TFA re-watch observations and nitpicks (Spoilers!!)

[Tuskin38]

More an observation than a nitpick, but this is the first time I noticed the Millennium Falcon has a new satellite dish. Which makes sense, given old dish was clipped off in ROTJ.

Heh really? That was the first thing I noticed in the original trailer.

Likewise, after Starkiller is destroyed and the X-Wing squadron jumps into hyperspace, their S-Foils are in attack position.

No, they're closed, they just do it far away from the camera, here is a screen cap.

Like wise, Poe's S-Foils are not completely closed when he fires, plus you never know, the newer X-Wings may not have the limitation, at least not for torpedos.

 

[Reverend]

I can't see any reason why an X-wing shouldn't be able to launch torpedoes with the s-foils in landing position. I mean the launchers are in the fuselage, no?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

One of the X Wings executes a turn to port whilst inputting a starboard rudder command during the charge into battle on Takodana

 

[Tuskin38]

One of the X Wings executes a turn to port whilst inputting a starboard rudder command during the charge into battle on Takodana

Do you mean the X-Wing looks like its turning one direction but goes the other?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Do you mean the X-Wing looks like its turning one direction but goes the other?

Yes... I have to admit that bloody bothered me something fierce...

 

[Tuskin38]

I just watched the sequence twice and I didn't notice anything. Where on the screen is it?

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

I just watched the sequence twice and I didn't notice anything. Where on the screen is it?

Have not got the DVD yet, so this is the best I can do - from the second trailer

 

[Tuskin38]

He looks fine to me. You don't even see him turn.

I think you're mistaking the turning for Camera panning.

 

[fireproof78]

Heh really? That was the first thing I noticed in the original trailer.



No, they're closed, they just do it far away from the camera, here is a screen cap.

Like wise, Poe's S-Foils are not completely closed when he fires, plus you never know, the newer X-Wings may not have the limitation, at least not for torpedos.

The whole point of the S-foils is to expand the field of fire, as well as allow the heat sinks to operate more efficiently during high fire rate operations.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

He looks fine to me. You don't even see him turn, and is on the screen for like 5 seconds.

It does turn... Its only a small point, I know, but it bugged me on opening night.

Another thing that did, you notice how they took Finn, a recent defector, and take him to meet with the highest members of the Resistance? I know that having Poe vouch for him would carry a lot of weight, but wouldn't you want to check out the truth of his story? Yes, I know they had very little time to do so, but a few questions would not have gone amiss

 

[Tuskin38]

It does turn... Its only a small point, I know, but it bugged me on opening night.

I'm still not seeing it. the only movement I see is the camera moving behind them. I'm running the movie on my PC right now.

Whatever, no use arguing over it.

 

[Richard Baker]

I liked how Poe's X-Wing closed it's foils briefly when he entered that energy controller thing through the narrow gap, then they snapped back open again when he began his attack on the interior.

What I thought was a glimpse of Slave One on that jungle planet during the scene when the Stormtrooper is calling for reinforcements, but it was just a wrecked Special Forces TIE behind him.

That weird bit with Finn/Poe escaping twice from the Star Destroyer jumped out at me when I saw the fil the second time in the theater. They are flying underneath the hull then exit through the side structure. I watched it again closely at home and there is nothing showing outside the hangar entrance except space and stars- how did they get inside the hull later?

 

[Tuskin38]

I noticed Poe said the TIE-Fighter was equipped with Mag-pulses.

Those first appeared in the TIE-Fighter PC game back in '94.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Magnetic_pulse

 

[The Wormhole]

So here's something that's been on my mind. After Starkiller destroys the Hosnian system, it's said the Republic's fleet is also lost. A couple of times, we even hear some of the Resistance folks lamenting the loss of the Republic fleet makes them more vulnerable.

So are we to believe the Republic's entire fleet, in other words the whole space navy was in the Hosnian system? They didn't have any ships deployed on missions or patrols outside the home system? Even if they are uber-pacifists willfully ignorant of the potential threats that exist, not just from the First Order, but also piracy against civilian shipping and all those other things navies do when there isn't an active war going on, there must have been at least a handful of ships outside the Hosnian system, and to those ships the Resistance is now the only game in town. Now maybe they'd be too far away to make a contribution to the Starkiller battle (not likely at Abrams Speed, though) but at the very least it seems very wrong to declare the entire Republic fleet lost.

 

[B.J.]

^ Well, JJ does seem to have a very small view of things. At the end of ST09, the Vulcans were said to be endangered with less than 10k of them left. You'd think they'd have quite a few more than that on other colonies!

 

[Set Harth]

Now maybe they'd be too far away to make a contribution to the Starkiller battle (not likely at Abrams Speed, though)

Making allowances for editing, hyperspace speed in TFA isn't appreciably any faster than what was shown in the prior SW films. He does make his Star Trek ships go at Star Wars speed, though.

 

[Ithekro]

I would think it was the main fleet of capital ships of the Republic. When you aren't fighting a war and don't really have a major enemy to fight, you keep the capital ships in port while the smaller ships do all the patrolling, anti-piracy, and usually showing the flag sort of activities. The Repubic might still have a few of their larger cruisers and frigates running around, but the lament was the lack of major warships since that would be the only thing to take on a superweapon with Star Destroyer escort unless you find a weakness that can be exploited by Starfighters.

The Republic might still have a crap load of Starfighters and lighter warships, but they aren't all that much of a match for the First Order's new Star Destroyers. But we'll see. I am hoping for a good warship fight instead of just Starfighter battles.

 

[Set Harth]

The Republic might still have a crap load of Starfighters

Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case. At one point during the final battle they say they've lost half their starfighters IIRC.

 

[Ithekro]

That was the Resistances fighters. No telling what the Republic might have.

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

I asked Pablo about this and he was kind enough to tell me that most of the Republic fleet was on other missions - the only ships that were lost at the Hosnian System were those that made up a "home fleet" if you will.

It is unknown if Home One was among the ships lost with all hands