TAS made real....

[Warped9]

The two Starfleet freighters shown in TAS look like a good measure of consistent thought went into their designs. Maybe they’re not what Matt Jefferies would have done, but they look reasonably consistent with TOS extrapolated from the two sole examples we have of Starfleet design in TOS: the Enterprise and the Galileo.

If you squint there is some basic similarity between the robot freighter and Cyrano Jones’ ship—a play on the shape of the Enterprise’s secondary hull with the bulk up front and a cutout or fantail on the aft end with nacelles fixed above. The freighter Huron is also somewhat similar only reversed in orientation with the bulk of the ship aft rather than forward.

It looks as if the illustrator took that basic shape of the Enterprise’s secondary hull and played with it to create different variations and interpretations—not a bad approach resulting in something that evokes a small degree of familiarity while looking almost completely new.

 

[Warped9]

I have just started to model the robot freighter, and studying the orthos (supplied by Maurice upthread) there are lines and proportions that don’t line up while others do. It’s not catastrophic, but it gives one pause.

And, yes, I will be making some small tweaks like rounding off some edges in some places.

 

[Warped9]

And so we begin. For those who might notice I've rounded off some corners and edges because I felt it was just a bit too sharp edged and blocky I have also tried to clean up some of the lines. The orthos available has inconsistencies in how things are supposed to line up. Also sometimes there are lines where there needn'y be any and sometimes lines are missing where they should be.

 

[137th Gebirg]

Good start. It's already quite recognizable.

 

[Atolm]

Amazing work on Mudd's ship, and I cannot wait to see the freighter completed

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Yeah, Cyrano's ship came out great.

 

[Warped9]

I haven’t made Mudd’s ship. I made Cyrano Jones’.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I haven’t made Mudd’s ship. I made Cyrano Jones’.

D'oh! I just unthinkingly repeated the error.

 

[Warped9]

Mudd had a ship at the beginning of “Mudd’s Passion” (I assume it was stolen), but I can’t recall what it looked like. I recall the shuttlecraft he stole from the Enterprise.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Mudd had a ship at the beginning of “Mudd’s Passion” (I assume it was stolen), but I can’t recall what it looked like. I recall the shuttlecraft he stole from the Enterprise.

Yeah. It's mentioned in dialog as where he's keeping the love crystals (and possibly also to where the illusory woman is inviting the miner). But when they're beamed aboard from Motherlode, Mudd says that Kirk cost him his ship, so evidently they left it behind; possibly it's arranged for it to be confiscated/recovered. I would assume that Mudd's request to get love potion from the ship was a ruse to try to escape, since he already had some with him. I don't recall a frame where the ship is unambiguously a ship parked near Mudd. There are ships parked near the theater where Mudd is speaking, though.

http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/blu-ray/110-BR/mudds-passion-hd-013.jpg
http://tas.trekcore.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=52
http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/TAS008.htm

If I were forced to guess, I would guess it's the ship in the foreground nearest to the crowd.

 

[Warped9]

Making progress.

 

[Shaw]

I love all this work that you are doing here, but I think I'll ask the question that is on most of our minds... Are you going to apply digital fur technology to make M'Ress?

 

[Redfern]

...I'll ask the question that is on most of our minds... Are you going to apply digital fur technology to make M'Ress?

Hey! Bugging forum members about M'Ress...that's my shtick!

A bit more seriously, I can't recall, Warped9, what modeling and render suite do you use? If Blender, well, it does have a rather decent "fur" shader. A couple of years ago an artist used it to create a rather screen accurate model of Judy Hopps which he then shared with the 3D community. I suspect those parameters could be replicated and modified to use upon another mesh.

 

[Warped9]

I use SketchUp with Maxwell Render.

I wouldn’t begin to know how to model a person, animal or alien.

 

[trynda1701]

Great work on this thread. My favourites so far are the Huron style design and Cyrano Jones' ship.

The size of that one is interesting. You mentioned about how it has to be large enough to accommodate the pilot for extended journeys of weeks of more, and I think the design, and Reverends' comment of his interpretation being 'larger than a shuttlecraft, more like a two deck yatch', captures that idea!

EDIT: so it's a civilian design, originally a space yatch (owned by someone prosperous?), decades old by the time Cyrano buys it, and thereafter he uses it as a prospecting ship and scout craft!

Love the three views of it, and the composite of it at the Vasquez Rocks!

 

[Warped9]

Making the nacelles less cartoony is shape. Trying to figure what sort of subtle detailing I can add to this. I also noticed this ship has no impulse drive so I think I will have to figure out how to add one and where without drastic alterations.

 

[137th Gebirg]

One at each end of the rear of the main superstructure?

 

[Warped9]

I’m wondering about discreetly under the aft platform (or whatever it is) behind the partial cylindrical section of the big section hanging down from the main hull.

 

[UssGlenn]

Though about setting it up to be able to tow cargo pods?

 

[Henoch]

Though about setting it up to be able to tow cargo pods?

Maybe that is the purpose of the "slots" around the aft main superstructure. The cargo pods slide into the slot features. I worry about the impulse engine back wash on the cargo pods, though.

Thinking some more on it, maybe two cylindrical cargo pods are attached, one to each rear projection feature, leaving an open pathway for the impulse exhaust to go between them.