' space to get a shortcut home?
By "bypass" don't you mean "butcher by the thousand"?
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