Taylor Swift covers Eminem's "Lose Yourself" at concert

[gh4chiefs]

Who doesn't like Taylor Swift? I have had a respect for her since revealing once I think on a Much Live appearance that she doesn't apologize for writing about only one topic, she stated she writes what she knows and that is relationships and heart break. Gotta respect an artist who is honest. Plus she's got some catchy songs.

I think she's ridiculously boring and mediocre.

(Shrugs)

+1 She can't sing. Not a lick. And I'm not sure who told her she can. On an album, in the studio where she can be auto-tuned, she's okay. But you watch her in a live performance, OMG she's awful.

 

[CaptainCanada]

I find her persona so artificial and gimmicky that I don't have much interest in the artist herself.

Bingo. Gaga is nothing more than an adult Hannah Montana, and the only real difference between them really is that Miley Cyrus isn't butt-ugly.

That's...not what I said. I like a number of her songs.

 

[Saxman1]

Swift's father is a multi-millionaire business guy. That's why she made it. Her songs all sound the same and yes, she owes her career to auto-tuning. I've never heard her sing on-key on a live performance.

Gaga is already starting to fade, being eclipsed by Katy Perry. Next year it will be someone else. That's how it goes in the disposable pop star market. How many at-one-time-big recording acts sustained a career for an entire decade after having some hit singles? Not that many. People always move on to the next fad. It happens to bands with lots of talent. Look at Chicago, one of the biggest hit makers in the 1970s. Their guitarist Terry Kath died and there was a slump until hooking up with mega producer David Foster for two of the biggest hit albums of the early/mid 1980s. They managed a handful of hit singles after that but basically couldn't get arrested after 1990 and have been touring as an oldies act since.

 

[Mach5]

That's...not what I said. I like a number of her songs.

I kinda like Poker face. But I also think Miley Cyrus has two or three OK songs too. The one where she performs in front of the American flag, for example, isn't any worse than anything Gaga ever recorded, IMO.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Swift's father is a multi-millionaire business guy. That's why she made it.

That may have helped her get a foot in the door, but it doesn't account for the massive success she's had in sales and touring. A lot of progeny of rich parents, indeed of rich and famous parents, have tried their luck at entertainment careers with middling to zero success.

 

[Saxman1]

Swift's father is a multi-millionaire business guy. That's why she made it.

That may have helped her get a foot in the door, but it doesn't account for the massive success she's had in sales and touring. A lot of progeny of rich parents, indeed of rich and famous parents, have tried their luck at entertainment careers with middling to zero success.

That's kind of what I meant to say, that her father helped her get a foot in the door, certainly a factor, but not the only one. Thank you.

 

[Mach5]

A lot of progeny of rich parents, indeed of rich and famous parents, have tried their luck at entertainment careers with middling to zero success.

Yeah, like Rebeca Black etc...

Wait... Wasn't "Friday" HUGE on iTunes? Never mind.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Yeah, like Rebeca Black etc...

Wait... Wasn't "Friday" HUGE on iTunes? Never mind.

It got a huge number of views on YouTube, but it wasn't huge on iTunes, no (see here).

 

[Vendikarr]

That being said, I actually kinda like Katy Perry, but don't care enough to do a research on where she went to school and to whom she gives money to. I do know that she's married to that annoying guy from Forgetting Sarah Marshall, but that's her business, not mine (she could be married to Justin Beiber, for all I care).

All I care about is that she kissed a girl and she liked it.

 

[barnaclelapse]

I think she's ridiculously boring and mediocre.

Almost everyone is mediocre these days. And this Lose yourself thing, plus the fact that she did SNL and whatnot kinda make her less boring than the most, IMO.

*shrugs*

It's all just a matter of opinion. People like her? Awesome. My opinion only means anything to myself. All I'm prepared to do is give my opinion (that I'd rather jab forks into each eye, and run naked through Wal-Mart singing the "Popeye" song, than listen to even one of her songs ever again) and leave it at that.

There's actually a lot of really great music going on out there right now. It's just that a lot of people (again, my opinion, and I'm singling out anyone on this forum in particular) are willing to settle for whatever they're told to like by the media.

 

[Amaris]

No resentment here. Just a repudiation of the uninformed statement that she and "Hannah Montana" were almost exactly alike.

You may have taken that just a tad too far. I was only referring to "the product". They're both playing similar roles, acting as fake as they can with all the wardrobe, cheap on-stage gimmicks and whatnot. They're both hard working professionals, and people often don't give enough credit to Miley for all that she's done (not many people can handle all that pressure and hard work, and it's VERY hard work, make no mistake).

AFAIK, Miley Cyrus also wrote some of her own songs.

So you disrespect the artists for creating their products, but then, at the same time, you respect the artists for the hard work they put into creating their products.

Okay.

 

[Mach5]

So you disrespect the artists for creating their products, but then, at the same time, you respect the artists for the hard work they put into creating their products.

let me put it this way. A guy comes to you and says "I'm looking for shit, pure shit, and I'm willing to pay top dollar", and you just happen to be the brilliant MIT graduate, able to build all kinds of cool stuff so you think "hey, I could use my skills to build a shit-making machine, manufacture tones of pure shit and get really rich, fast." I could certainly appreciate your effort and accomplishment, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a shit maker, does it?

 

[Amaris]

So you disrespect the artists for creating their products, but then, at the same time, you respect the artists for the hard work they put into creating their products.

let me put it this way. A guy comes to you and says "I'm looking for shit, pure shit, and I'm willing to pay top dollar", and you just happen to be the brilliant MIT graduate, able to build all kinds of cool stuff so you think "hey, I could use my skills to build a shit-making machine, manufacture tones of pure shit and get really rich, fast." I could certainly appreciate your effort and accomplishment, but it doesn't change the fact that you're a shit maker, does it?

Oh, I get what you're saying. I was just clarifying your position.

 

[Sakrysta]

I love this song of Jason Robert Brown's. There are probably 3 people on this board who even know who he is, but he's a brilliant songwriter, composer, and musician who has done a lot of Broadway stuff. This song, "Getting Out", is from his own album Wearing Someone Else's Clothes:

Marco plays piano.
Marco’s twenty-one.
Marco is a former junkie
And a Danish actor’s son.
Marco dates a model.
Marco’s very tall.
Marco got a deal with Sony
And a gig at Carnegie Hall,

And I’m getting out.
I can tell these walls are just too high to climb.
I’m getting out.
I could work it, but I’d just be wasting time.
Just look away –
He may never be Cole Porter,
But he knows a bunch of words that sorta rhyme.
You could be blessed with perfect pitch,
You could be pretty, you could be rich,
You could get burned and you could just bitch,
But I am getting out.

Marco does a concert,
Lines around the block.
Girls are there with their midriffs bare
And the boys in a state of shock.
They sell posters and coasters
And monogrammed toasters,
They’re raking in the bucks.
With everyone so happy,
Why complain that the music sucks?

I’m getting out,
Leave a little room, I’ll take my final bow,
‘Cause I’m getting out.
It’s too late to find a plastic surgeon now.
I just walk away –
After all, if fame is fleeting,
I’m too old to be competing anyhow.
You might have traded your guts for gold,
You might be missing the soul you sold,
You might wanna die before you get old,
But I am getting out.

It’s nice to be in Naples.
It’s nice to be at peace .
I’ve really had a lovely trip,
But I’m ripping up my lease,

And I’m getting out!
I have never been so bored out of my mind!
I’m getting out!
I’m escaping from this Hell that I’ve designed!
I walked away,
But I guess I’ve gotten tougher,
‘Cause I’m goin’ back to suffer with my kind.
Maybe you think I haven’t grown,
Maybe it’s what you’ve always known,
But if I can’t whine and piss and moan,
Then I am getting out!
I’m getting out!
I’m getting out!

I love every word of it. Go find it somewhere and listen to it, because his performance makes it even better.

As for Taylor Swift, I'm glad she's successful, as she seems nice and is a good role model for young girls. But she's kinda the "Marco" in JRB's song too. She doesn't sing very well, and her songs all sound unfinished - like they just needed a really good poet to share his rhyming dictionary and sense of meter with her.

 

[Mach5]

as she seems nice and is a good role model for young girls.

Yeah, I wonder how many of her fans became bulimic wanting to be like her...

Oh, wait, that's not exactly funny.

But hey, there's hardly a good range of positive role models out there. Like aforementioned Miley Cyrus who was all about family values and being a good Christian and whatnot, until those "racy" photos of hers emerged online, starting a scandal that apparently set her off on a trip down to Britneyland.

So all things considered, Swift really does appear to be a positive role model.

 

[FPAlpha]

With Miley Cyrus it is the standard breakout model that gets applied to teenager idols who are nice, moral, next door girls. Christina Aguilera did it, Britney did it and now Miley.. it is purely fabricated by the management to show they are "different" now and have grown up.. as if every early 20s woman acts and dresses like a skank and this is the standard

After this phase ends the management will find a new role as time progressess (and if the woman remains in the business and is in demand) so we can safely settle in a 2 year rotation of character coinciding with the release of a new album.

 

[Saxman1]

With Miley Cyrus it is the standard breakout model that gets applied to teenager idols who are nice, moral, next door girls. Christina Aguilera did it, Britney did it and now Miley.. it is purely fabricated by the management to show they are "different" now and have grown up.. as if every early 20s woman acts and dresses like a skank and this is the standard

After this phase ends the management will find a new role as time progressess (and if the woman remains in the business and is in demand) so we can safely settle in a 2 year rotation of character coinciding with the release of a new album.

Bridgette Medley, the lead of "Good Luck, Charlie," the latest awful, brain-dead parents Disney Channel Original Series, seems to be primed to take over for Cyrus (like her, mediocre actress and singer).

Cyrus is lately getting headlines for being in a contest with her mom for who can get the most tattoos. I guess that's supposed to be edgy or something.

Of course, there's always Selena Gomez, Bieber's current flame, who seems to be everywhere with her synth-pop. Lately they've been pushing her to more edgy videos now that she's 17 or 18, with the raccoon eye makeup and grungy/punk clothes, which don't fit her frothy pop bon-bons.

 

[Jetfire]

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Taylor Swift Wardrobe Malfunction

I saw this on Yahoo! and I don't get the big deal...she is wearing underwear.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

^^^
And very modest underwear at that.

 

[CorporalClegg]

^^^
And very modest underwear at that.

I think it only adds to the adorableness.