I wonder if the plan at the start of Enterprise was to have the Suliban be part of the Romulan Empire, and the war be fought with proxies so you could maintain the silly "no face to face contact" thing with actual combat.
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I don't know about part of the Romulan empire but I do wonder what happened to them or the Xindi since. Were they conquered during the Romulan or Klingon empires various expansions. I wondered the same about the Gorn till they showed up on PIC. Though, one wonders how much of the Hegemony made it that far into the future. They seemed a bigger deal earlier on. And what were the Romulans up to between TUC and TNG's "The Neutral Zone"?
About the Suliban, the fan work The Edge of Midnight covers some of their story in the 23rd century as part of the broader landscape of the quadrant(s), and it's just fantastic -- reads like a real world non-fiction history. There's even an evolving map of the area covered in the continuing story in the Fan Art forum on this site.
I think it's hilarious that you think the producers of Enterprise at any point had a plan.........
Wasn't there in Xindi Starfleet officer in one of the Paramount+ 24the Century shows?
When was there a Gorn in Picard?
I don’t remember. Could mean they’re part of the Federation or that, like Worf, the officer was an outlier. The former is the more hopeful interpretation.
IIRC there was the mention of a “Gorn Egg” while Raffi was analyzing data, and a reference to the Romulans operating in the Gorn Hegemony.
Memory Alpha says there was a Xindi-Insectoid delegate in Discovery season four (the appearance is pretty different), a Xindi-Insectoid Starfleet officer in season five, and a Xindi-Insectoid bar patron in Section 31, as well as a Xindi-Reptillian in Prodigy.
In the fiction, the Federation Minister for Space Exploration (or something like that) at the time the 1701-D launches is a Xindi-Reptilian according to The Sky's the Limit.
Looking it up I remember now why I forgot it lol. I was not a fan of the reimagined Insectoids. Aside from being “insectoid,” they bare little resemblance to the originals or swing nearly as far to realize them. But I mean one bug is as good as another, ammirite my fellow primates?
“Would you like to know more?”
EDIT: in my head canon, those future DSC Insectoids are half Xindi Insectoid, half (or more) something else—Xindi Primate, human, etc.
“Would you like to know more?”
EDIT: in my head canon, those future DSC Insectoids are half Xindi Insectoid, half (or more) something else—Xindi Primate, human, etc.
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Right but there are also a thousand or more Trek aliens to choose from and many more to make up, you know?
I mean, look, I loathed the Xindi Insectoid design (I thought it was Flash Gordon level cheesy and the CG wasn’t good enough), but they really tried for something and gave Trek something other than a dude in latex. To then come back decades later with far, far more budget and far fewer episodes to produce, and come up with a dude not even in latex but just a mask…..I can’t imagine why the ratings weren’t higher.
…but I’m not bitter about it, no.
Apropos of this thread, I was reading Coda, Book II last night, and there's a Xindi-Arboreal officer on Nog's new posting, the USS Saticoy.
More species connected to the Romulan Empire.
The Yuyati, a mute species rescued by Picard and Raffi from the Romulan Supernova in PIC Countdown prequel comic
The Jenjorans, whose homeworld (Jenjor VI) was conquered by the Romulans in 2354, according to the PIC Stargazer prequel comic
The Stellar Kingdom of Corill, whose world was assimilated into the Romulan Star Empire, according the FASA – The Romulans, and FASA – The Romulan Way: Game Operation Manual
The Chodak, from A Final Unity, an ancient spacefaring civilization whose ruins span both sides of the Neutral Zone
The Attrexians, from Star Trek: Elite Force II, whose empire spans both sides of the Neutral Zone
Notable regions
Z’Tarnis Nebula, a Mutara-class nebula located on the edge of the Neutral Zone
Kridnar Navigation Block, which spans between the Z’Tarnis Nebula and the galactic edge
Just because the Suliban Cabal and the Romulans had cloaks does not mean the two are connected.
By that logic, the Xindi-Reptilians got their uniforms from the Remans, and are agents of the Romulan Empire.
Mazarite and Illyrian ships resemble the D’deridex-class warbird. Maybe that’s where the Romulans got it from?
It’s also possible that the Klingons of the 2150s are clandestinely backed by the Romulans, that their fleet are made up of ships of Romulan design, and the Chancellor is Romulan puppet. Also, there was a bed on a Bird of Prey as seen in the Augments trilogy, and its known that Klingons do not sleep on beds.
The Yuyati, a mute species rescued by Picard and Raffi from the Romulan Supernova in PIC Countdown prequel comic
The Jenjorans, whose homeworld (Jenjor VI) was conquered by the Romulans in 2354, according to the PIC Stargazer prequel comic
The Stellar Kingdom of Corill, whose world was assimilated into the Romulan Star Empire, according the FASA – The Romulans, and FASA – The Romulan Way: Game Operation Manual
The Chodak, from A Final Unity, an ancient spacefaring civilization whose ruins span both sides of the Neutral Zone
The Attrexians, from Star Trek: Elite Force II, whose empire spans both sides of the Neutral Zone
Notable regions
Z’Tarnis Nebula, a Mutara-class nebula located on the edge of the Neutral Zone
Kridnar Navigation Block, which spans between the Z’Tarnis Nebula and the galactic edge
Who knows?
Just because the Suliban Cabal and the Romulans had cloaks does not mean the two are connected.By that logic, the Xindi-Reptilians got their uniforms from the Remans, and are agents of the Romulan Empire.
Mazarite and Illyrian ships resemble the D’deridex-class warbird. Maybe that’s where the Romulans got it from?
It’s also possible that the Klingons of the 2150s are clandestinely backed by the Romulans, that their fleet are made up of ships of Romulan design, and the Chancellor is Romulan puppet. Also, there was a bed on a Bird of Prey as seen in the Augments trilogy, and its known that Klingons do not sleep on beds.
