That superfast planet episode

[All Seeing Eye]

Cant remember the episodes name but its the one where they take orbit around a planet only to discover time on the planet is travelling extremely fast and within days the planet has evolved by thousands of years until eventually they build a starship that can enter/exit there planet without suffering from the timeshift.

Anyway my problem is this, if the planet evolved so fast when Voyager was in orbit then by the time Voyager got back to Earth they would undoubtably be so evolved and their technology so advanced that they could conquer the Galaxy, they should have weapons capable of taking out Borg cubes in one shot, transwarp capable of jumping between galaxies in a split second and impenetrable shields. Hell, it wont be long before they evolve into Q like beings.

What a shonk this episode turned out to be, who wrote this thing!! they obviously didnt consider the fact once Voyager was gone the planet would still be fast forwarding. Boy oh boy!!

 

[Squiggy]

Fire said:
they would undoubtably be so evolved and their technology so advanced that they could conquer the Galaxy, they should have weapons capable of taking out Borg cubes in one shot, transwarp capable of jumping between galaxies in a split second and impenetrable shields. Hell, it wont be long before they evolve into Q like beings.

Or, they could blow themselves up or just "die off".

Christ. It's science-fiction. Not every single detail has to be accounted for.

 

[Alyssa]

well the last thing we saw was Voyager getting home. so who is to say what starfleet did about that planet maybe they did contact them! but in regards to people watching the show it does seem like they wasted it quite a bit.

 

[exodus]

The ep. was called "Blink of an Eye".


Why would they even know about the Borg?

They had just started space exporation by the time they freed Voyager. They also couldn't survive outside of their own plantary atmosphere. Their civilzation could be dead and gone without ever exploring space or meeting the Borg.

Plus, I think the Borg would avoid this planet due to the rapidly advancing timeline. No organic being could survive those rapid changes. They'd be beaming down dead, same with beaming people up.

 

[Christopher]

Fire said:
Anyway my problem is this, if the planet evolved so fast when Voyager was in orbit then by the time Voyager got back to Earth they would undoubtably be so evolved and their technology so advanced that they could conquer the Galaxy, they should have weapons capable of taking out Borg cubes in one shot, transwarp capable of jumping between galaxies in a split second and impenetrable shields. Hell, it wont be long before they evolve into Q like beings.

What a shonk this episode turned out to be, who wrote this thing!! they obviously didnt consider the fact once Voyager was gone the planet would still be fast forwarding. Boy oh boy!!

"Blink of an Eye" was written by Joe Menosky from a story by Michael Taylor. These were two of VGR's very best writers, and this was one of its finest episodes.

Why assume that any and every race that achieves advanced technology would want to conquer the Galaxy, or even colonize it? That assumption is inconsistent with the entire onscreen history of Star Trek, in which we've seen countless advanced civilizations that were content to keep to themselves. After all, the inhabitants of the tachyon-core planet seemed a decent bunch overall; they probably developed their own Prime Directive and chose not to meddle in the affairs of slower, less advanced civilizations. Or, based on what Daniel Dae Kim's character suggested at the end ("I'm afraid it'll be a while before my people actually join the rest of the galaxy"), it's possible they devised a way to bring their planet into sync with the rest of the universe, so that they no longer advanced at such an accelerated pace.

So don't blame the episode's writers for your own inability to imagine more than one possible future for this culture.

 

[DarthTom]

Christopher said:
"Blink of an Eye" was written by Joe Menosky from a story by Michael Taylor. These were two of VGR's very best writers, and this was one of its finest episodes.

I agree with that. It's right up their for me, with Living Witness and tonight's episode, Tinker Tenor, Doctor, Spy

 

[Akiraprise]

This was also one of my favorite episodes.

I doubt that the people inhabiting this planet would want to conquer the galaxy. They would have super advanced tech by the time Voyager got home, but they did not appear all that aggressive. They only tried to blow Voyager up one time, then they helped them out of orbit.

 

[DarthTom]

Akiraprise said:
This was also one of my favorite episodes.

I doubt that the people inhabiting this planet would want to conquer the galaxy. They would have super advanced tech by the time Voyager got home, but they did not appear all that aggressive. They only tried to blow Voyager up one time, then they helped them out of orbit.

The only general criticism I have with theories like that is that throughout all of the series apparently Federation folks make some very 'fair weather friends' that when the Federation really needs someone to return the favor seem to all but forgotten them.

It isn't reasonable but nonetheless, it doesn't take away from this one episode and how good it was.

 

[JM1776]

I must say that I enjoyed this episode immensely.

 

[freak]

This was one of the better eps of year 6. That reminds me, I might have to watch it again tonight. At least I have that season on DVD.

 

[sbk1234]

I liked this episode from the start. A very creative sci-fi element, imho. I like to think that they did evolve beyond mere Humanoids pretty quickly, and became the new Metrons of the area. It would make a great follow-up-fan-fic. Someone must have written one.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Yeah it was a goody. Kooky soft science... Besides it's a nod to the TOS episode Wink of an Eye.

That planet wouldn't have lasted long, they'd have had to form colonies on regular planets or face extinction the same way man is waiting for the sun to go nova. Except the problem is a little more immediate fro them.

Christopher, you're quite right, they seemed benign, but if Janeway would have waited a week in high orbit, sending down fact gathering holograms everyfew hours to "acquire" technology or even threw the prime Directive right out the window and fed these people technology and direction as launching pads that they'd be building to wards feasible slipstram or transwarp technology with in relative minutes, goodness she actually contracted them as shipwrights or asked them to think about the particulars of a pangalactic transporter like the people from Prime Factors had, or even a super tractor beam like the Caretaker had?

 

[Sephiroth]

i got the impression that the world would stabilize and they would slowly return to normal space-time after voyager left, and that it was voyager's arrival that sped everything up

 

[Timo]

Hmh? What gives you that impression? Just askin' - it would be an interesting story twist indeed.

One wonders how much supertech the planet could come up with all on its own. It couldn't very well send exploration missions to outer space to study the universe - those would spend thousands or millions of local years on a trip that yielded only a few weeks' worth of survey data. It couldn't import goods after the natural resources of the planet ran out. It could indeed export knowledge at an astonishing rate, but to what end? If it caught offworlders trying to tap into that knowledge, it might retaliate, or at least clam up rather efficiently; between any two Emergency Spying Holograms Janeway could send down, they could spend centuries coming up with an ESM detector and countermeasure.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Magisterfrodo]

I actually thought this episode was one of Voyager's strongest. Yes, logically, they should have become advanced enough to voertake Voyager on the way home, but you never know what happens in a planet's history. They may have devoted all their resources to finding a new planetary home in order to interact with other races, in which case, if successful, time would pass normally for them. If not, then they wouldn't be sending too many people out from their planet, because there would be no point. eons would pass before they returned, rendering real dialogue impossible.

Besides, we're already taking massive leaps in logic with Star Trek planets and races, most of whom seem to be at nearly the same point technologically, despite evolving independently over millions or billions of years. There's very little real possibility that any kind of balance of power situation could develop among races like the Romulans, Vulcans, Klingons, Cardassians, and humans. Any one of these would be far superior than the others with just a 100 year time difference in technology, but that doesn't make for very effective story-telling.

 

[nx1701g]

Sephiroth said:
i got the impression that the world would stabilize and they would slowly return to normal space-time after voyager left, and that it was voyager's arrival that sped everything up

I think they said in the episode was that the speed wasn't because of Voyager but was because of the Tachyon core (which had NEVER been seen before).

 

[LifeTrek]

I am pretty sure they mention in the episode that because of the temporal differential they would never be able to accomplish anything other then low planetary orbit space travel. I don't remember the exact reason for this.

Also I think Nx1701q is right, Voyager caused the earthquakes but not the time differential.
DKK

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Christopher said:
Why assume that any and every race that achieves advanced technology would want to conquer the Galaxy, or even colonize it? That assumption is inconsistent with the entire onscreen history of Star Trek, in which we've seen countless advanced civilizations that were content to keep to themselves. After all, the inhabitants of the tachyon-core planet seemed a decent bunch overall; they probably developed their own Prime Directive and chose not to meddle in the affairs of slower, less advanced civilizations.
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So don't blame the episode's writers for your own inability to imagine more than one possible future for this culture.

It seems a common problem with this board that people take things out of context, I never said that they WOULD conquer the galaxy I merely said with the level of technology they would gain that they COULD conquer the galaxy, I also never said they would go looking for the Borg or that they even knew about them, all I said was with their technology the Borg wouldnt stand a chance.
Its also logical to assume they will easily find a way to break orbit of their planet using time dilation technology, its also logical to assume that eventually the population on their world will reach a critical point where they will have to colonize other worlds like practically every other civilisation in trek.
They're evolving fast and at the rate time is moving on that planet it wont be long before they HAVE to leave their planet to colonize other worlds at which point there will be a bunch of colonies in normal space time with advanced tech, it is ridiculous to assume they'll stay on their own planet until millions of years have passed and they evolve into Q like beings and who is to say they will.

If the writers had come up with a way to stop the planet from moving through time so fast the episode would be great.

 

[Timo]

A little side note here:

There's very little real possibility that any kind of balance of power situation could develop among races like the Romulans, Vulcans, Klingons, Cardassians, and humans. Any one of these would be far superior than the others with just a 100 year time difference in technology..

I don't see the problem, really. The powers that come to equilibrium are the ones that venture out into space to meet each other. When the Klingons run into somebody like the Organians (or what the Organians pretended to be), the Klingons win and the natives lose. But when the Klingons run into another bunch of starfarers, they most likely do so sooner rather than later - at a stage where both participants have only been to interstellar space for a limited number of decades. Warp drive caters for exactly that.

If the Klingons were several centuries more advanced than Earth in terms of starflight, they would have conquered us in the Victorian times. But there is little indication that they would be. A sort of equilibrium is bound to set eventually, and we just happen to be one of the winners in that equilibrium, Klingons and Romulans being the others. Countless scores of species may have been losers.

It's probably a game of big guns, medium guns and small guns, too: there are equilibria on multiple levels. Q-like beings keep each other in check so that lesser, Metron-like species can create their own balance, within which even lesser speciesl like Klingons play their own game of balances. That, too, sounds like perfectly natural development.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[DanCPA]

Akiraprise said:
This was also one of my favorite episodes.

Mines as well... It would have been nice to have them catch up to Voyager at some point, with Transwarp