Poll Switch 2, yay! Or nay!

[Alexander Corrino]

Yep. And I'm prepared for that wait. Have more than enough to keep me busy with my system. Exactly. I waited out 2 years before getting my Switch. Still had to send it in for repairs since the joycons and the motherboard were lemons. It's all good now tho.

Let's indeed hope we won't have another joycon disaster on our hands with the Switch 2... since it's essentially the same console only slightly bigger and more powerful. (My joycons acted up as well but I managed to fix them myself.) I got myself the Let's Go Pikachu Switch edition back then. This time I want to wait for the Animal Crossing edition (the Switch 1 got one as well so I'm guessing the Switch 2 will have one also when the new Animal Crossing is released. One day. Somehow.)

 

[Random_Spock]

Let's indeed hope we won't have another joycon disaster on our hands with the Switch 2... since it's essentially the same console only slightly bigger and more powerful. (My joycons acted up as well but I managed to fix them myself.) I got myself the Let's Go Pikachu Switch edition back then. This time I want to wait for the Animal Crossing edition (the Switch 1 got one as well so I'm guessing the Switch 2 will have one also when the new Animal Crossing is released. One day. Somehow.)

Hopefully not. They had to repair one and replace one, those died this year and I got two replacements. Left is a bit tinny, but they're far better than what happened with mine. Drift on both and the battery was going on one of them.

Ah.

I'd be waiting out for better battery. This one is the equivalent of my Switch, battery wise.

 

[Gingerbread Demon]

What does the 2 do that the Switch, or the OLED version doesn't do?
Are there major changes?
Will you need them?

 

[ATimson]

What does the 2 do that the Switch, or the OLED version doesn't do?
Are there major changes?

No new "killer feature" this time. It's a Switch, but with a better processor and graphics.

Will you need them?

Yes, you'll need them because game developers will stop releasing games for the original Switch.

 

[Alexander Corrino]

It's basically a Switch Pro, lol.

 

[jenji120]

US pre orders have been delayed because of the tariffs and apparently Nintendo is in a bit of crisis mode because they didn’t expect the backlash to prices in general that they got. The tariff situation hits my state pretty hard (Tennessee makes foreign cars, whiskey, music, and relies on tourism) and automakers threatened to cut shifts down to one while Jack Daniel’s has been singled out worldwide. Auto manufacturers backed down from that threat for now but that’s the kind of shit that’s already happening. But it encapsulates the problem of trying to tariff the world economy (Volkswagen, Mercedes, Nissan, and Toyota are all made here). Back in the day, the only traditional Japanese school outside of Japan was in TN, that’s how deep those ties go).

And Nintendo’s delay makes some sense… if you’re Nintendo you can’t afford for the world market to be upset and the US market to be absolutely upended by a madman in love with tariffs that are only going to serve as a hidden sales tax on consumers. Japan is working for an exemption which may be part of the delay. But analysts are already announcing a recession within 6 mos.

 

[Rincewiend]

They are doing a Microsoft...

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[Alexander Corrino]

The fact that the guy in charge of Nintendo (America) is called Bowser has never been more appropriate.

 

[Random_Spock]

They are doing a Microsoft...

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Yep. Smh. Wasn't impressed with Microsoft back then either.

The fact that the guy in charge of Nintendo (America) is called Bowser has never been more appropriate.

Definitely. If the name fits.


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You know that Nintendo's messed up, when one of the former Presidents speak up.

 

[Nerroth]

I am... somewhat disappointed that the Switch 2 does not have analogue triggers.

While I suppose first-party Nintendo games would be expected to function well enough with digital triggers in mind, this might impact certain third-party titles that are, or which could be, ported over to the system.

For comparison's sake, a number of handheld PCs, such as the Steam Deck OLED, have analogue triggers as standard; as, indeed, do various controllers (such as Sony's DualSense) that can be used with such devices while in docked mode.

Still, I suppose if one's wallet wasn't impacted heavily enough, it might be possible to use the Switch 2 for Nintendo's own games, plus certain third-party games which suit the system well enough - and to use a handheld PC (to include the SteamOS edition of the Lenovo Legion Go S, which is due out in another month or two) for games which might benefit from analogue triggers, and/or which would probably not be expected to be ported over to the Nintendo eShop.

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Speaking of cost:

On the one hand, the Switch 2 includes a dock, as well as a means to use the Joy-Con 2 separately in docked mode - though it's probably wise to get a Pro Controller 2 for extended play while docked. While the new Joy-Con 2 each have a mouse function, can a standard keyboard and mouse be connected also?

On the other hand, each Steam Deck has a case included, though the higher tier models have better cases. You'd need a separate dock and a DualSense (or some other compatible controller) for docked play, as well as a mouse and keyboard if you want to use it in Desktop Mode a lot.

In both instances, you'd need to get a separate screen protector.

In terms of games, perhaps the two biggest differences cost-wise are the sales (Valve appears to have more of them) and online play (Nintendo offer this as a subscription service). Well, that, and the ability to have games be sold in physical form - though even then, not all games sold in store for Switch 2 are in fact going to have the game on the actual card.

One other advantage of a SteamOS device is that it can function as a PC as well as a gaming system, if needs be.

So, over the expected life span of a given device, there are certainly pluses and minuses to consider, in terms of the overall value proposition of each system - if, indeed, one can only afford to get one or the other.

 

[FPAlpha]

US pre orders have been delayed because of the tariffs and apparently Nintendo is in a bit of crisis mode because they didn’t expect the backlash to prices in general that they got. The tariff situation hits my state pretty hard (Tennessee makes foreign cars, whiskey, music, and relies on tourism) and automakers threatened to cut shifts down to one while Jack Daniel’s has been singled out worldwide. Auto manufacturers backed down from that threat for now but that’s the kind of shit that’s already happening. But it encapsulates the problem of trying to tariff the world economy (Volkswagen, Mercedes, Nissan, and Toyota are all made here). Back in the day, the only traditional Japanese school outside of Japan was in TN, that’s how deep those ties go).

And Nintendo’s delay makes some sense… if you’re Nintendo you can’t afford for the world market to be upset and the US market to be absolutely upended by a madman in love with tariffs that are only going to serve as a hidden sales tax on consumers. Japan is working for an exemption which may be part of the delay. But analysts are already announcing a recession within 6 mos.

I am surprised that they're surprised about the pricing.

These are family oriented consoles and so a family of 3 or 4 would be thinking of buying 2 alongside accessories and games of course, this breaks the 1000$ barrier very easily and this expense you do not do lightly, especially now that the games have become even more expensive with prices ranging from 70 up to rumored 90$.

So if you want a range of games for your kids to play you are looking at an additional 200-300 for the start as well. Might be mitigated somewhat that apparently if those Switch 2's are linked only one game purchase may be necessary to play it on all consoles but i'm not superclear how that works.

Right now everything is so much in flux that nobody can plan more than a week ahead given how erratic Trump is and how badly thought through ( if at all) this whole tarriff mess is. Now they're saying computers and smartphones will be exempt which begs the question if Nintendo can classify the console as a computer but even then this exemption already has a time limit making a sane business decision impossible or at least very risky.

 

[Yistaan]

You know that Nintendo's messed up, when one of the former Presidents speak up.

Not just a former president, but literally Doug Bowser's direct predecessor I believe. I can't imagine Bowser's happy about that, it evokes the Chapek/Iger situation at Disney a few years back in my opinion.

 

[Rincewiend]

I wonder how the Switch 2's price will impact the OG and Oled versions...
I can imagine people waiting for the Switch 2 to replace their 5yo Switch going "I'l just get a new OG or Oled switch, the new one is too expensive"...

 

[jenji120]

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[Gingerbread Demon]

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Oh my........ Craptendo then

 

[FPAlpha]

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Oh my god

"If you weren't disabled before you wll be after!"

 

[Owain Taggart]

I think it's an unfortunate time to be releasing a new console. Actually, this entire generation has been an unfortunate time, given the PS5 and XBoxes were released during the pandemic amid shortages, and now they've got tariiffs to contend with. At a time when console prices should be declining, they're actually rising in some countries in response to the tariffs.. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say this has been one of the most expensive console generations. Gamers just can't seem to catch a break.

 

[Dr Bonezee]

nope, not a chance

 

[Rincewiend]

Apparently the BC is software only, so not all Switch 1 games will be playable on the Switch 2

 

[FPAlpha]

I think it's an unfortunate time to be releasing a new console. Actually, this entire generation has been an unfortunate time, given the PS5 and XBoxes were released during the pandemic amid shortages, and now they've got tariiffs to contend with. At a time when console prices should be declining, they're actually rising in some countries in response to the tariffs.. It wouldn't be an exaggeration to say this has been one of the most expensive console generations. Gamers just can't seem to catch a break.

Well, the development time is measured in years and of course no one expected such a mess right around release time. I mean if Trump were elected everybody expected problems but the world was still surprised at the speed and depth of the mess.

It gets even worse when you consider PC gamers, who have waited so long for a new generation of graphics cards from industry leader Nvidia and it turned out to be a shitshow. Vastly overpraised marketing that didn't hold up to actual unbiased tests, in all likelihood some production batches were released with errors reducing the performance of video cards, bad drivers and prices so high you could have bought high end gaming PCs for the previous generation with just what the top video card costs now, if you can get one that is and don't want to pay 200-300% more to scalpers.

The problem is that companies like Nvidia can and do earn much more by producing AI chips, the profit margins are much higher and so the main effort moved away from PC components to these types of chips.