Just so know, the latest Half in the Bag discusses the blu-ray release and George himself.
SW blu-rays have changes to the films again
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And we have no idea exactly how Owen and Beru died. AFAIK, we don't know exactly what kind of weapons the stormtroopers used, where on their bodies Owen and Beru were shot (i.e. were they killed 'in action'? Or shot execution style?), what was done with the bodies afterward, etc. So the question of 'natural' would seem to be irrelevant.
That might be true now, but it wasn't always. In the 80s I caught a couple of unrated horror films in a chain theater. Although I don't think they lasted longer than a week.
I am sort of curious though what would happen if something with Star Wars' level of popularity went unrated (not suggesting it was made with lots of gore or swearing, just that it wasn't submitted to the MPAA). With something that popular, would a lot of chains let it in anyway because they'd be losing money if they didn't?
I'd be very surprised if an unrated movie franchise achieved a Star Wars level of popularity any time in the next twenty years. In other words, to get that much of an audience, it pretty much has to be rated from the get-go. I believe also that conventional wisdom says it has to be less than R-rated too (in the U.S.) to get that popular. R-rated franchises can get popular, just not that popular. So, I don't think it can happen yet, even in this generation.
By the time it does, I suspect there'll be a different business model anyway. The flip side of that coin is that a different business model might bring about an unrated blockbuster franchise.
By the time it does, I suspect there'll be a different business model anyway. The flip side of that coin is that a different business model might bring about an unrated blockbuster franchise.
I agree with you but I was thinking more along the lines of the prequel trilogy. Or what if just ROTS skipped the ratings board, how many chains would refuse to carry it.
OK. I get you. Yeah that is kind of interesting. It really one-ups what actually happened in the Star Wars saga.
As to your question, I have no idea. Obviously, it could only be pulled off for an already very successful franchise, but I still suspect it would be unthinkable in the foreseeable future.
The obvious question will be decisive I think, which is why release it unrated unless the rating itself would be unacceptably restrictive? That thought, in and of itself, would worry a lot of people, especially parents, though perhaps over time fewer and fewer. So, at least for now, the unrated movie is at least as stigmatized as the restricted one, and probably more so. Therefore, it would be a good way to jeopardize a successful franchise.
Would a Star Wars movie ever be revised to get an R rating? No way. Would a PG-13 hurt any Star Wars episode in the 3-D releases? Hardly or not at all, I think.
As to your question, I have no idea. Obviously, it could only be pulled off for an already very successful franchise, but I still suspect it would be unthinkable in the foreseeable future.
The obvious question will be decisive I think, which is why release it unrated unless the rating itself would be unacceptably restrictive? That thought, in and of itself, would worry a lot of people, especially parents, though perhaps over time fewer and fewer. So, at least for now, the unrated movie is at least as stigmatized as the restricted one, and probably more so. Therefore, it would be a good way to jeopardize a successful franchise.
Would a Star Wars movie ever be revised to get an R rating? No way. Would a PG-13 hurt any Star Wars episode in the 3-D releases? Hardly or not at all, I think.
I was thinking out loud (or on screen, I suppose). Definitely a tangent and not particularly relevant to the thread. I think my train of thought started because someone upthread mentioned an online (tv tropes?) rumor that the "Greedo Shoots First" was primarily to avoid a harsher rating when the Special Editions were resubmitted to the MPAA before the theatrical release. (At least I assume they were resubmitted.) Then the mention of unrated films not being carried by chain theaters had me wondering if someone would be powerful enough to override a chain's normal policy.
But it does seem like "popular" franchises or filmmakers have far more sway with the MPAA, so they'd never need to go the unrated route. Just to be clear, I'm not at all suggesting Lucas would suddenly want to put adults-only content in a Star Wars film.
And then another part of me remembers the proposed "A" rating from the late 1980s, I believe. The idea was to create an alternative rating that was harder than an "R" but didn't carry the stigma an "X" does (basically X = porn). I don't recall the entire tale, but the MPAA eventually dropped "X" entirely and replaced it with "NC-17" which missed the entire point of creating two distinct "adults or mature only" ratings - one for soft/hard porn and one for "adult content" (meaning something a child or even teen probably should not watch but is not necessarily wall-to-wall sex or violence and something a chain theater might be willing to carry).
So then I thought, who would be powerful/popular enough to protest the MPAA in general and still be successful. And my first thoughts were Lucas with the Star Wars prequels or maybe the upcoming Hobbit film.
So really I'm all over the place and it's not in any way connected to "would/should Lucas release an unrated film." Hopefully that all makes sense.
But it does seem like "popular" franchises or filmmakers have far more sway with the MPAA, so they'd never need to go the unrated route. Just to be clear, I'm not at all suggesting Lucas would suddenly want to put adults-only content in a Star Wars film.
And then another part of me remembers the proposed "A" rating from the late 1980s, I believe. The idea was to create an alternative rating that was harder than an "R" but didn't carry the stigma an "X" does (basically X = porn). I don't recall the entire tale, but the MPAA eventually dropped "X" entirely and replaced it with "NC-17" which missed the entire point of creating two distinct "adults or mature only" ratings - one for soft/hard porn and one for "adult content" (meaning something a child or even teen probably should not watch but is not necessarily wall-to-wall sex or violence and something a chain theater might be willing to carry).
So then I thought, who would be powerful/popular enough to protest the MPAA in general and still be successful. And my first thoughts were Lucas with the Star Wars prequels or maybe the upcoming Hobbit film.
So really I'm all over the place and it's not in any way connected to "would/should Lucas release an unrated film." Hopefully that all makes sense.
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Re: Full list of Star Wars blu-ray deleted scenes
Yeah, but I had thought there was more to it from what the old CD had described of the scene.
the Tosche station-scene is on you tube for those who want to see it.
Yeah, but I had thought there was more to it from what the old CD had described of the scene.
Haven't seen the BDs yet (but am buying the OT set for starters since they are my favorites) but am curious about some of the changes. I'm keeping all of my other DVD sets due to the extras, as well as having the ORIGINAL versions as well. One thing that would be really nice since there have been so many changes to the movies- if it could even technically be done- is to allow viewers to basically pre-program the movies so that you can basically pick and choose and/or add/delete certain scenes. Kind of like a "choose-your-own-adventure" movie. Maybe that will be in the next version?
I watched it earlier. I can't wait for the Internet to explode and cave in on them when people see them basically say Lucas is an average film maker that got incredibly lucky when other people made the first Star Wars a huge hit!
Not that I disagree or anything.
I can't imagine Lucas was that afraid of getting an unlikely PG-13 rating, a rating which has not proven to be detrimental to film success, and in fact, is often sought. Besides Lucas seems like a guy who for better or worse always sticks to his guns on these things so I doubt he'd be easily dissuaded. Finally, you'd think he would've restored this scene on home video release if he really did change it for theatrical release.
I watched it earlier. I can't wait for the Internet to explode and cave in on them when people see them basically say Lucas is an average film maker that got incredibly lucky when other people made the first Star Wars a huge hit!
Not that I disagree or anything.
You do know Half in the Bag is from the same guys that did the Plinkett reviews of the Prequals, right? That opinion from them is nothing new. The internet broke in half already.
Well if you watch it, they actually state in the Half in the Bag that he is an average filmmaker and others really helped pull it off, and they said it's really the editing.
Re: Full list of Star Wars blu-ray deleted scenes
Interesting trivia - Koo Stark, who plays Camie in the Tosche Station footage, was originally considered for Princess Leia.
She went on to star in some erotic film instead.
Interesting trivia - Koo Stark, who plays Camie in the Tosche Station footage, was originally considered for Princess Leia.
She went on to star in some erotic film instead.
Re: Full list of Star Wars blu-ray deleted scenes
She must have been so pissed that Lucas cut her completely out of ANH. I feel kind of bad for her.
She must have been so pissed that Lucas cut her completely out of ANH. I feel kind of bad for her.
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