Tales Of The Federation - Akiva Goldsman wants anthology series with classic characters

Discussion in 'Future of Trek' started by Char Kais, Feb 1, 2022.

  1. fireproof78

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    Then I guess I'll be wrong. I've been wrong a lot in my Star Trek opinions. No sense in changing it now ;)
     
  2. BillJ

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    By "wrong" I meant wrong to me. I don't speak, ever, for other people. They have their own thoughts, likes and dislikes.
     
  3. fireproof78

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    It's a joke. I do that.

    But, since I have been a Star Trek fan I have been told what I like is wrong multiple times. It's kind of my Trek fan experience at this point.
     
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    All Trek opinions are valid except saying Tuvix wasn't murdered with gleeful joy by a crazed Janeway wanting to see the life in his eyes vanish for the last time as the transporter beam tore him apart and brought back 2 crew members from the dead thus playing God.
     
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    Why do you have to take a tiny quote that could mean anything and assume it means something very specific that violates canon and also assume that Goldsman thinks the exact same thing and is violating canon on purpose? FFS he could be talking about when Archer is fully retired from everything and is 100 years old like Picard. I.e. he related the show he is working on to another character for a quick example in an interview. This doesn't require anger or accusations, it is just a simple "what if..." But sure he is an incompetent asshole who does not know canon because he said something that could mean anything. Much better to look at it with anger than anything else.
     
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  6. dupersuper

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    The writing seemed very on the wall to me by ESB...
     
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  7. fireproof78

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    Based upon...what exactly? That's interesting.
    Being cynical is more fun because...reasons.
     
  8. dupersuper

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    Yoda's "there is another" line, Luke being able to telepathically contact Leia while dangling from Cloud City...
     
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  9. jackoverfull

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    the movie that starts with them kissing?

    Sure, there is a love triangle that ends favouring Han, but I find unlikely that they were supposed to be siblings already.

    And we know from production sources that the “other” mentioned by today was indeed Luke’s sister, but that sister wasn’t supposed to be Leia: she would have been introduced in the following trilogy had Lucas not decided to wrap up.
     
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  10. JoaquinSlowly

    JoaquinSlowly Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Yup. In ROTJ’s early drafts they were going to introduce “Nellith Skywalker,” Luke’s long lost sister, who would have trained on some unknown planet with another surviving Jedi her entire life.

    Lucas considered having her and Luke team up in Episodes 7-9, or having Luke mentor her son like Obi Wan had mentored him, before he decided he wanted to end it at 6 and got rid of Nellith entirely and made Leia Luke’s sister.
     
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    https://trekmovie.com/2022/02/19/in...on-3-and-his-star-trek-anthology-series-idea/
    Confirmed not going to happen. Or at least not planned to happen at this time.
     
  12. The Wormhole

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    I mean, a Trek anthology series was already pitched and rejected in 2016, so...
     
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    Shame, because with the „Mandalorian stagecraft video wall“ it became much more financially feasible.

    Hope it still happens or we get more Short/Medium Treks ;)
     
  14. BlueShift

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    Why an anthology series? To max out on the already rampant self-referentiality (to avoid calling it nostalgia)?
    To me, that would feel rather shallow. Most of Star Trek has been anthological in character. The ship and the crew have been ‚settings‘ rather to tell all sorts of wildly varying original stories without bothering about continuity or character development too much.
    This made Star Trek innovative and interesting. All these references, the plucking of supposed holes in the narrative universe IMO ultimately fails to be really interesting. It scratches a fan itch. But in the end it’s not really memorable. DSC and PIC will not go down in TV history but as an afterthought on the more original Trek. (Not saying, that they are entertaining and I still love to watch - but I am a fan).
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    That's a retcon. Luke already had a connection with Han and Leia through the Force (hence the reason he went to Bespin), so that doesn't indicate, well anything. Yoda's "there is another" line did not reference Leia, initially.

    It was a very neat and tidy retcon that we all have accepted because we have ROTJ. But that wasn't the intent.
     
  16. Tomalak

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    That whole scene in ROTJ where they try to smooth over the Vader and Leia retcons is hilariously bad. Just skirt over it and hope no one will notice because it's a kids' film...

    "It was true from a certain point of view, before I decided to change what I'd written in 1977 but I definitely had episodes 1-9 all mapped out".
     
  17. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

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    ^ The exposition was delivered by Alec Guinness, that's worth watching. (Still, I do recall this being the "restroom scene" in subsequent theatrical viewings of the film.)

    Hardly innovative...TOS was following tried-and-true TV storytelling tropes of the time. Any number of Westerns used the same formula.
     
  18. Tomalak

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    Even Sir Alec struggles with that scene - he's almost literally phoning it in.
     
  19. The Wormhole

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    Anthology series do seem to be coming back in style. American Horror Story has been popular for years and now has another anthology series as a spin-off. Marvel's What If is basically an anthology series. The Walking Dead is getting an anthology series spin-off later this year. Goldsman's idea is basically going where the money is.
     
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  20. jackoverfull

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    Which is understandable where a product made to make money is involved…