Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

[Captaindemotion]

One notices a thruline in Superman stories where they try and try and try to explain why no one believed the obviously corroborable theories.

Or are they corroborable? With super-technology you can explain anything, I guess, but say the lithosphere on Earth was thickening to the point it surpassed its buoyancy limit; would we know?

Jor-El is just part of the liberal conspiracy - he only wants you to believe that Krypton is going to blow up because they wants to tax businesses as part of their social engineering and attempts to restrict our freedoms. Many legitimate scientists have shown that his models are wrong and that the changes that we see are simply a natural event that we see every few thousand years.

Bottom line - it's a scam as explained on Kryptofox news by OREIL.-LY

 

[O'Dib]

One notices a thruline in Superman stories where they try and try and try to explain why no one believed the obviously corroborable theories.

Or are they corroborable? With super-technology you can explain anything, I guess, but say the lithosphere on Earth was thickening to the point it surpassed its buoyancy limit; would we know?

JMS made Krypton assploding into an assault by a rival planet in that solar system. Their ages-old war supposedly also explained why neither ever developed enough to expand beyond the system. I forget how Jor-el tried to save the day there. I think he just saw the end coming, and developed the inter-stellar tech in time to save just his son.

I always wanted the red sun to be an artificially brought about expansion that, let's say, the Guardians of the Universe effected eons ago as a last-ditch effort to ground Kryptonians, 'cause they had started pretty much single-handedly conquering civilizations circling yellow stars. Consider, their powers under a yellow sun make sense only if they had evolved on their own planet to thrive in that environment.

Let's say Jor-el figured out that whatever buffers were keeping the sun from expanding even further and swallowing Krypton were about to fail, brought it up with the occupying force, and got kicked off the puppet council for his subversive theories.

 

[N-121973]

Well I wonder what you think of these photos from Superman Homepage of Clark apparently set in Alaska.
http://s323579992.onlinehome.us/news.php?readmore=10375

Spoiler

There's some suggestion that this is Clark Kent wandering the world pre-Superman ala Batman Begins' Bruce Wayne in Prison

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Yep that's the rumour. Bearded Clark looks awesome...here's another link...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=82987

Also they're filming currently in Ucelet, British Columbia which is on Vancouver, Island. The link says 'Vancouver Set', not quite.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Superheroes are built upon the "old-fashioned" concept of people with extraordinary abilities using those abilities to help people. This is just to "naive" for our modern cynical world. "I must be suspicious of anyone claiming to be good, so I don't get burned!". That's why we can't get a decent kid-friendly super-hero film---the "cool" people won't allow it.

Oh, it's always a conspiracy against all that's good and noble - hmm? Fabricating "poor oppressed us" nonsense doesn't make it so.

Studios make films in order to make money. Popular narrative art succeeds by appealing to people's tastes and values. If one is bitter, one can plug in any characterization of people and the world we live in that one chooses so as to have the equation of self-pity balance out.

 

[Misfit Toy]

What they don't tell you is that Jor-El wrote a series of books about sparkling vampires before discovering Krypton was going to explode.

This explains soo much!

 

[Myasishchev]

One notices a thruline in Superman stories where they try and try and try to explain why no one believed the obviously corroborable theories.

Or are they corroborable? With super-technology you can explain anything, I guess, but say the lithosphere on Earth was thickening to the point it surpassed its buoyancy limit; would we know?

Jor-El is just part of the liberal conspiracy - he only wants you to believe that Krypton is going to blow up because they wants to tax businesses as part of their social engineering and attempts to restrict our freedoms. Many legitimate scientists have shown that his models are wrong and that the changes that we see are simply a natural event that we see every few thousand years.

Bottom line - it's a scam as explained on Kryptofox news by OREIL.-LY

I actually meant to add that in an allegorical fashion, rather than strictly making sense in-story, it's an idea that's a lot more relevant now than then.

(Well, maybe I overstate it; fifty million people died in the six years following Superman's introduction. But you take the point.)

I always wanted the red sun to be an artificially brought about expansion that, let's say, the Guardians of the Universe effected eons ago as a last-ditch effort to ground Kryptonians, 'cause they had started pretty much single-handedly conquering civilizations circling yellow stars. Consider, their powers under a yellow sun make sense only if they had evolved on their own planet to thrive in that environment.

Let's say Jor-el figured out that whatever buffers were keeping the sun from expanding even further and swallowing Krypton were about to fail, brought it up with the occupying force, and got kicked off the puppet council for his subversive theories.

I do rather like the idea of Rao being artificially dimmed. I'd make the culprit Brainiac rather than the Guardians, to streamline it.

 

[Nerys Myk]

With Crowe, he probably had some fisticuffs thrown in to his scripts. JUST what everyone loves...ACTION!

I really don't mean this as a personal attack, but why do you seem so bitter about every. little. thing. about this movie? I mean, I'm not saying you can't have any negative opinions, and for all we know it may indeed end up like crap. Personally, I'm skeptical about Snyder. But all that being said, come on...

Because in this "new" age of reboots or "reimaginings", I simply don't like what I have seen...I just don't understand, other than reading some posts on here, that people nowadays don't get what the concept of SuperMAN is really about.

All we can comment on is costume design. Which has very little to do with what Superman is about. If we had a script or even a few clips then we might have grounds to discuss if anyone gets what Superman is about.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

...I just don't understand, other than reading some posts on here, that people nowadays don't get what the concept of SuperMAN is really about.

Been reading it since before you were born, and I get it just fine - better than you, I'm sure. Your posts are mostly simple reactions to surfaces, not to anything worthy of being addressed as the "concept of Superman."

 

[Myasishchev]

There was this one time Superman was naked. Still pretty super though. And mannish.

 

[davejames]

^ Yep that's the rumour. Bearded Clark looks awesome...here's another link...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=82987

Also they're filming currently in Ucelet, British Columbia which is on Vancouver, Island. The link says 'Vancouver Set', not quite.

I love the idea of him wandering the world first, but the beard does make him look awfully old for such an early period of his life.

I wonder if it's maybe something else, such as him being forced to go into hiding for some reason, or him needing to take a break from all the constant media attention. Or maybe it's just Clark going undercover for a story...

 

[A beaker full of death]

Because in this "new" age of reboots or "reimaginings", I simply don't like what I have seen...I just don't understand, other than reading some posts on here, that people nowadays don't get what the concept of SuperMAN is really about.

Sadly, this has been coming on for decades. long gone is the Superman who was a man of action, who knew what he was about and what the right thing to do was. Some people complained that was too simple. They didn't want to read about well-defined heroes, they wanted heroes who were just like them. So out came the adventures of Lois and Clark. Meanwhile, in the comics, Supes has devolved to the point where he's basically Peter Parker with a cape. Though even Spidey doesn't mope around emo-style and whine that he's Earth's savior or whatever the hell Superman Returns was about.
I like Peter Parker. He's like us, and that's cool to read.
But he's not Superman, you know.

Superpussy:

 

[JarodRussell]

^ Yep that's the rumour. Bearded Clark looks awesome...here's another link...

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=82987

Also they're filming currently in Ucelet, British Columbia which is on Vancouver, Island. The link says 'Vancouver Set', not quite.

Maybe there will be a transformation: Bearded Clark --> Clean shaven Superman --> Bearded Clark. That would be awesome.

 

[Myasishchev]

Because in this "new" age of reboots or "reimaginings", I simply don't like what I have seen...I just don't understand, other than reading some posts on here, that people nowadays don't get what the concept of SuperMAN is really about.

Sadly, this has been coming on for decades. long gone is the Superman who was a man of action, who knew what he was about and what the right thing to do was. Some people complained that was too simple. They didn't want to read about well-defined heroes, they wanted heroes who were just like them. So out came the adventures of Lois and Clark. Meanwhile, in the comics, Supes has devolved to the point where he's basically Peter Parker with a cape. Though even Spidey doesn't mope around emo-style and whine that he's Earth's savior or whatever the hell Superman Returns was about.
I like Peter Parker. He's like us, and that's cool to read.
But he's not Superman, you know.

Superpussy:

You have a planet full of people blow up from underneath you twice and try to maintain a positive attitude.

 

[sojourner]

^twice??

 

[Admiral_Young]

I remember Smallville Clark had a beard at least once...I think it was after the season seven finale when the Fortress collapsed during his confrontation with Lex. He was working in Russia or something when Ollie found him. There are comic book examples as well...most of Superman: Exile comes to mind. I am really looking forward to seeing the journey aspect.

 

[Myasishchev]

^twice??

New Krypton.

 

[Bob Karo]

That kinda thing happening once can be chalked up to bad luck. When it happens again you start to think, "Maybe it's me?"

 

[Python Trek]

Superheroes are built upon the "old-fashioned" concept of people with extraordinary abilities using those abilities to help people. This is just to "naive" for our modern cynical world. "I must be suspicious of anyone claiming to be good, so I don't get burned!". That's why we can't get a decent kid-friendly super-hero film---the "cool" people won't allow it.

Oh, it's always a conspiracy against all that's good and noble - hmm? Fabricating "poor oppressed us" nonsense doesn't make it so.

Studios make films in order to make money. Popular narrative art succeeds by appealing to people's tastes and values. If one is bitter, one can plug in any characterization of people and the world we live in that one chooses so as to have the equation of self-pity balance out.

Tour entire post is a non-sequitor, so I don't know how to issue a rebuttal, other than to ask you to please re-read (or is that read the first time?) my actual post. Thanks.

Cheers!

 

[Captaindemotion]

If anyone wants some actual Superman news, here's pics of Amy Adams as Lana Lang...er, Lois Lane (the red hair really makes her look like Lana, IMHO):

http://www.totalfilm.com/news/amy-adams-lois-lane-snapped-on-man-of-steel-set