Terminator-202 "Automatic For the People" - Discuss/Grade <SPO>

[nx1701g]

^ I was just thinking about something. Did the Connors really beat Skynet by preventing the meltdown? In the original timeline the power plant didn't have the automated systems designed by Skynet. Now it would. By having it fully automated the Resistance can't use it in the future any longer and those people still lost their jobs and screwed with our economy (what I'm a Democrat). I think, in this case, the Connors played right into Skynet's hands.

Uh, those automated systems have nothing to tell about where the power goes to; cut power lines to Skynet and lead them to where only you want them to, and those automated systems matter not. Also, systems can be shut down, taken out, replaced, etc. I don't see it as doing much.

Skynet would most likely have a connection directly into the hardware of the facility to control what was going on with energy generation. If you listened the facility was going to full automated control and wasn't going to have employees anymore. There is no guarantee that it would even have a control room any longer (a similar storyline was shown in the novel T2: Infiltrator in which the I-950 arranged for several facilities to be controlled only through automation including energy generation facilities and weapons production that were controlled by a prototype T-800 control matrix.

Indeed, I don't think the T-1000 is even on Skynet's side. It seems to me it's got its own agenda.

I'm mixed on that.

 

[3D Master]

^ I was just thinking about something. Did the Connors really beat Skynet by preventing the meltdown? In the original timeline the power plant didn't have the automated systems designed by Skynet. Now it would. By having it fully automated the Resistance can't use it in the future any longer and those people still lost their jobs and screwed with our economy (what I'm a Democrat). I think, in this case, the Connors played right into Skynet's hands.

Uh, those automated systems have nothing to tell about where the power goes to; cut power lines to Skynet and lead them to where only you want them to, and those automated systems matter not. Also, systems can be shut down, taken out, replaced, etc. I don't see it as doing much.

Skynet would most likely have a connection directly into the hardware of the facility to control what was going on with energy generation. If you listened the facility was going to full automated control and wasn't going to have employees anymore. There is no guarantee that it would even have a control room any longer (a similar storyline was shown in the novel T2: Infiltrator in which the I-950 arranged for several facilities to be controlled only through automation including energy generation facilities and weapons production that were controlled by a prototype T-800 control matrix.

And if necessary you can destroy these and go back to a more manual control method.

 

[David cgc]

I also miss Cheri Westin. I have the feeling they'll be dropping the ball on a lot of the loose ends of the first season.

It makes even less sense of John in the future doesn't "currently" remember the events from the show then if he does. What's the point of any of this time travel if it can't change the future?

Aren't these sort of contradictory? If future John remembers everything that happened in the past, then changing things seems kind of moot. It wouldn't be changing things so much as fulfilling a destiny.

No. He remembers them now because the future has been changed, and future John has changed with it.

Exactly. It seems that every trip into the past creates a new generation of the future based on what it changed, so each new batch of time-travelers is from a different version of the future. Kyle Reese and the movie terminators were all from a generation where Judgement Day happened in 1997. Cameron, Cromartie, the unnamed engineer, and probably Vick and Carter all came from the generation that resulted from the changes in the timeline made in Terminator 2, where Judgement Day happened in 2011. Derek's group came back from the next generation after that one, caused by Cameron's time-jump in the series premiere. The ersatz Carl and possibly the T-1001 are from the latest generation, after Derek killed Andy Goode.

 

[nx1701g]

Uh, those automated systems have nothing to tell about where the power goes to; cut power lines to Skynet and lead them to where only you want them to, and those automated systems matter not. Also, systems can be shut down, taken out, replaced, etc. I don't see it as doing much.

Skynet would most likely have a connection directly into the hardware of the facility to control what was going on with energy generation. If you listened the facility was going to full automated control and wasn't going to have employees anymore. There is no guarantee that it would even have a control room any longer (a similar storyline was shown in the novel T2: Infiltrator in which the I-950 arranged for several facilities to be controlled only through automation including energy generation facilities and weapons production that were controlled by a prototype T-800 control matrix.

And if necessary you can destroy these and go back to a more manual control method.

Maybe, maybe not. I'm not going to engage in a debate with you over it.

 

[nx1701g]

Episode now available for viewing online

On a lighter note: I took another test drive of the 2009 Dodge Ram today. I love it - except for the payment... $657 a month with $8,000 down.

 

[Samurai8472]

that was the truck Derek drove right? The advertising got to you! Maybe your hiding a nissan versa, toyota tundra and Ford mustang!

 

[nx1701g]

^ Actually I have a 2007 on a lease and my lease expires in a few months (but I had been told it was terminated - pardon the pun - a month ago and was looking at new Rams which was why I was looking at the 2009s). Since I liked my 2007 so much (and the payments between this new one and my 07 would only be different by around $75) I decided to get a new one. I had already requested more information on the 1500 prior to it being on TSCC.

 

[Tim]

Well, I've decided to be a whore for product placement and enter the Ram sweepstakes on the Terminator site at Fox.

So, when I win, Summer Glau comes with the truck. Right? Right?!

 

[Idoliside]

Well, I've decided to be a whore for product placement and enter the Ram sweepstakes on the Terminator site at Fox.

So, when I win, Summer Glau comes with the truck. Right? Right?!

Yeah she runs you over and tells your patner to come with her if she wants to live...


Sorry man...

 

[nx1701g]

Well, I've decided to be a whore for product placement and enter the Ram sweepstakes on the Terminator site at Fox.

So, when I win, Summer Glau comes with the truck. Right? Right?!

I think we all wish that she would...

 

[Tim]

Well, I've decided to be a whore for product placement and enter the Ram sweepstakes on the Terminator site at Fox.

So, when I win, Summer Glau comes with the truck. Right? Right?!

I think we all wish that she would...

You could buy a cardboard cutout to put in your new truck.

 

[nx1701g]

^ I could, but I won't.