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Superman

Supervisor 194 said:
Silver Age Superman was written for children primarily and falls apart if scrutinized by modern adult sensibilities---as do all funnybook heroes.
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It was falling apart for many readers of the period; DC did not discourage readers from continuing into their teen and young adult years (hence the maturation of stories referred to earlier). With that, a character stuck in that Super-Santa muck--one who was not well-integrated with the rest of the same universe in any convincing fashion-- was not going to keep the interest of a changing comic readership.
 
theenglish said:
That was just a general statement based on memes I see online. Not directed at anyone on this board.

On another topic, has anyone been following Action Comics' Warworld storyline that has been going on for the past year and a half. The final instalment was released this past week but I have not read it yet. Superman has led his own team (a version of the Authority) to Warworld which is under rule by a new Mongul. Superman's powers are deleted and the team is defeated, but he has to inspire a group of slaves who have a Kryptonian heritage to rise up and defeat Mongul and his warriors. For me it has been the best use of Mongul since Reign of the Supermen.
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I haven’t read it—but I hear great things.

More on Reeves portrayal
https://www.cbr.com/best-superman-christopher-reeve/

This will be awesome
https://screenrant.com/superman-best-costumes-mike-allred-dc-action-comics/

https://screenrant.com/alex-ross-luke-skywalker-superman-art/
 
CorporalCaptain said:
Exactly. If anything the 1978 film elevated Superman to a greater level of mythological stature than the one given to him in the comics. That was evident to me on first viewing.

That said, the element of Superman as a kind of Space Moses were present in his origin story from its first reveal. However, although he was presented as defending the ideals of truth and justice, Superman did not have the role of prophet in the comics, generally speaking.

On the other hand, if you listen to what Jor-El says in the Fortress of Solitude in the 1978 film, Superman comes off essentially as Space Jesus: Jor-El's only son sent to Earth to inspire humanity to do good.
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Baby sent down in a river in a basket.

"Moses"

Shuster and Seigel were good Jewish boys.
 
Hey how does Superman fly to other planets? Won't he lose his powers, or come to think of it breathing in space? I never thought of those things till this thread came along.
 
Gingerbread Demon said:
Hey how does Superman fly to other planets? Won't he lose his powers, or come to think of it breathing in space? I never thought of those things till this thread came along.
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There have been different explanations over the years. In some versions, he has needed a breathing apparatus in space but in others he just doesn't need to breathe. Sometimes he's needed a ship to travel to other planets while in others he can just fly there. Sometimes he retains his powers for a while under a red son and other times he loses his powers immediately. It all depends which era of Superman you are reading.
 
theenglish said:
There have been different explanations over the years. In some versions, he has needed a breathing apparatus in space but in others he just doesn't need to breathe. Sometimes he's needed a ship to travel to other planets while in others he can just fly there. Sometimes he retains his powers for a while under a red son and other times he loses his powers immediately. It all depends which era of Superman you are reading.
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I think Ginger was talking about there being no sunlight between stars in the interstellar void.

If Silver age Superman time warps at the same time hes flying at relativistic speed, then he's got instantaneous space travel, where he doesn't arrive on the planet of the apes 4 thousand years late.
 
Guy Gardener said:
I think Ginger was talking about there being no sunlight between stars in the interstellar void.

If Silver age Superman time warps at the same time hes flying at relativistic speed, then he's got instantaneous space travel, where he doesn't arrive on the planet of the apes 4 thousand years late.
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LOL--that is thinking about it way more than any writer in the Silver Age ever did.
 
Bronze Age Superman traveled between star system by hyperspace by his own. He didn't need to breath. When he was in the void with no suns he usually retained the effect of the last sun he was exposed to. It was like a "switch". The effects were immediate.
 
Skipper said:
Bronze Age Superman traveled between star system by hyperspace by his own. He didn't need to breath. When he was in the void with no suns he usually retained the effect of the last sun he was exposed to. It was like a "switch". The effects were immediate.
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Space warping is achieved by vibrating and tuning, just like time warping or phasing?
 
So really whatever the age was and whatever the writers of the day wanted... At least in Supergirl she can't breathe in space and they even make note of that fact that she can't go into space on her own. Of course like her cousin I guess different writers can do whatever the heck they want.
 
Gingerbread Demon said:
So really whatever the age was and whatever the writers of the day wanted... At least in Supergirl she can't breathe in space and they even make note of that fact that she can't go into space on her own. Of course like her cousin I guess different writers can do whatever the heck they want.
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Kara on Earth 1 made a big deal about how she needs a planet's gravity "around" her to fly very early on.

Meanwhile in more recent episodes of Superman and Lois, who are not on Earth 1, seriously it took two seasons to confirm that it's not Earth One or Earth Prime, Kryptonian's can fly in space fine.
 
Gingerbread Demon said:
So really whatever the age was and whatever the writers of the day wanted..
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Yes, but this would not have been a problem if the turn-Superman-into-a-Swiss-Army-Knife-in-a-cape movement under Weisinger did not force successors to undo those powers (hence the lack of consistency), just to make Superman not seem like he was the answer to everything. He may have otherworldly powers, but otherworldly does not mean no limitations (within reason for who Superman is supposed to be).
 
Skipper said:
He's Superman. He's always right, you know.
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