True, that's a loss. Definitely a moment where Lester's theatrical version wins.
Superman
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Okay, sorry to back track the convo so much, but I'm confused on something.
As I gleamed from the OP and following couple pages of posts it's assumed the OP didn't like Supergirl's Superman because he lost (or ended in a draw) in a fight with her. ... Right? So it was assumed to be something of a "Men-nist" post and being upset about a emasculated character, right?
But... Hasn't Supergirl always been shown to be a bit more powerful than Superman? The idea being he was raised on Earth since a baby and "held back" his strength and powers to some level because he didn't want to risk harming humans whereas Kara didn't quite have these compulsions since she arrived here as a teenager? She doesn't want to hurt or harm people any more than Superman does necessarily but she also hasn't lived her entire life, or was raised her entire life, to pull her punches.
As I gleamed from the OP and following couple pages of posts it's assumed the OP didn't like Supergirl's Superman because he lost (or ended in a draw) in a fight with her. ... Right? So it was assumed to be something of a "Men-nist" post and being upset about a emasculated character, right?
But... Hasn't Supergirl always been shown to be a bit more powerful than Superman? The idea being he was raised on Earth since a baby and "held back" his strength and powers to some level because he didn't want to risk harming humans whereas Kara didn't quite have these compulsions since she arrived here as a teenager? She doesn't want to hurt or harm people any more than Superman does necessarily but she also hasn't lived her entire life, or was raised her entire life, to pull her punches.
There have also been comics versions that suggested she was stronger because she spent more time in space than he did during her Earth transit, and so sucked up more unfiltered sunlight (IIRC).
But really, nothing good ever comes of discussing the subject.
But really, nothing good ever comes of discussing the subject.
That much is certain. [/Spock]
The Silver/Bronze Age Supergirl's powers were portrayed as being on par with her cousin's. Since the Kryptonian Supergirl returned to continuity about 15-20 years she has been portrayed as being at a higher power level than Superman.
Some people on this board have serious problems that Superman lost in a fight to Supergirl in the CW series--but they have more of a problem that Superman made a point of telling Kara that she beat him because she was stronger and that he was okay with that. Apparently that undermines his status as the most powerful hero. I argue that Superman's strength lies in more than just his powers and that it is entirely in character for him to accept defeat graciously.
Teri Hatcher would have loved to have stood over the corpse of Kal El and spat on it.
It's something that gets brought up in the Lois and Clark episode, "Dead Lois Walking"
http://www.lcficmbs.com/scripts/txt/407.txt
Why exactly would an actress like to spit on the corpse of a fictional character? Does she have a problem with her time on Lois and Clark?
"General, would you care to step outside?" was arguably the best line Superman ever had in a movie.
I kind of prefer "Arghhhhhhhh!!!!" from MoS, or "Stop being Batman!" (Para) from BvS or maybe "...." while frowning and stalking from S:R.
To no one’s greater surprise than my own, one of my favorite lines in Supercinema comes from MoS: “Welcome to the Planet.”
Shouldn’t be surprising. It’s from the best Lois ever (no one else is in the same solar system).
Alyn's version seemed larger than life--more than just some guy in a costume, but selling the unique nature of Superman.
But, this now:
Reeves gives Reeve his only plausible competition for Best Screen Superman Ever.
Eyeroll all you want, but the George Reeves TV series was awful; Reeves' dry, tired uncle/camp counselor "Superman" was so lackluster and captured nothing defining or great about the character.. If there was any way to top the worst of the Weisinger/Swan/Plastino era in comics, it was this series. Superman in Name Only...barely.
^ Eh, no point in arguing about Reeves, since it’s obviously entirely subjective. I personally think he possessed enormous charm and charisma as both Clark and Superman, and made it look effortless.
you don't have him job to supergirl
If I remember correctly, her career pretty much died immediately after the show. Took Desperate Housewives to get her back on track. That was 1997 to 2004.
Welcome to the thread.
To be fair, the George Reeves series was a kid's show. The characters even hocked cereal.
