Spoilers "Superman & Lois" Season 2

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  1. David cgc

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    Can we have another episode yet so we'll have something else to talk about?

    (No, we can't. One more week.)
     
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    Next question up. Is it wrong to tug on Superman's cape?
     
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    No more than messing around with Jim.
     
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    Or spitting into the wind.
     
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    I’d avoid pulling the mask off the old Line Ranger as well.
     
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    Who's the Line Ranger? :beer:
     
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    The Lone Ranger’s lesser known cousin. Based out of Wichita for a time, if memory serves.
     
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    Superman and Lois
    Season 2 - Episode 12 - "Lies that Bind"

    SM/Clark/Lana:
    Lana's "Not enough" retort about Clark once loving her is yet another reason he did not need to reveal his secret to her. She was just elected mayor and has a family going through difficulties--both major responsibilities, but now, she's distraught (despite what she claims) and her expressions read as someone feeling as if she picked the wrong life (in her scene with Kyle at the diner). Once again, this series paints Clark as emotionally immature and clueless about what is necessary and what is not.

    SM arguing to "save" the alt world and that "there's another way" makes him come off as foolish.

    Lana pissed at Lois for not sharing something she had no right to know (and Lois had no right to share), then believing her friendship with Lois was based on a lie (SEE NOTES).

    Alt-Jonathan:
    Alt appearing to warm to the idea of helping SM reads as a set-up. One wonders if SM is naive enough to buy it (or I guess he does, after seeing the production photos).

    Sarah/Lana/Kyle: Hmm...Kyle thinks Lana is "full of secrets". Imagine if he--carrying a broken heart in his hands--learns the big secret. He might be highly susceptible to an outside party wanting to--you guessed it--get to SM through someone who knows his secret....not that's ever happened before...

    Kyle and Sarah's bonding is the best thing about this series.

    Natalie:
    Giving Jonathan a super-suit powered by X-K? Do not be surprised if Jonathan jumps the gun in wanting to suit-up (a likely possibility thanks to the conversation between Sam, Irons and the Kents, or feeling he's lost his way in Smallville), join a fight and ends up being a season cliffhanger.

    Lois: Lana pissed at Lois for not sharing something she had no right to know (and Lois had no right to share), then believing her friendship with Lois is a lie. Welll gee, who could not see that one a-comin'? Hmm? (SEE NOTES)

    Tal-Bro: Making playing make-up with Lois as part of his proving he can be trusted in the fight against the forgettable Ally/pendant/alt-world just gives me the suspicion that he will screw over Super-Gullible again (no matter what form that takes--from helping anything Alt, escaping, whatever). Oh--well, what do you know? Tal-Bro bailed.

    Its possible he will replace the recently killed Alt-Bro and end up with Alt-Lana in that world before its sealed off (similar to Doctor Who, where Rose ended up in the alternate world with the human copy of himself), or die trying to seal it off, but if that happens, thus bringing an end to the Ally/Tal-Bro storylines--fine.

    NOTES:

    Lois telling Lana she's free to tell her family Clark's secret was--as any rational mind would conclude--was irresponsible and clueless (like the writers of this episode). Lois has absolutely no idea how Lana's family will take or or how anyone--in their near-infinite emotional responses--might use that information (other than for the purpose of false soap-opera drama).

    As it turns out, Lana had enough sense to spare her family's lives by keeping the secret to herself. In the next episode, Lana tells Jordan that even Superman cannot save everyone" which is the salient point: civilians are fragile and lack even the most basic of abilities to defend themselves, and if a super-being would have trouble doing that as well, then they (the civilians) need to be as far removed from super-powered danger as possible, not go running toward it, like its a club.

    While Lana seems like the sensible one in wanting her family to have nothing to do with the Kents, I have little faith that she will maintain her position of reason for too long.

    Any reason why Irons and the D.O.D. do not invent more weapons based on Iron's hammer tech?

    GRADE: C-.
     
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  13. David cgc

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    I about died laughing at the global warming joke.
     
  14. JD

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    We got some pretty good stuff with the aftermath of Lana finding out about Clark. It was kinda cool getting the little flashbacks to their lives together.
    I was so glad when it turned Kyle called his ex to get her to set things up for Sarah to sing, I thought he was calling her to get back together.
    Tal's death was unexpected.
     
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    To be clear, I'm 95% sure that was Bizarro-Tal. Though the scene in the volcano after the pendant shattered was shot ambiguously (probably deliberately so), so I've wondered if maybe the explosion somehow threw normal-Tal into Bizarro-World and he didn't actually give Superman and Steel the slip while they were disoriented. We saw Tal regaining consciousness on the ground, but we never saw him with the other two after the blast.
     
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    I had assumed she took him with her, but it being Bizarro Tal would make sense.
     
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  17. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    Clark telling Lana his secret broke my heart more than any other time he's done it in the history of the character.
     
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    Why? It should be happy days for Lana.

    All the mysteries are finally explained.
     
  19. Ryan Thomas Riddle

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    She's heartbroken when she learns his secret and why he really left Smallville.

    "Did you ever love me?"

    That's the part that's heartbreaking. She felt left behind.

    And learning the secret, as seen in the episode, further complicates her life.
     
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  20. KamenRiderBlade

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    But Clark literally came back for her, but she was with Kyle at the time.

    So he headed off to Metropolis.

    It was generally "Bad Timing".