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Terminator VI

That's why I was SO disappointed in Salvation. The T2 future war was what I wanted it to be! Lots of blue filter, phase plasma rifles and T-800 endoskeletons blasting everything in sight!
That was the one thing that bothered me most about Salvation, it didn't look anything like what we saw in the flashbacks in the earlier movies.
 
I just conjecture that it looks that way in 2018 because of two reasons:

1.) When the timeline was changed by the events in the first two films and Judgment Day's date was altered from 1997 to 2005 it resulted in a new series of events that led to the war unfolding in a slightly different way than it did in flashbacks from the original movies.

2.) 2018 is still 11 years from the earliest flashbacks we saw in T1 and T2 and it's possible that the human resistance doesn't yet have access to the plasma weapons and sidearms that we see being used in those scenes. Those could be weapons that existed only under the conditions of the original timeline.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if future John never actually was John Connor, but just used that cover name to let the machines chase after people who had nothing to do with it? Kinda like Sisko replacing Gabriel Bell and ending up in the history books with his picture and fake name.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if future John never actually was John Connor, but just used that cover name to let the machines chase after people who had nothing to do with it? Kinda like Sisko replacing Gabriel Bell and ending up in the history books with his picture and fake name.
John Conner: the kind of fake name a James Bond fan might come up with. :shifty:
 
John would have to have had photos of all 5 LA Sarah Conors, and handed them to his top lieutenants as mastubation aids, so that they would be all in to save their Sarah when they each got to 1984.
 
John would have to have had photos of all 5 LA Sarah Conors, and handed them to his top lieutenants as mastubation aids, so that they would be all in to save their Sarah when they each got to 1984.
The thing is..the first Terminator played it as a time loop. Nothing actually changed , as far as John Conner was concerned. Now, it might have somehow changed Skynet's strategy..and set up multiple tine machines or something

T2 introduced us to changes
 
T2 was designed to end the story. T3 told us that the future cannot be changed, only delayed. This new t3 just reinforced this, and had Sarah so jaded that she no longer cared about trying to prevent that future.
 
It's more like you can stop certain things from happening. You just can't stop people from making stupid decisions like putting an AI with no safeguards in charge of defense. But thankfully you can't stop humanity's better nature to rise up and drag us out the darkness to fight against our mistakes and worst impulses. It's not so much that it's our fate to be destroyed by our creations, it just that we keep making creations that can destroy us.
 
John Connor in T2: "We're not gonna make it...are we? People, I mean."
T-800: "It is in your nature to destroy yourselves."
 
To a certain extent, that's life. You may be able to save humanity from Skynet, but it's naive to think that single act would save humanity for all time. It's a never-ending project. To use the Biblical analogy Terminator is so fond of, the day of the Lord comes as a thief in the night. Two men stand in a field, one will be taken, one will be left behind. People will tell you it's about the end of the world, but it's really about mortality and the mystery of death. Nobody knows when, nobody knows how, but it's coming, and the best you can do is try and keep it from coming today.

I saw it once pointed out that this is kind of endemic to science fiction and fantasy in a way that'd be absurd in other genres. "The detective broke up the drug cartel, and that was the end of all crime forever." But you show that a sci-fi hero "only" ensured twenty or thirty years of peace and prosperity, and you're denigrating the original story and dismissing the old heroes and so on and so forth.
 
It's more like you can stop certain things from happening. You just can't stop people from making stupid decisions like putting an AI with no safeguards in charge of defense. But thankfully you can't stop humanity's better nature to rise up and drag us out the darkness to fight against our mistakes and worst impulses. It's not so much that it's our fate to be destroyed by our creations, it just that we keep making creations that can destroy us.
Even if we don't do it in the 21st century, those morons in Section 31 do it in the 23rd.
 
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