Ok I'll clarify. Never once would a fan of SW complain about having a strong female character. But simply having a female character on screen to push an agenda of diversity, and having that character be under-written and overpowered, does not help and in fact hurts.. it's an insult to many female characters that have come before. The more the powers that be tell people what they want the character to be in contexts outside of the story itself, the more you can see the creators pulling the strings while actually watching the film.. so nothing she does in the film feels genuine. When Ripley decides to go back for Newt in Aleins, that is something she would do.. but when Rey decided to save Kylo Ren, it seems largely out of left field, like the screenwriters needed something for her to do and were sick of using the lazy force Skype to get them together in the same scene.. I mean she just watched the guy kill his father and was calling him monster. They never have that scene where Rey has a lot to learn, as she already bested Ren and did better than him against the guards. Actually she fails saving Kylo Ren as it turns out but the screenwriting still wants her to be the best in the moment so she is "I like this!" shooting down three TIES at once with the same shot in her very next scene. This is not a character, this a cipher, a way of the creators implanting their own desires and agenda into a character. She as inserted into the story as someone who is perfect for the sake of being perfect. And that devalues a lot more interesting characters that are female. Take Lindsey Brigman from James Cameron's the Abyss. She is the smartest character in that film, as she had just designed the underwater drilling platform used in the movie. Yet she shows, fear, weakness, impulsiveness and compassion throughout the film, often at times when her logical mind, her smarts, would have been more beneficial. She does not always do the right thing. But the creators of the new SW films are patting themselves on the back solving a problem that was never a problem.. the lack of female characters. In fact, having only a few characters that were female in and of themselves made those characters more special.. and if they wanted to add more, put some in that had more TO them.
As for my point about inclusion.. inclusion was never an issue. Crybabies were. This notion that we MUST include a character.. and it must be a lead.. of (blank) demographic.. that it must happen. That it must happen regardless of the idea that they have't found ta good story yet, threads pop up that such inclusion just much take place. when that "marvel should put a black a female lead" thread popped up I probably should have opened up a thread called "Marvel must have a character with a freckled face be the lead" in the story. I mean no matter what demographics you elevate for the sake of checking off the boxes, you are always going to miss someone. Why isn't Peter Dinklange the lead in a SW film.. we need more dwarf leads? I kid, because he is a good actor and I'd welcome him into it.. but if the story demanded it, not the fact that SW has not done it yet.
I remember when Moff Gideon showed up in Mandalorian. I had not seen breaking Bad, so this was my first exposure to the actor. That he was of a different race to me had nothing to do with why I loved the character.. he just a bad ass, awesome villain.
But instead of being mature about this, you left wingers who believe that justice will come at the the pull of a voting booth, call me bigoted but have not even presented the inkling of a good argument
