Suddenly, a scene pops into my head. It involves this line.
"Dean, my eyes aren't turning yellow because I'm using my powers too much. Apparently, Ruby's new body has hepatitis."
Supernatural 4x16 "On the Head of a Pin" SPOILER discussion thread
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Suddenly, a scene pops into my head. It involves this line.
"Dean, my eyes aren't turning yellow because I'm using my powers too much. Apparently, Ruby's new body has hepatitis."
She's eeeeeevil.
wow I loved this episode, but then I am a huge fan of the whole angel vs demons arc the show is doing. I adore almost everything about it. Anna is great. For awhile I didn't know if Uriel or Anna let Alister free and I still don't know what Anna's agenda is.
I feel bad for Castiel, he just looked so utterly lost and confused.
When we started to see the Angels and how they behaved in this show I said I thought it was reminding me a lot of the manga Angel Sactuary. Which featured different factions of Angels ultimately going up against one another, making deals with demons, etc... for control of Heaven and to then control the Earth. I think we have something similar here. We have factions of Angels seeming trying to allow the Apocalypse to happen and want to unite under a risen Lucifer. Crazy.
I feel bad for Castiel, he just looked so utterly lost and confused.
When we started to see the Angels and how they behaved in this show I said I thought it was reminding me a lot of the manga Angel Sactuary. Which featured different factions of Angels ultimately going up against one another, making deals with demons, etc... for control of Heaven and to then control the Earth. I think we have something similar here. We have factions of Angels seeming trying to allow the Apocalypse to happen and want to unite under a risen Lucifer. Crazy.
its an Angelic Civil War. I think it would be pretty cool to see in the finale, either season or series finale of an epic battle with Castiel, Dean and Anna leading an army of Angels against Lucifer, Sam and Lilith amongst a horde of demons with Lawrence, Kansas being their battleground, only to have Sam eventually turn on his faction in the end and reuniting with his brother. Wouldn't that be amazing?
This is something I kind of wanted to see in the Angel finale, but yeah, that didn't happen.
This is something I kind of wanted to see in the Angel finale, but yeah, that didn't happen.
Yeah, but Othello, who's to say Alistair wasn't a lying sack of shit about John? He knows how fragile Dean is psychologically at this point. Talking about John suffering and Dean not measuring up is just the thing to break Dean. Alistair's a naughty demon. He knows. 
Oh, Ben Edlund wrote this episode. That's a testament to what a coup it was to get him on staff. He also wrote "Nightshifter." They should let him write serious episodes more often.
Oh, Ben Edlund wrote this episode. That's a testament to what a coup it was to get him on staff. He also wrote "Nightshifter." They should let him write serious episodes more often.
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Dean obviously left the non-whining part of his soul in hell to bulk up....
thats interesting...
1) god wanted dean out of hell.
2) god told Castiel and uriel to do what dean wanted. (they ignored him)
3) dean got a relbelious angel back her (anna) powers.
4) anna turned castiel from heaven... not from god but from a faction other then god. Also, Anna loves dean (err loved dean) since she was human once does she still understand love... does this understanding put her closer to god?
she certainly understands doubt.
5) dean both starts and finishes this problem.
1) god wanted dean out of hell.
2) god told Castiel and uriel to do what dean wanted. (they ignored him)
3) dean got a relbelious angel back her (anna) powers.
4) anna turned castiel from heaven... not from god but from a faction other then god. Also, Anna loves dean (err loved dean) since she was human once does she still understand love... does this understanding put her closer to god?
she certainly understands doubt.
5) dean both starts and finishes this problem.
When all is said and done, Dean (and Anna and starting to do so Cas) are thinking for themselves instead of blindly following orders. Evangelicals might consider that subversive, but it's a positive, logical message from my perspective.
I still love how absolutely deadpan Collins is delivering his lines. Uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison. Ask anyone.
That's so Edlund, but Collins is so damn perfect for the part.
Heaven....I'm in heaven....and my heart beats so that I can hardly speak....and then we get the happiness we seek....when we're out together dancing....cheek to cheek.
I still love how absolutely deadpan Collins is delivering his lines. Uriel's the funniest angel in the garrison. Ask anyone.
That's so Edlund, but Collins is so damn perfect for the part. Heaven....I'm in heaven....and my heart beats so that I can hardly speak....and then we get the happiness we seek....when we're out together dancing....cheek to cheek.
Great news. Travis Yanan at pifeedback posted the final ratings for last night. Supernatural got 200,000 viewers gained.
Smallville
- 3.492 million viewers
- 2.2/4 HH
- 1.5/5 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34
Supernatural
- 3.370 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/3 A18-49
- 1.3/4 A18-34
We did very very good!!!
Picked up two tenths in the demos. Nice.
One of these days we'll beat Smallville.
Smallville
- 3.492 million viewers
- 2.2/4 HH
- 1.5/5 A18-49
- 1.6/5 A18-34
Supernatural
- 3.370 million viewers
- 2.1/3 HH
- 1.4/3 A18-49
- 1.3/4 A18-34
We did very very good!!!
Picked up two tenths in the demos. Nice.
One of these days we'll beat Smallville.
It was sure better than the tripe I'm watching now masquerading as a finale for Battlestar Galactica the series. They're cramming too much shit in there because they never answered any questions all along.
Deleting battlestar spoilers per request
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Im kind of lost here, but if they remembered Satan, and they say God put him in hell, then how can the angels say they dont think there is a God?
If no God, then whom locked Satan up in those Seals?
Sorry just this storyline starting to not make much sense to me.
Great episode though except feel both Sam and Dean are too dark with the things they have done to be considered Hero's.
If no God, then whom locked Satan up in those Seals?
Sorry just this storyline starting to not make much sense to me.
Great episode though except feel both Sam and Dean are too dark with the things they have done to be considered Hero's.
Please don't talk about BSG in this thread - I haven't seen numerous episodes yet and don't want to have to avoid this thread to avoid the spoilers.
On subject, let me check on something - The rebel angels aren't the ones doing the seal breaking, right? They're just willing to let the demons do it rather than trying to stop it, because they want Lucifer back, because they disagreed with God casting him out in the first place. Right?
On subject, let me check on something - The rebel angels aren't the ones doing the seal breaking, right? They're just willing to let the demons do it rather than trying to stop it, because they want Lucifer back, because they disagreed with God casting him out in the first place. Right?
You are correct, lvsxy808.
Uriel thinks there is a God, just that God doesn't care what they do, snick. He was using the fact that God supposedly let him get away with murdering the other angels as a basis. It's sort of a deistic perspective. There is a creator...but he/she's not involved in what we do.
Uriel thinks there is a God, just that God doesn't care what they do, snick. He was using the fact that God supposedly let him get away with murdering the other angels as a basis. It's sort of a deistic perspective. There is a creator...but he/she's not involved in what we do.
Thanks, thats my point too, they disagreed with God but yet they dont think god is real.
But yeah i think your right in what your assuming here.
None of the Angels ever met God, except for 4. So, really, Uriel is disagreeing with the Party leadership, rather than with Big Brother himself, and questioning whether Big Brother ever really existed at all or if he was always just a ruse by the Party leaders to justify their own power.
Everything that they know about G-d is second hand. It's all been relayed to them by the Party leaders. They've never actually met the guy, never heard the guy's words, they just trusted that their leaders, who are supposedly taking orders directly from God, are actually being honest. And it was probably the Party leaders who did the actual casting down of Lucifer.
Everything that they know about G-d is second hand. It's all been relayed to them by the Party leaders. They've never actually met the guy, never heard the guy's words, they just trusted that their leaders, who are supposedly taking orders directly from God, are actually being honest. And it was probably the Party leaders who did the actual casting down of Lucifer.
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