TFF and NEM are the finest Trek films
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I guess Star Trek XV should be great then. If it ever comes out. 
I've a soft spot for TFF. Even lauding aspects that worked, as the movie isn't a total flop.
NEM I am going to reevaluation due to a recent post I made elsewhere. When I saw it last, it was so hit-or-miss.
Fans need not like various entries - this "100% or 0%" is akin to... But a reevaluation of a movie or episode one dislikes never hurts and, who knows, something may stick out in a good way. Or might reinforce what one didn't like about it to begin with. Nobody's mandated to rewatch anything either. It's all good.
NEM I am going to reevaluation due to a recent post I made elsewhere. When I saw it last, it was so hit-or-miss.
Fans need not like various entries - this "100% or 0%" is akin to... But a reevaluation of a movie or episode one dislikes never hurts and, who knows, something may stick out in a good way. Or might reinforce what one didn't like about it to begin with. Nobody's mandated to rewatch anything either. It's all good.
I'm one of the few that actually liked Nemesis when it came out. I was 18, though, so that tempers that opinion. I haven't seen it again in the intervening 18 years. Maybe I should, as a sort of "anniversary" of sorts.
The Final Frontier had a couple of good scenes. A lot was wrong with it, but it had a couple of good scenes.
Unlike Abrams movies, those were just shit through and through.
The Final Frontier had a couple of good scenes. A lot was wrong with it, but it had a couple of good scenes.
Unlike Abrams movies, those were just shit through and through.
I'll watch TFF over TUC any day of the week.
NEM... nope. I've tried. I hated it when it came out and the two times I've tried watching it since then I just gave up.
NEM... nope. I've tried. I hated it when it came out and the two times I've tried watching it since then I just gave up.
I respect that Shatner was actually trying to tell a story about something, but the script and the story just weren't there. Some of it was his fault (letting Ralph Winter hire Bran Ferren to do the VFX), some was out of his control (the WGA strike during the writing period and a Teamsters strike right before location shooting started). There were some good elements — the scene where Sybok tries to explore the pain of McCoy, Spock, and Kirk; Luckinbill's performance overall; Goldsmith's score; Andrew Laszlo's gorgeous cinematography (especially the location work) — but overall it's a big disappointment. But it's a disappointment that tried.
Nemesis wasn't a noble failure, it was just there. It felt tired and phoned in, and Stuart Baird was a shit director. I haven't seen it since opening night. I might finally rewatch it, if only because it served as a jumping-off point for some of the themes in Picard's first season. Otherwise... meh.
Nemesis wasn't a noble failure, it was just there. It felt tired and phoned in, and Stuart Baird was a shit director. I haven't seen it since opening night. I might finally rewatch it, if only because it served as a jumping-off point for some of the themes in Picard's first season. Otherwise... meh.
I legitimately love both and would watch them over the likes of TMP and Insurrection any day
Lol, ok.Anyone who says otherwise isn’t a true Trekkie or Trekker...
Researching the massive amount of blockbuster movies that summer of 1989; it would've been wise for Paramount to release TFF later in the year.
I prefer to pretend TFF never happened.
Jk, it’s not that bad. When I first watched it, it was a massive cringefest for me.
Same!
So true. The original cast is in it. priceless just for that.
Not many of the original cast left.
I liked NEM when it first came out but it has soured over the years, and TFF is just a guilty pleasure. It's fun and has one of the penultimate dramatic scenes for Kirk, Spock and McCoy. The film is a bit all over the map, owning to what the studio wanted vs. what Shatner wanted.
But, I prefer ST 09 to them both.
But, I prefer ST 09 to them both.
TFF is actually pretty fun, and it was to 11-year-old Peach, once she really got into Trek. Adult me can chuckle at unintentional bloopers and nitpick things like, "Didn't they just pass that deck?"
I love that scene. Bloopers and all. It's just pure fun.
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