• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Terminator Could Really Happen

Ahhh... it's FOUR laws of robotics.... asimov revised it...

4) a robot may not harm humanity or allow humanity to come to harm as long as it doesn't break the first three laws....


But that all lasts the ten seconds it takes for a religious nutter President to type in the code that identifies everyone but him as Godless Infidels. As soon as that gets uploaded the Bot turns on the bus load of school children.

The real reason for Millitary bots is this. The USA, Australia, and the assorted other tyrannies masquerading as Democracies are going to have to surrender territory consistent with their percentage of the global population. If you have used your share of the resources, You will be expected to die, not go looking for more.
In light of such a "reality" it falls on states to secure what they can take by force when the haves refuse to sell it for worthless currency.

In the end the Bot will be used by Paranoid christian minority rule states to police the Billion non-christian Populations they are going to have forced on them as Citizens.

Australia is opposed to the construction of a City for a Billion people in the Desert because 1,000,000 loyal policemen cannot possibly police 1,000,000,000 disloyal citizens. They have already abandoned the laws which required asking me and every citizen for our direct and regular approval regarding every act of Government, Law, Constitution, and Sovereign, and replaced it with "Do as you are told or we shoot you" laws.
 
This is new? The movie is 25 years old and people back then clearly saw the path we were going down.

Live everyday as it is your last because everyday is the first day of the rest of your life, except the day you die.
25 years ago I would have rolled my eyes at you if you said we'd have flat panel monitors, streaming Internet video, and a phone the size of a pack of cigarettes.

This was not "evident" and don't try to claim it was. The original movie was Sci-Fi and it's interesting the reality could imitate art.
Why, 30 years ago we moved from punch cards and computer rooms to the PC. Car phones were appearing and while the first mobile phones were the size of WWII walkie talkies all thought they would get smaller. James Bond, Maxwell Smart's shoe phone? I was just surprised that they got so small that people raised on typewriters and rotary phones could get used to a key pad smaller then their finger pad. Then the flips and slides came in and the detached earpiece so the phone could get larger.

As for the Terminators. In the army we were getting the first generation of super weapons. We called M1 crews Jedi and M60 crews dinosaurs because if the computer and laser was up a M1 did not miss. First round steel on target on anything the crew could see. The Army tankers and Marine reservist who went to Desert Storm expected first round hits, their thermal sites insured that they got them before the Republican Guard even knew they were in the area.
 
Ever play a First Person Shooter in story mode or against bots? Ever notice how incredibly stupid the computer-controled characters are? Yeah, that's why we don't have robots making battlefield decisions. We could have that now, but even the best AI is ultimately limited to the tactics that a programmer took the time to give it. In the end, you'll have very accurate machines that are constantly destroyed by human insurgents who simply memorized their patterns.
 
^ That is a standard AI. We're talking about a type of AI that has learned to think for itself and can adapt to the situation and environments its presented. Then you have a problem.
 
I, for one, am glad I live near a major metropolitan area that will be taken out in the first wave of a nuclear assault.

Besides, I could never survive post-apocalypse. No TV, computer, electricity, Star Trek, Battlestar, or good food. I'm not tough enough to live in a world like that, lol.
 
Ever play a First Person Shooter in story mode or against bots? Ever notice how incredibly stupid the computer-controled characters are? Yeah, that's why we don't have robots making battlefield decisions. We could have that now, but even the best AI is ultimately limited to the tactics that a programmer took the time to give it. In the end, you'll have very accurate machines that are constantly destroyed by human insurgents who simply memorized their patterns.

Almost across the board bots are pretty stupid - you can rely on them to behave in a certain way that you can usually quite quickly learn to exploit. But they still have a reaction time so incredibly quick it needs to be slowed down in most cases for us humans to even have a fighting chance.

Couple that with cutting edge advances in computer design-architecture (quantum computers, quasi-biological neural-nets etc), AI learning routines and whatnot and the rules may change a bit.
 
It's nothing to worry about. In the real world, the programming of Killer-robots would be littered with pop-up advertisements and before it struck it would pause for an "important message" from its sponsor. You just run away at that point.
 
if all the bots are S.A.I.N.T prototypes then we have nothing to fear

a little electric shock and we've got a hilarious situation about a robot that won't kill in the middle east.

"No disassemble Mutad Al Sayid!"
 
Ahhh... it's FOUR laws of robotics.... asimov revised it...

4) a robot may not harm humanity or allow humanity to come to harm as long as it doesn't break the first three laws....

Other way around. That's law 0, not law 4, and it has no dependencies on the other three.
 
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top