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News Superman & Lois Ordered to Series at The CW

JD said:
The Arrowverse producers love their crossovers, there is absolutely no way we won't get numerous Superman & Lois Lane and Supergirl crossovers.
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I'm wondering if there's some prominent Superman/girl-centric event in DC Comics that could be the basis for a future crossover, centering on the Supercousins and bringing in Flash, Batwoman, White Canary, etc. in supporting roles. There was that New Krypton thing a few years ago, but that's kind of similar to what Supergirl did in its first couple of seasons.
 
Christopher said:
I'm wondering if there's some prominent Superman/girl-centric event in DC Comics that could be the basis for a future crossover, centering on the Supercousins and bringing in Flash, Batwoman, White Canary, etc. in supporting roles. There was that New Krypton thing a few years ago, but that's kind of similar to what Supergirl did in its first couple of seasons.
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The Arrowverse writers/producers have shown that they are quite willing to "adapt" any DC Comics story for their purposes. It'll probably be something out of left field that we won't even be anticipating.

That said, the most obvious one based on established Superman super villains and also based on where certain characters are in the Supergirl series, is Brainiac. It would allow the return of several characters like Mon-El, Imra and Winn. He's also a strong enough villain in theory that it would require multiple heroes to defeat him. It would also allow (if the writers wanted) a smaller-scale crossover involving only the two Super shows.
 
TheMadCloner said:
That said, the most obvious one based on established Superman super villains and also based on where certain characters are in the Supergirl series, is Brainiac. It would allow the return of several characters like Mon-El, Imra and Winn. He's also a strong enough villain in theory that it would require multiple heroes to defeat him.
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Yes, it would be interesting to see Brainy have to confront his evil ancestor.


It would also allow (if the writers wanted) a smaller-scale crossover involving only the two Super shows.
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That's an interesting thought -- instead of doing one mega-crossover, maybe do a few smaller crossovers. Supergirl/Superman, Flash/Legends, Batwoman/Black Lightning. Well, I'd rather see more of the Flash-BL rapport we saw in Crisis, but it's hard to see Batwoman and the Legends pairing off well. (Well, Kate and Sara could certainly hit it off, but Sara's in a committed relationship.) Or maybe instead of just having one December crossover event, have several different crossover pairings throughout the season, exploring the mix of possibilities. A BL/Superman teamup would be interesting, and a "World's Finest" Supergirl/Batwoman team-up would be great.
 
Christopher said:
Yes, it would be interesting to see Brainy have to confront his evil ancestor.
That's an interesting thought -- instead of doing one mega-crossover, maybe do a few smaller crossovers. Supergirl/Superman, Flash/Legends, Batwoman/Black Lightning. Well, I'd rather see more of the Flash-BL rapport we saw in Crisis, but it's hard to see Batwoman and the Legends pairing off well. (Well, Kate and Sara could certainly hit it off, but Sara's in a committed relationship.) Or maybe instead of just having one December crossover event, have several different crossover pairings throughout the season, exploring the mix of possibilities. A BL/Superman teamup would be interesting, and a "World's Finest" Supergirl/Batwoman team-up would be great.
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They could do a riff on the old JSA/JLA format where everyone splits into teams of two or three to battle a menace and then get together for the finale.
I'd like to see Wally and Jen meet. Wally's all mellow and zen and Jen's all serious and intense.
 
TheMadCloner said:
I'm going to assume Lex will be written out of Supergirl by the end of this season and transferred over to Superman?

Unless Jon is going to be double duty on both shows, but I think he'd make more sense being the big bad on Superman than he does on Supergirl. Wouldn't mind a crossover between SG and SM at some point though...
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Spoiler based on reports from leaked pilot script:
I've inadvertently picked up a few weird spoilers about that from those who've read the leaked pilot script. Not completely sure, but I gather the show's Lex may be an alternate-Earth version, in which case he might not be played by Cryer? Seems a strange choice, unless they couldn't get Cryer on an ongoing basis and need to recast.

(And again, to anyone reading: PLEASE spoiler tag anything from the leaked script, and provide a warning that's what the spoiler contains, as I did above. Many of us don't want to know that much detail before the show airs. Thanks.)
 
Christopher said:
Yes, it would be interesting to see Brainy have to confront his evil ancestor.
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That’s where I thought they were eventually going to go when they brought up the character. Too obvious for them not to go there I think.
That's an interesting thought -- instead of doing one mega-crossover, maybe do a few smaller crossovers. Supergirl/Superman, Flash/Legends, Batwoman/Black Lightning. Well, I'd rather see more of the Flash-BL rapport we saw in Crisis, but it's hard to see Batwoman and the Legends pairing off well. (Well, Kate and Sara could certainly hit it off, but Sara's in a committed relationship.) Or maybe instead of just having one December crossover event, have several different crossover pairings throughout the season, exploring the mix of possibilities. A BL/Superman teamup would be interesting, and a "World's Finest" Supergirl/Batwoman team-up would be great.
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I feel like they’re going to get greedy as they know they only have limited timeframes with some of the shows winding down like Flash and Supergirl. We could see multiple smaller crossovers plus the big annual one. At the very least I think they’ll have another Flash/SG one, based off the chemistry Benoist and Gustin have. Possibly even another musical episode, which I’d love. And I can see one or two SG/BW crossovers, possibly even a SG vs. BW storyline. I think there will also be multiple (more than three) SM/SG crossovers as well.
 
The Realist said:
Spoiler based on reports from leaked pilot script:
I've inadvertently picked up a few weird spoilers about that from those who've read the leaked pilot script. Not completely sure, but I gather the show's Lex may be an alternate-Earth version, in which case he might not be played by Cryer? Seems a strange choice, unless they couldn't get Cryer on an ongoing basis and need to recast.

(And again, to anyone reading: PLEASE spoiler tag anything from the leaked script, and provide a warning that's what the spoiler contains, as I did above. Many of us don't want to know that much detail before the show airs. Thanks.)
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Hmm, interesting, thanks for that.

Not sure what to think tbh. On one hand it could be interesting if the writers know how to create stories around multiple versions of Lex, maybe even have them fight against each other in certain respects. On the other, I think sometimes simpler is better, especially with a classic villain like Lex.

I also think it’s a possibility that the SM series is not contemporaneous to the SG series. Different times would allow for different stories, but it would also reduce the number of crossover possibilities.
 
TheMadCloner said:
Hmm, interesting, thanks for that.

Not sure what to think tbh. On one hand it could be interesting if the writers know how to create stories around multiple versions of Lex, maybe even have them fight against each other in certain respects. On the other, I think sometimes simpler is better, especially with a classic villain like Lex.

I also think it’s a possibility that the SM series is not contemporaneous to the SG series. Different times would allow for different stories, but it would also reduce the number of crossover possibilities.
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I adore Cryer as Lex, so can't say I'm too enthusiastic about going with an alt-Lex instead on paper. Still, the decision to cast Cryer in the first place was counterintuitive, and it worked out great. Sometimes these producers know exactly what they're doing, even when you think they don't. OTOH, sometimes they come up with, oh, pretty much this entire season of Supergirl, which has been doubleplusungood. So W(ho)TF knows? I choose to be optimistic about Superman & Lois until proven otherwise.
 
The Realist said:
I adore Cryer as Lex, so can't say I'm too enthusiastic about going with an alt-Lex instead on paper. Still, the decision to cast Cryer in the first place was counterintuitive, and it worked out great. Sometimes these producers know exactly what they're doing, even when you think they don't. OTOH, sometimes they come up with, oh, pretty much this entire season of Supergirl, which has been doubleplusungood. So W(ho)TF knows? I choose to be optimistic about Superman & Lois until proven otherwise.
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Agreed about everything in your post lol. S5 of Supergirl is a total write off, just consider it the ugly duckling season of the series; most shows have one. Every episode is so draining because of the boring storylines and lack of any meaningful character development.

That’s why I’m excited about SM, because I think in some ways it could reinvigorate Supergirl. At the very least it’ll make for some interesting crossover episodes between the two shows, and the presence of another Super show might force Supergirl to hire better writers to keep up (or maybe rehire the ones they lost at the end of Season 4).

Plus if the rumour is true maybe we finally get Bryan Cranston as Lex.
 
^ God, I loved Season 4. It's the most depressing kind of whiplash to go from the exciting characters (Lockwood, Black) and potent narrative and thematic focus of last year, to the pointless Leviathan clusterfuck and the DOA characters (Rojas, Dey) of this.
 
The Realist said:
Not completely sure, but I gather the show's Lex may be an alternate-Earth version, in which case he might not be played by Cryer? Seems a strange choice, unless they couldn't get Cryer on an ongoing basis and need to recast.
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I wonder what that means for Lex Prime then? Since it's apparently a solid fact that we can't have doppelgangers coexisting on the same Earth. At first I thought maybe that was going to be just an inconsistancy in Batwoman, but then they made a reference to it in the last Flash, so it is a thing now.
 
The Realist said:
^ God, I loved Season 4. It's the most depressing kind of whiplash to go from the exciting characters (Lockwood, Black) and potent narrative and thematic focus of last year, to the pointless Leviathan clusterfuck and the DOA characters (Rojas, Dey) of this.
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Yeah, I think two or three of the writers from last season left the show. Explains the drop in quality this season. Crisis also messed up Supergirl more than any other Arrowverse show; all momentum was lost and it seems like the writers didn’t know how to refocus or where they wanted to take the story.

Such a waste of a season. There is still so much unrealized potential in that series.
 
JD said:
I wonder what that means for Lex Prime then? Since it's apparently a solid fact that we can't have doppelgangers coexisting on the same Earth. At first I thought maybe that was going to be just an inconsistancy in Batwoman, but then they made a reference to it in the last Flash, so it is a thing now.
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The Arrowverse isn’t known for its strong internal continuity haha. My guess is that it might not be contemporaneous with the rest of the Arrowverse shows.
 
Yeah, but even if it isn't set at the same time as the other shows, as long as it takes place on the post-Crisis Earth Prime, which it pretty much has to if the Kents have two teenage sons, instead of one baby, then what I mentioned in my spoiler would still apply.
 
JD said:
Yeah, but even if it isn't set at the same time as the other shows, as long as it takes place on the post-Crisis Earth Prime, which it pretty much has to if the Kents have two teenage sons, instead of one baby, then what I mentioned in my spoiler would still apply.
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Fair, although the further away chronologically it takes place from the “present,” the more latitude it gives them to provide an in-universe explanation for what was in the spoiler.
 
If the show features an alternate-reality version of Lex, I think Cryer's Lex is going to end up dying again (permanently this time).

Because we already know with complete certainty that it's set post-CoIE.
 
^ Theoretically there is room for interpretation. None of the heroes on Earth prime know about the continued existence of parallel Earths in this new reality. They still think Oliver put them all on one Earth.
 
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