New episode tonight, good people. Hopefully I'll get home from work just in time. Warners mailed out advance episode screeners on this one. Mo Ryan is raving about it. 
Supernatural 5x8 "Changing Channels"
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Trickster! Woohoo!
Glad to see you here, Mutenroshi. 
The Trickster was Gabriel all along. Wow. 
Herpexia. 
Gods, that was awesomely funny. Gotta love that Sam got a crunch in the nuts for choosing Ruby over his brother. I bow to your wicked sense of humor, Mr. Jeremy Carver. 
And Grey's Anatomy is that bad. That's the scary part.
Seriously.
Yes, seriously
They sure tied the trickster into the whole thing in a clever way and left the door open for his return. I think the best part is Sam and Dean giving the finger to destiny. Just because Gabriel thinks it's a foregone conclusion doesn't make it so. Just because Azazel thought it doesn't make it so. And....of course the folks at TWOP are fighting. Half loved it, and half hated it. Yes, they detested it. They don't comprehend that it isn't Sam and Dean's destiny. The message was exactly the opposite. Idiots. Oh, and they resent another "angel" intruding on their precious Sam and Dean's screentime.
Criminy. Their Sammy and Deany poo aren't "ordinary" enough and have to share with angels.
Gods, that was awesomely funny. Gotta love that Sam got a crunch in the nuts for choosing Ruby over his brother. I bow to your wicked sense of humor, Mr. Jeremy Carver. And Grey's Anatomy is that bad. That's the scary part. Seriously.
Yes, seriously They sure tied the trickster into the whole thing in a clever way and left the door open for his return. I think the best part is Sam and Dean giving the finger to destiny. Just because Gabriel thinks it's a foregone conclusion doesn't make it so. Just because Azazel thought it doesn't make it so. And....of course the folks at TWOP are fighting. Half loved it, and half hated it. Yes, they detested it. They don't comprehend that it isn't Sam and Dean's destiny. The message was exactly the opposite. Idiots. Oh, and they resent another "angel" intruding on their precious Sam and Dean's screentime.
Criminy. Their Sammy and Deany poo aren't "ordinary" enough and have to share with angels.
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Loved the Knight Rider reference
I've got bronchitis or something. It hurts to laugh. Watching was very painful, especially during Herpexia and Knight Rider.
Herpexia 
Didn't they refer to the medical show having ghosts? And wasn't said ghost Jeffrey Dean Morgan on Grey's Anatomy? Hahaha, and pretty cool move that the Trickster was Arcangel Gabby the whole time.
Yes, Jeffrey Dean Morgan was the ghost Denny on Grey's. What's so scary is that "you're a brilliant coward" is typical Grey's dialogue. 
Well I loved parts of this episode. The meat of the episode was very strong, too bad it was tops 10 minutes.
As for the TV spoofs, well two I found laugh out loud funny. Herplexia, and Night Rider (And look get another slash reference as Dean is fisting Sam, Yikes). Those were the only two that stood up fully in the humor department.
The opening credits had a few montage scenes that I enjoyed, there were a few pointed moments at Grey's that I enjoyed, and I liked the Hulk.
As a metaphor for the state of television, I actually found Ghostfacers to be the stronger outing, hell even Hollywood Babylon's attack on studio management was better. But both of those lacked this episodes stronger undercurrent.
What is interesting is so far the two times the show has truly retcon a plot point, both have worked really well. Trickster being an Angel and Azazel's true plan being raising Lucifer.
And I found the casting and the acting to be really weak (which was probably intentional) for the most of the "Shows" segments, and the only segment that fell completely flat to me was the spoof of Japanese game shows, which tragically even The Amazing Race did better on the fly then SN did.
But this was clearly the Tricksters best performance. He did really well. But his lesson to Sam in the 3rd season seems off base now. If he truly believed this is fate, or destiny without any hope of change or free will, why the warning to Sam to just let Dean go. To not obsess. That doesn't track. Now if he was just wanting Sam to let Dean die (to let Dean start the chain of events), you would have thought he would have encouraged Sam's darker impulses, not tried to warn him away from them.
As for the TV spoofs, well two I found laugh out loud funny. Herplexia, and Night Rider (And look get another slash reference as Dean is fisting Sam, Yikes). Those were the only two that stood up fully in the humor department.
The opening credits had a few montage scenes that I enjoyed, there were a few pointed moments at Grey's that I enjoyed, and I liked the Hulk.
As a metaphor for the state of television, I actually found Ghostfacers to be the stronger outing, hell even Hollywood Babylon's attack on studio management was better. But both of those lacked this episodes stronger undercurrent.
What is interesting is so far the two times the show has truly retcon a plot point, both have worked really well. Trickster being an Angel and Azazel's true plan being raising Lucifer.
And I found the casting and the acting to be really weak (which was probably intentional) for the most of the "Shows" segments, and the only segment that fell completely flat to me was the spoof of Japanese game shows, which tragically even The Amazing Race did better on the fly then SN did.
But this was clearly the Tricksters best performance. He did really well. But his lesson to Sam in the 3rd season seems off base now. If he truly believed this is fate, or destiny without any hope of change or free will, why the warning to Sam to just let Dean go. To not obsess. That doesn't track. Now if he was just wanting Sam to let Dean die (to let Dean start the chain of events), you would have thought he would have encouraged Sam's darker impulses, not tried to warn him away from them.
Letting Dean die a thousand times in front of Sam was pretty much pushing his darker impulses, no? Gabriel considered it destiny for them to play these roles, so why not push and push? He's still the same being. Gabriel loves to fuck with people because he's given up. Sam's psyche fractured after that experience. He fucked with Sam in a most entertaining way.
Damn, that nut crunchers game show had me in stitches. Sam, too, apparently. 
Damn, that nut crunchers game show had me in stitches.
Sam, too, apparently.
Yeah but he didn't do that to show Sam to embrace his darkness, but to not go dark. A warner of what he could become, not an invitation to how good it would be.
Really the the Japanese game show did literally nothing for me. I thought it was probably their worst ever attempt at humor in the show's history.
Really the the Japanese game show did literally nothing for me. I thought it was probably their worst ever attempt at humor in the show's history.
I liked the opening into montage too specially the bit with the tandem bicycle and the part where they catch the football and the collapse simultaneously. Very reminiscent of Bosom Buddies and the font they used for the title card looked like Full Houses, speaking of Full House I always thought the actor playin trickster looks oddly like Joey Gladstone himself Dave Couliet, hahaha
A last gasp attempt by him to sway Sam from what Gabriel considered to be the inevitable, perhaps? But done in a Machiavellian, typically trickster way that did more harm than good? It just makes sense somehow.
Worst episode this season and maybe in the last two seasons.
Gimmicky to its core and overly proud of it. Yuck! The idea itself is somewhat clever but its execution was pretty poor. I think it could have been mined to better effect. This seemed almost like something the CW bigwigs would come up with.
The writer was obviously going for clever with the teaser but it was awful. The Japanese gameshow sketch was the worst. How old exactly is the writer? C'mon a strike to the crotch--we are talking Beavis and Butthead mentality here. Maybe I simply don't have the kind of sense of humor that this sort of show was designed for or maybe this is what passes for fun and if so this probably explains why I haven't watched a sitcom in over a decade. It wasn't Sam and Dean it was Jared and Jensen doing this tongue in cheek. These scenes could have easily been outtakes with the two actors cutting up in between shooting a scene if I didn't know any better. The Grey's Anatomy sketch went on too long and was underwhelming. And the idea of putting Sam and Dean in these roles for some larger point about them accepting their roles as chosen vessels was weak in order to justify the inanity.
The only decent moments that I didn't have to fast forward through were the ones that actually were interesting drama and not some idiotic parody.
I give this a D. SN is underperforming eight episodes in and next week's Supernatural convention could be yet another CW-tastic fluff piece. If SN keeps this up they could be due for their own ribbing in some other show's bad tv parody.
Gimmicky to its core and overly proud of it. Yuck! The idea itself is somewhat clever but its execution was pretty poor. I think it could have been mined to better effect. This seemed almost like something the CW bigwigs would come up with.
The writer was obviously going for clever with the teaser but it was awful. The Japanese gameshow sketch was the worst. How old exactly is the writer? C'mon a strike to the crotch--we are talking Beavis and Butthead mentality here. Maybe I simply don't have the kind of sense of humor that this sort of show was designed for or maybe this is what passes for fun and if so this probably explains why I haven't watched a sitcom in over a decade. It wasn't Sam and Dean it was Jared and Jensen doing this tongue in cheek. These scenes could have easily been outtakes with the two actors cutting up in between shooting a scene if I didn't know any better. The Grey's Anatomy sketch went on too long and was underwhelming. And the idea of putting Sam and Dean in these roles for some larger point about them accepting their roles as chosen vessels was weak in order to justify the inanity.
The only decent moments that I didn't have to fast forward through were the ones that actually were interesting drama and not some idiotic parody.
I give this a D. SN is underperforming eight episodes in and next week's Supernatural convention could be yet another CW-tastic fluff piece. If SN keeps this up they could be due for their own ribbing in some other show's bad tv parody.
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