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TATV

Salinga said:
The problem I had with TATV was that it felt like a clipshow although it wasn't. :vulcan:


And from the looks of things, there are also those who feel the viewers/fans got clipped. :p
 
Nebusj said:
Number6 said:
The fact that people like to dwell on and complain about this stuff constantly says a lot about the state of fandom.
Yeah, it's like they were the last movie or TV show episode, and people are ignoring all the original Trek to come out after both that deserve our attention.


Ummm....

TATV actually WAS the last piece of Trek produced. There hasn't been any since then. :(
 
as others have said it dosnt fit in with pegasus at all. we see in pegasus why will chose to do what he did and it wasnt becuase he kept on runing back to the holodeck to play chef.

to me it is a holo deck recreation all the way through including the tng segments to discredit will by crafting a lie about why he turned against pressman.
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Ummm....

TATV actually WAS the last piece of Trek produced. There hasn't been any since then.

You have a firm grasp of the obvious.
That was his point.
'Twas sarcasm.
 
Number6 said:
The fact that people like to dwell on and complain about this stuff constantly says a lot about the state of fandom.

Absolutely, though I wonder if Trek fandom was ever *really* better.



As for TATV, it was clearly and ENT episode (though with a lot of screen time devoted to TNG characters). If I wanted more discussion of TATV, I'd go to the ENT forum.
 
It was clearly an ENT ep, I admit. But no one can argue the fact that the whole episode took place aboard the 1701-D in the 24th century. So I am going to place in in the TNG timeline whenever I think about it. And if I'm ever asked on a game show how many eps of TNG there were, I'm going to say 176 with an *.
 
Number6 said:
ssosmcin said:
Number6 said:
I think there are more than enough TATV SUX threads in this universe. Another one is completely superfluous.

They still pale in number compared to the hundreds of tired "Nemesis Sucks" threads polluting the Movies forum.

Are we trying to catch up here??

There are worse moments in sci-fi than TATV and NEM..
and worse moments in Star Trek.

The fact that people like to dwell on and complain about this stuff constantly says a lot about the state of fandom.

You're preaching to the choir, my friend. Every time another hate thread for TATV or NEM goes up, I roll my eyes.

AH well. :scream:
 
God. This episode SUCKED!!! I finally actually saw it for the first time, last night! Of course, I read "The Good That Men Do" first. It is the first novel I've read that really has become my internal canon. To my mind, it's how things happened.

The acting of Riker and Troi is really stilted... and Riker looks way too old. Why couldn't they just set that episode during his captaincy of the Titan?!

And it rings really hollow and untrue. Plus, YES! I DID see Trip wink and smile at Archer... and we never really saw him die.

On the plus side... I'll take almost any chance to see some of Shran.
 
fascinoma said:
Why couldn't they just set that episode during his captaincy of the Titan?!

That's the question I'm asking myself over and over again. It would haven been so much easier to set the episode into the post Nemesis era instead of contradicting virtually everything that happened in the original Pegasus episode.
 
Yeah; it also would have worked better as a coda for all of Star Trek from TNG through to Enterprise if "These Are the Voyages" had been set after Nemesis aboard the Titan. It would have been the last glimpse we got of 24th century Star Trek, chronologically. (I'm not counting time travel episodes!)

Why on earth did they set it during an episode that a great many of the viewers probably didn't even recognize-- when it didn't even fit there to begin with?

Of course, this is just one of many problems with that finale.
 
My problem was that I DID recognize what eisode it was, and I couldn't imagine how anyone in their right mind would place such an assinine plot in the middle of that ep!
 
^ Exactly. There's a personal dilemma for Riker to sort out, a mission to complete to retrieve the Pegasus, and the Romulans hanging around out there.

And you're hanging around playing grabass on the holodeck? What is he Barclay all of the sudden? That's so out of character for Riker.
 
Scene: The USS Ticonderoga in the Pacific. A chinese guided misile cruiser is lurking around, subtley threatening them. Suddemly it makes amove toward them. The captain turns to his XO to issue an order - and the XO isn't there. the captain screams "Where is he!?"

The helmsman answers, "He locked himself in his room to play a few rounds of battleship, sir."

:borg:
 
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