Superman (casting, rumors, pix till release)

[Captaindemotion]

Here is a new pic..I really love this suit and that cape is very cool.

Nice. And a super-villain in the background, I see.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

I don't think the new suit looks either less or more ridiculous than Christopher Reeve's suit. Both are really equally ridiculous-looking. Also, there's nothing intrinsically objectionable about the new suit. It's equally as arbitrary to any of the older suits going back to the original.

As has been essentially pointed out upthread, if purism were the highest ideal, we must never have allowed Superman's appearance to depart from that in Action Comics #1.

I'm much happier with the new suit than the one in Superman Returns. It can only be Superman's, and the character in that picture can only be Superman.

Is that picture a manip or not? Can people please say when they are posting manips and/or where their images come from? Thanks. (ETA: I see you did that, Space Therapist. Thanks.)

 

[davejames]

I thought that was a fan manip?

It was on Nuke the Fridge.com so I am not sure.

Yes it's a manip, from one of the spy pics. It's a very good one though.

 

[Samurai8472]

Nice. And a super-villain in the background, I see.

 

[Trekker4747]

"Junk" is a common, and acceptable, slang term for a man's genitals, his package, his batch, his meat and two veg, his ball and tackle, his ladymaker, his cloaks and dagger and whatever other term you want to use.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

You forgot frank and beans.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Here is a new pic..I really love this suit and that cape is very cool.

Very cool.

There's nothing "muted" or "grim" about that outfit. It's just a colder and less intense blue than most versions of the suit.

 

[Trekker4747]

You forgot frank and beans.

Franks and beans!

 

[Misfit Toy]

Found on Bleeding Cool:

 

[Skywalker]

In the end, they came up just a bit too short.

 

[Gojira]

Found on Bleeding Cool:

Great!!!!!!!

 

[Turtletrekker]

Found on Bleeding Cool:

For the win!

 

[Kai "the spy"]

As for "is it's purpose really to stand out": Of course, it is. If it wasn't supposed to stand out, he'd wear something else.

This is a conclusion you've come to - possibly based on an explanation provided at some point somewhere in the history of the comic - but simply because the logic of it satisfies you doesn't make it so. It's not a fact, not even within the fictional continuity, which anyone has to accept as a premise and reason from.

It doesn't convince me one bit, for the reasons I explained before, and therefore doesn't matter.

Superman dresses in the costume that he does because the kids who created him wanted him to dress that way. There's no other real reason for it. The most likely explanation is simply that they were presenting him in four-color comic format, aiming the stories at youngsters, and wanted to take full advantage of the available palette.

In other words, they wanted him to stand out.

Any "in-story" rationale was constructed later. One is as good as another. The most plausible - even in its silliness, it makes the most sense - is that his costume had to be of Kryptonian origin for him to not wind up flouting his junk, as Joe Zhang puts it, every time he blocks an explosion with his body or something.

Again, that explains why the suit has to be made of these specific materials, but not why it's designed like that.

But that's just what makes the most sense to me. I buy it more than "he wants to stand out (okay, I don't buy that one at all)." You prefer the "look at me!" explanation. That's fine. Jumping from "this is what I prefer to believe" to "what the filmmakers are doing doesn't make sense/is wrong because they're not taking into account the character's reason for dressing that way" is a non-starter.

I hope you're not accusing me of that, because I think I made it clear in my posts that I was merely giving my personal opinion and not stating facts.

Muted colors look grim, not inspiring. At least, I think so. And I like my Superman to be inspiring. Sure, he can be made to inspire through his actions in the new movie, but that won't be underlined by his costume. As far as I see it, the new movie's costume hampers Superman's purpose to inspire, and that's a big minus.

Spider-Man came across as a pretty damn inspiring character in the Raimi movies, and that blue was much darker than this-- and much darker than it often appeared in the comics as well. In fact Spidey's costume has probably gone through as many different shades of blue over the years as Superman's has.

The idea that people can ONLY be inspired by a superhero costume where every color is as bold and intense as can be just... makes no sense to me.

The part of my quote - which you've obviously overlooked - is bold now. I never said it was a requirement for the colors of the costume to be bold and bright in order to make the character inspiring.

Kai "the spy", while I can't speak for the other flags, and I'm not going to take the time to research your post, I can tell you definitely that the colors you have labeled as "Bright" for the flag of the United States are not the colors that are officially required for the flag when it is used by the U.S. federal government.

Scientific color matching requires properly calibrated equipment and careful control of many factors. The colors given at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States#Colors derive from specifications approved by the General Services Administration, and you can see its reference chain there. I checked part of that chain and it appears to be valid. Besides the codes derived directly from the GSA-approved specification, the Pantone Approximations are particularly noteworthy, because the codes provided for them are from government sources and they are explicitly designed for display on the Internet.

In any case, when used by the U.S. federal government, the colors of the flag of the United States are supposed to be considerably more muted than the colors you label in your post as "Bright". I believe this undermines a large part of your argument.

You are right, I did brighten the colors up a bit. I wasn't actually trying to give an accurate sample of the official colors, I merely wanted to compare two versions, bright and bold with muted, and let everyone see for themselves which of these look more inspiring. If I was misleading, it was not on purpose, I assure you.

Found on Bleeding Cool:

Hello, new av!

 

[A beaker full of death]

I get it. It's his super-motorcross suit! All he needs is a helmet.

How do ya like my concept art for the new Green Lantern suit? Should be right popular.

 

[Samurai8472]

Found on Bleeding Cool:

With my time machine...

 

[Admiral_Young]

^ Now that's awesome All this talk about Clark's suit everyone has been ignoring Faora. I think her costume is great.

 

[Captain Craig]

Just as an aside I find it interesting to see very similar looking actors in mo-cap suits in this new pic when we've seen them in The Avengers shoot so recently.

Those mo-cap guys get around.

 

[Admiral_Young]

We've seen shots of Michael Shannon in slow mo cap suits as well last month. Everyone's been distracted nitpicking the suit rather than discussing the more interesting things going on during the shoot.

 

[Samurai8472]

Just as an aside I find it interesting to see very similar looking actors in mo-cap suits in this new pic when we've seen them in The Avengers shoot so recently.

Those mo-cap guys get around.

I was going to make a thread about the use of mo-cap suits in movies nowadays. I was whether people were yay or nay about them.

 

[A beaker full of death]

Just as an aside I find it interesting to see very similar looking actors in mo-cap suits in this new pic when we've seen them in The Avengers shoot so recently.

Those mo-cap guys get around.

Dunno what that is, but I have a right sharp mohair suit.