Terminator VI

Wasn't Salvation supposedly ruined by Christian Bale turning it into "Christian Bale's Terminator Movie Starring Christian Bale"?

 

No, the script did all the ruining on its own just fine.

 

Linda Hamilton hasn't even aged badly at all. She looks perfecly fine, for a sixty-year old. No, she isn't one of those rare genetic freaks who still look 20 years younger than they are - but most people aren't.

Meanwhile Harrison Ford is pushing eighty, starting to look borderline skeletal, and people are still pushing for him to reprise his (very action heavy) famous roles again.

 

We need a scene of Sarah Connor defeating a T-800 with a rolling pin.

 

I have the same opinion. I have enough of the "We have to stop Judgements Day", They have tried it in three movies and it failed. I am more interested In movies after Judgement day, how Conner became the resistant leader and defeated the Terminators.

 

There are comics, lots of comics. (that have been bound into omnibuses, or can be found in the usual places.)

I recall once where Rachel Brewster died in the bunker and he still had to stay down there for a couple more years with her corpse stinking up the place... Actually, he probably put it in furnace or a freezer, but it was no doubt still fricking traumatizing.

 

Katherine Brewster.

And I'm appalled at the thread title. Appalled, I tell you! Terminator films do not use roman numerals.

 

A movie daring to be different is a fantastic start. But never enough if they don't follow through with the rest of the movie.

I remember watching that movie and you could almost see while watching it where the script deviated from their original ideas to what we got, for example, things felt more daring and original to lead to Worthington's character "becoming" Connor, and it felt like that's where it was going and that would have been a great subversion to the rest of the franchise and what we knew. Then it didn't.

At least now, we finally have Cameron back in the driver's seat, and I'm excited.

 

I disagree. If anything, they haven't tried hard ENOUGH to stop it.

(That's also why I didn't care for 12 Monkeys.)

 

But don't you know? Old and action hero is great for men, but not for women!

 

I fully admit it had its flaws, yet I still feel it was better than any of the recent retreads. And maybe it did deviate from its original intention, but at least it still felt like an original story within the Terminator franchise, exploring something we hadn't yet seen but often heard talked about, and I'm of the feeling it finally felt like a sci-fi movie again, following T and T2. Also felt that the way it was directed helped set it apart. If you're trying to set a tone, sometimes that can be a good thing

In comparison, Genisys felt more like science-fantasy with all of the ridiculous rehashing. All this rehashing feels like Trek's current obsession with revisiting Kahn. At some point, you know you've got to let go, move forward and tell new stories. Otherwise nobody's going to respect you.

 

T2 was great, but there have to be other kinds of stories you can tell in the Terminator universe.

 

Exactly. Both T and T2 showed a great potential for things to explore, yet it's been frustrating to see the franchise spin its wheels for some time.

 

If not Linda, then Lena Headey looks like this now.

 

I'm bored of being attracted to beautiful women.

Where's the thrill, where's the chase?

A movie about Dr Silbermans mental breakdown, tour on the "experiencers" convention circuit, recover and fall would be nice. It's like every time he gets back to sane somehow, time traveling robots derail his life.

 

I think would be cool to see a Terminator movie set further in the past, like, before the proliferation of gunpowder firearms. Just have a plain old skin-covered robot and the unfortunate Beowulf-ass losers who have to kill it. The cool thing is, not much of the stuff we know to work on a T-800 existed back then (pipe bombs, sniper rifles, etc.), so it'd take a HELL of a lot of work to put it down.

 

How about a Terminator film focusing on the Machine Rebellion (from the TV series) rather than the Human Resistance?

 

The final plan of skynet must have been to go back in time itself inside a whale.

Or up the but holes of thousand of humans.

Ruling a dead earth is for shit.

 

Basically this. Rather that was one part of the problem. Salvation was originally conceived to start a future trilogy with Marcus as the center character and John Connor basically being little more than a shadowy figure throuhought the film you'd barely see until the end. McG courted Bale to play in the film for the lead role which was Marcus... but Bale being a big Terminator fan just wanted to play John Connor and nothing else, so they litterally rewrote the screenplay to shoehorn John into it. In addition the original ending leaked on the internet and was destroyed which send the studio into PANIC MODE to change everything and also cut the whole original twist about "Project Angel" that was to give a much bigger role to Helena Bonham Carter and basically twist Terminator into something else. There was this line in the promo with John going "This isn't the future my mother told me about' and that was what the film was building at, but it was cut of course . If they'd stick to the original thing that would have been highly controversial for sure but I think it would have been a much more solid film. There was an article at CHUD detailing this years years back and either way that was a interesting read.

-Sergorn

 

I disagree that it would have been more solid. A solid turd maybe.