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Texture of the Romulan Star Empire

I wonder if the plan at the start of Enterprise was to have the Suliban be part of the Romulan Empire, and the war be fought with proxies so you could maintain the silly "no face to face contact" thing with actual combat.
 
I wonder if the plan at the start of Enterprise was to have the Suliban be part of the Romulan Empire, and the war be fought with proxies so you could maintain the silly "no face to face contact" thing with actual combat.
I don't know about part of the Romulan empire but I do wonder what happened to them or the Xindi since. Were they conquered during the Romulan or Klingon empires various expansions. I wondered the same about the Gorn till they showed up on PIC. Though, one wonders how much of the Hegemony made it that far into the future. They seemed a bigger deal earlier on. And what were the Romulans up to between TUC and TNG's "The Neutral Zone"?

About the Suliban, the fan work The Edge of Midnight covers some of their story in the 23rd century as part of the broader landscape of the quadrant(s), and it's just fantastic -- reads like a real world non-fiction history. There's even an evolving map of the area covered in the continuing story in the Fan Art forum on this site.
 
I wonder if the plan at the start of Enterprise was to have the Suliban be part of the Romulan Empire, and the war be fought with proxies so you could maintain the silly "no face to face contact" thing with actual combat.
I think it's hilarious that you think the producers of Enterprise at any point had a plan.........
 
I don't know about part of the Romulan empire but I do wonder what happened to them or the Xindi since. Were they conquered during the Romulan or Klingon empires various expansions.
Wasn't there in Xindi Starfleet officer in one of the Paramount+ 24the Century shows?
I wondered the same about the Gorn till they showed up on PIC. Though, one wonders how much of the Hegemony made it that far into the future. They seemed a bigger deal earlier on. And what were the Romulans up to between TUC and TNG's "The Neutral Zone"?
When was there a Gorn in Picard?
 
Wasn't there in Xindi Starfleet officer in one of the Paramount+ 24the Century shows?
I don’t remember. Could mean they’re part of the Federation or that, like Worf, the officer was an outlier. The former is the more hopeful interpretation.

When was there a Gorn in Picard?
IIRC there was the mention of a “Gorn Egg” while Raffi was analyzing data, and a reference to the Romulans operating in the Gorn Hegemony.
 
Wasn't there in Xindi Starfleet officer in one of the Paramount+ 24the Century shows?
Memory Alpha says there was a Xindi-Insectoid delegate in Discovery season four (the appearance is pretty different), a Xindi-Insectoid Starfleet officer in season five, and a Xindi-Insectoid bar patron in Section 31, as well as a Xindi-Reptillian in Prodigy.

In the fiction, the Federation Minister for Space Exploration (or something like that) at the time the 1701-D launches is a Xindi-Reptilian according to The Sky's the Limit.
 
Looking it up I remember now why I forgot it lol. I was not a fan of the reimagined Insectoids. Aside from being “insectoid,” they bare little resemblance to the originals or swing nearly as far to realize them. But I mean one bug is as good as another, ammirite my fellow primates?

“Would you like to know more?”

EDIT: in my head canon, those future DSC Insectoids are half Xindi Insectoid, half (or more) something else—Xindi Primate, human, etc.
 
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Wow, I don't remember seeing them in DSC, but even if I did it never would have occured to me they were supposed to be Xindi-Insectoids. That's gotta be one of the most drastic redesigns we've ever gotten, along with the Gorn.
 
Probably just wanted to save money and not do a fully CG one.
Right but there are also a thousand or more Trek aliens to choose from and many more to make up, you know?

I mean, look, I loathed the Xindi Insectoid design (I thought it was Flash Gordon level cheesy and the CG wasn’t good enough), but they really tried for something and gave Trek something other than a dude in latex. To then come back decades later with far, far more budget and far fewer episodes to produce, and come up with a dude not even in latex but just a mask…..I can’t imagine why the ratings weren’t higher.

…but I’m not bitter about it, no.
 
Apropos of this thread, I was reading Coda, Book II last night, and there's a Xindi-Arboreal officer on Nog's new posting, the USS Saticoy.
 
Wow, I don't remember seeing them in DSC, but even if I did it never would have occured to me they were supposed to be Xindi-Insectoids. That's gotta be one of the most drastic redesigns we've ever gotten, along with the Gorn.
I suspect they just had an ant head makeup and someone was like, "hey, let's make it a Xindi! They have giant ants!"
 
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