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But enough to risk a 1000 to 1 shot? With the very real possibility that they would be 90 or older when the ship finally made it back? I just don't buy into the notion that everyone would choose to do that.
If I had been there, I would probably have stayed on the ship. It doesn't matter if I had been Starfleet or Maquis.

Why? Because I'd rather would have stayed with a bunch of people I knew, some of them good friends and with at least a minimal chance to get home than to jump ship in the middle of nowhere to stay on a planet too close to Vidiian and Kazon territory and with no chance at all to get home.
 
The Voyager sensors didn't detect the humans on the planet, or their three cities. And Voyager was ON the surface.

I doubt the Kazon or Vidiians would be able to detect them from orbit.
 
The Voyager sensors didn't detect the humans on the planet, or their three cities. And Voyager was ON the surface.

I doubt the Kazon or Vidiians would be able to detect them from orbit.
That's right!
I forgot that.
So they obviously had some protection after all. Probably necessary in that area.
 
But enough to risk a 1000 to 1 shot? With the very real possibility that they would be 90 or older when the ship finally made it back? I just don't buy into the notion that everyone would choose to do that.

I wonder now what a re-imagining of Voyager would have looked like (either more realistic, with people that only accept Janeway's mandate of leadership so far - after all she never was elected as a community leader for life, just as a ship's captain, in a Starfleet service people could resign from, but apparently not in the DQ), or more cynical, by showing the gradual transformation of a Starfleet crew into a cult with its own bizarre customs and beliefs.
 
I wonder now what a re-imagining of Voyager would have looked like (either more realistic, with people that only accept Janeway's mandate of leadership so far - after all she never was elected as a community leader for life, just as a ship's captain, in a Starfleet service people could resign from, but apparently not in the DQ), or more cynical, by showing the gradual transformation of a Starfleet crew into a cult with its own bizarre customs and beliefs.
A bizarre cult would be highly interesting! :D

Something like that in the DS9 episode Covenant where Dukat had taken charge of a bunch of Bajoran Pah Wraith-worshippers who worshipped the Pah-Wraits and Dukat!

Me with my twisted sense of humor found that episode quite funny!

I would have loved to see a Janeway cult on the ship with a huge painting in North Korean style of Janeway leading the cult members to a happy future, with regular meetings in the mess hall with Neelix as High Priest of the cult.

I would actually love to have a finished painting of Dukat leading his Bajoran followers on my wall! :lol:

But sincerely, in the situation the crew on Voyager were, it was quite logic that they did see janeway as a sort of leader for a mission which was about to get them home.

There has often been some criticizm about how most of the Maquis on the ship fell into the line and accepted being part of a Starfleet crew led by Janeway.

But what else could they do?

Voyager was their best shot of getting home and the Maquis on the ship were only about 30 people. What could they actually do to take over?

Not to mention that their leader Chakotay accepted Janeway's leadership and was followed by Maquis members like B'Elanna Torres and Ayala.
 
But sincerely, in the situation the crew on Voyager were, it was quite logic that they did see janeway as a sort of leader for a mission which was about to get them home.
Sure, I'm not complaining about Janeway being the natural leader at first. Of course, immediately after they got lost in the DQ, she would be the person leadership would naturally fall to.

But as soon as it became clear that returning to the AQ could become a matter of years or possibly even a generational undertaking, with no real alternative to people (except for staying behind somewhere in the DQ), and the very first emergencies were resolved, I would expect people to start thinking critically about the whole situation. Not to reject Janeway as such, but to reflect the new reality that this isn't just a ship on an extended Starfleet mission anymore, but more than that, a living community for the foreseeable future that people couldn't realistically resign from, with a 'leader' that was never elected and now had to lead in many more aspects than she ever was mandated for.

For example, they could have opted to install a dual leadership over the years. A 'military' leader, which would still be Janeway, and a 'civilian'/community leader, which might be elected, much like you had on Battlestar Galactica. (Not saying that would necessarily have been a good idea, just that such alternatives were never even considered seems a bit weird to me).
 
Sure, I'm not complaining about Janeway being the natural leader at first. Of course, immediately after they got lost in the DQ, she would be the person leadership would naturally fall to.

But as soon as it became clear that returning to the AQ could become a matter of years or possibly even a generational undertaking, with no real alternative to people (except for staying behind somewhere in the DQ), and the very first emergencies were resolved, I would expect people to start thinking critically about the whole situation. Not to reject Janeway as such, but to reflect the new reality that this isn't just a ship on an extended Starfleet mission anymore, but more than that, a living community for the foreseeable future that people couldn't realistically resign from, with a 'leader' that was never elected and now had to lead in many more aspects than she ever was mandated for.

For example, they could have opted to install a dual leadership over the years. A 'military' leader, which would still be Janeway, and a 'civilian'/community leader, which might be elected, much like you had on Battlestar Galactica. (Not saying that would necessarily have been a good idea, just that such alternatives were never even considered seems a bit weird to me).
I see your point.
But if I had been a Maquis on that ship, I would probably have realized that Voyager is the only way to get home and stayed on the ship.

However, i wrote a story where a bunch of maquis joined the Voyager crew in season 7 but they left to take care of some unfinished business in the area.

They had planned to meet up with Voyager again but they never found the ship at the place where they were supposed to meet again so they continued on their own.

They managed to find a wormhole which took them to the gamma Quadrant and from there they could go via the wormhole to the Alpha Quadrant and settle on a planet near the Tzenkheti border.

However, I must admit that this was a panic solution for me to write myself out of a situation which hampered my writing. ;)

When it comes to the Maquis, I've always thought that the maquis should have been organized as a special force on the ship, led by Chakotay. That would have been better than to force them into Starfleet as Janeway did.

Your suggestion about a military faction and a civilian faction has some value. But I still cringe when I think about the horrible Stargate Universe where it was constant bickering between the military faction and the civilian faction. If that had happened on Voyager, i would probably have stopped watching at an ealier stage than i did.
 
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