Might have to check it out. I love First Contact and had no problem laughing myself into hysterics at the roasting it received.
SW blu-rays have changes to the films again
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Then you will definitely like it - a lot!
Guartho said:
No, you're not. I made that painfully clear in my first response, but you seem to be either not getting that or deliberately ignoring it.
Guartho said:
Because the part about Yoda lying was itself a lie, while the part about Obi-Wan lying was not. It's not complicated. Guilt-by-association doesn't count.
Guartho said:
I didn't go off on any "wild goose chase", and if you actually think that I did, you misunderstood me completely. My stance on Yoda is based on recall of the content of the films, and the fact that I've encountered claims like these before. I happen to know the facts of the situation. No goose chase is needed, nor do I need to studiously avoid any evidence that might tell a different story.
Guartho said:
I got that. ( Meanwhile, acting like I can't understand such a thing doesn't do much to create the impression that your assumptions have much to do with reality. ) I attempted to make that clear by highlighting the failure in the attempted analogy: namely, that people are refusing to read a document that can be easily located by anyone with a search engine, while nothing of the sort is happening in Yoda's case. History shows that going to the trouble of re-transcribing the information in the rebuttal for those who refuse to even read it in the first place has no lasting effect. It must be done again and again.
Guartho said:
So it's an "outrageous claim" that prequel haters sometimes don't tell the truth about the content of the films? Seriously, are you new to the internet or something?
Guartho said:
That's funny, because it takes far less than 25% of the total page count to get to the first instance. So we are faced with several options:
1) You didn't actually read any of it;
2) You read some of it but for some reason failed to notice any of the places where the film is said to conflict with Stoklasa's statements;
3) You noticed them but for some reason won't admit it.
My guess would be leaning toward either 1 or 2.
Guartho said:
This is called "projection". You're "confident" and "sure of yourself" and can't be bothered with finding out the truth, and somehow this means that I'm an "upset" popularity-obsessed liar with a similar aversion to facts as opposed to feelings of confidence. In reality, my position is based on the facts. Incredulity at the very concept that a prequel hater might have sometimes strayed from the truth is not a good sign that all this "confidence" is ultimately well-placed.
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here is something you dont see everyday
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/04/watch-child-is-star-struck-by-star-wars-revelation/
http://newsfeed.time.com/2011/10/04/watch-child-is-star-struck-by-star-wars-revelation/
^That's very cool. I once watched the OT on DVD with a friend from East Germany who was mostly unfamiliar with Star Wars, and the revelation in question totally knocked her for a loop (as it did to me as well, back when i first saw the movie).
(That's not the claim you made)
You've now posted another tremendously long post about how it would be a waste of effort for you to post a single sentence... again.
You've got nothing.
Put up or shut up.
That boy was freaking APPALLED! "WTF? Obi-Wan is a liar? What a prick!"
My four-year-old daughter had a similar reaction last week when she saw Star Wars and Empire for the first time. She hasn't put together yet that Obi-wan stretched the truth in Star Wars.
After the original trilogy I let her watch TPM, but she'll have to wait until she's a little older to watch AotC and RotS. After about 15 minutes of TPM she asked "When are Luke and the other guys going to show up?" She also didn't think Jar Jar was very funny.
After the original trilogy I let her watch TPM, but she'll have to wait until she's a little older to watch AotC and RotS. After about 15 minutes of TPM she asked "When are Luke and the other guys going to show up?" She also didn't think Jar Jar was very funny.
Look, it's not that hard. Put up or shut up. I think you're wrong. It bothers you enough to keep commenting on it, but not enough to simply prove that you're right. Why is that?
To borrow a phrase from Mr. Plinkett "This makes no sense."
That's what happens when you place emotions over facts.
Once again, prequel haters make false statements all the time.
It's not an outrageous concept. It's actually quite common.
I'm a big fan of the PT -- big fan -- but am not in the least upset by Plinkett's reviews. I've watched them and laughed along with them. And at the very least I can acknowledge the obvious flaws in the PT (and enjoy it despite -- and in some cases because of -- those flaws).
My only "beef" with Plinkett's reviews stem from just a few things. For starters, they were funny, but I thought the whole rapist angle was just stupid. Plus, his reviews, to me, represent diminishing returns (TPM was far more entertaining and interesting than AOTC which was better than ROTS). Put simply, his schtick gets old after, oh, say sixty minutes or so.
More relevant to SW, while I often found his comments to be insightful, Plinkett was far from being objective in his critiques. No one can rationally assert otherwise. His entire purpose was to entertainingly skewer the PT. And he succeeded. Mostly, my annoyance comes from those who quote Plinkett as the be-all-end-all of PT criticism, without acknowledging that his reviews (which do often contain legitimate critiques) were meant more for entertainment than academic purposes.
As long as his reviews are kept in proper perspective, I've absolutely no issue with them whatsoever.
It's so common that you have yet to produce a single one made by Red Letter Media about the Phantom Menace.
Put up or shut up.
BTW, I'm no prequel hater. They didn't live up to the original Trilogy. They are shot in a very boring way with very few creative camera movement, especially in live action shots, and they're just not half as clever. But I don't hate them by any means. I found them enjoyable and "good enough." I have all six films on DVD and Blu-ray. I am quite capable of enjoying the prequel trilogy and the reviews that roasted them.
You've read about 1/4th of the rebuttal, right? That means you've seen a few. It wasn't written in code.
Guartho said:
Congratulations. That doesn't change the fact that prequel haters sometimes make false statements about the films ( a statement that was about RLM, not you, because as far as I know you aren't making false statements about the films ).
I have two kids, an 11-year-old boy and an 8-year-old girl, and they have absolutely no love for JarJar. They don't hate him, they're just "meh" about him. They hardly ever watch TPM, but they watch the other five flicks (and the Clone Wars 'toons, both drawn and CG versions) all the time. Interestingly enough, while they have no love for JarJar, they find all the antics of the droids and the Ewoks to be hilarious. Go figure.
They might be half as clever, if zero were half of anything.
FWIW: Zero is half of zero (it's the only number that's half of itself).
Zero isn't half of anything nor can it be halved.
You can't cut nothing into half.
You can't cut nothing into half.
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