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Spoilers Superman (2025) Grade and Discussion

How would you rate Superman?

  • You'll believe a man can fly

    Votes: 22 37.3%
  • A

    Votes: 8 13.6%
  • A-

    Votes: 10 16.9%
  • B+

    Votes: 10 16.9%
  • B

    Votes: 5 8.5%
  • B-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • C

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • C-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • D

    Votes: 1 1.7%
  • D-

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F+

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • F

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • A pocket full of Kryptonite

    Votes: 2 3.4%

  • Total voters
    59
Yeah the score isn’t great. Usually DC films have a good recognisable theme for each hero but this didn’t have that sadly. Relying too much on the old ‘78 one.

Can't say I was a fan of how they used Williams' theme.

Looks like this fillm will easily make it's money back and probably post a hefty profit.

Hmm. I don't think hefty profit is in play.

Anyhoo. Saw it a couple of days back.

I liked it. Did I love it? Well, I did love how unabashedly it embraced the comic book setting.

Definitely a film I need to see again to soak it all in.

The pacing was fairly relentless. I feel it could have used a bit more room to breathe. Would've liked a bit more between Lois and Clark (great chemistry between the two actors).

Casting was top-notch all round. Guy Gardener and Mr. Terrific were personal favs. Loved Supergirl at the end.

Entertaining enough, but not without flaws (which is fine).

7.5 / 10
 
The film makes it clear multiple times the message is real - the conversation with Pa is pointless if it is not.

Unless the Architect made some kind of error putting the message. I wouldn't object to the message turning out to be corrupted somehow, but for all intents and purposes everyone in the movie believes the message to be real. Clark didn't need to rely on a translation to understand the message, and Mr. Terrific did not doubt its legitimacy.

Based on the Supergirl cameo, if the message were true then that would mean that it is a truth that Kara has been hiding. It will be interesting to see if we learn more when her film comes out.
 
Unless the Architect made some kind of error putting the message. I wouldn't object to the message turning out to be corrupted somehow, but for all intents and purposes everyone in the movie believes the message to be real. Clark didn't need to rely on a translation to understand the message, and Mr. Terrific did not doubt its legitimacy.

Based on the Supergirl cameo, if the message were true then that would mean that it is a truth that Kara has been hiding. It will be interesting to see if we learn more when her film comes out.
Given the way authentication works in computer science, it's not difficult to devise encoding schemes that support the virtually certain authentication of an entire message. The world's computer experts agreed that the message was authentic, so they must have had theoretical reasons to come to that conclusion; for a reasonable possibility for how they might have been able to do that, see the first sentence. I doubt forgery of the recovered piece is on the table.
 
One thing I didn’t get is how Superman knew it was Luthor that broke into his fortress. Luthor said they have not met until then.
 
I have never bought into the idea some fans have a central part of the mythos is the tragedy in Krypton destruction was it was perfect utopia. I do not care what version, going back to beginning no on the council believes Jor-El! They ignored their own looming demise. Kryptonians had a hugely flawed culture. Most versions that claim otherwise ignored their own text. Not just Zod, all versions. The very idea of the Phantom Zone is very messed up. It’s living in Hell. Really the use of Krypton in most stories is Superman having to deal with the side effects of its mistake--s.

I think from the point of view of the Kryptonians, their planet was a Utopia. In the comics, we did have Byrne's cold scientist approach to Krypton--which might have been Gunn's intended vision of Krypton in this movie. Both the movie and Byrne's stories approach Superman's goodness as coming from his human upbringing rather than any connection to Krypton.
 
Were Jor-El and Lana Polyamorous or polygamous too?

Or did they have to specifically layout their son's methodology and orientation, in that video letter, because it would have been seen as abnormal back home?
 
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Given the way authentication works in computer science, it's not difficult to devise encoding schemes that support the virtually certain authentication of an entire message. The world's computer experts agreed that the message was authentic, so they must have had theoretical reasons to come to that conclusion; for a reasonable possibility for how they might have been able to do that, see the first sentence. I doubt forgery of the recovered piece is on the table.

Yeah the film makes it clear multiple ways the message is real - besides what we see in the film it also would make the ending a nonsense if it was fake or wrong.
 
Steve Shives:


I got my first exposure to Superman with Christopher Reeves as Superman.
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I first encountered Superman in a story drawn by Wayne Boring. I'm pretty sure part of it took place on Krypton.

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Reeves came along a little later, in afternoon reruns of a series that ended production when I was four.

The movies with Reeve were made when I was an adult. He was fine, but he wasn't especially "my" Superman.
 
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I've also heard the name Mercer was chosen a reference to Mercy Graves from STAS, but I don't know if that's true or not.
Beginning with the show's eighth year, the writers introduced Tess as the mysterious new head of LuthorCorp who was determined to find Lex. She was written to echo both Eve Teschmacher from 1978 film, and Mercy Graves from the 1990s animated series. Tess' red hair was ultimately revealed as a clue to her lineage, when she discovers her birth certificate in Season 10's "Abandoned" (her mother was Lex's nanny Pamela Jenkins from Season 1's "Crush").
 
Okay. I liked it. Perfect? No. Do i like how they nerfed his strength? not really. Did i like Nick's portrail of Lex? Oh yes. He done good, 2nd best one after Jon Cryer.

Did it have Left Right Center politics in it.. No not really. ( Why Fox news went on the woke train on this one is a mystery to me..)

So, I enjoyed it, hope it makes alot of money, and so far, looking forward to the new DC fare in the future. ( Where's my Batman Beyond...)
 
I have never bought into the idea some fans have a central part of the mythos is the tragedy in Krypton destruction was it was perfect utopia. I do not care what version, going back to beginning no on the council believes Jor-El! They ignored their own looming demise. Kryptonians had a hugely flawed culture. Most versions that claim otherwise ignored their own text. Not just Zod, all versions. The very idea of the Phantom Zone is very messed up. It’s living in Hell. Really the use of Krypton in most stories is Superman having to deal with the side effects of its mistakes.
I like how the pompous Council members in the 1978 film referred to the Phantom Zone as "an eternal living death", almost in a mocking tone...only for Jor-El's solemn reply - "A chance for life, nonetheless...as opposed to us!" One of his fellow members claims that Jor-El discovered the Zone, while "Smallville" claimed he purposely created it to protect Krypton from the most evil and rebellious in their society. The AI version of Jor-El in the Fortress even told Clark that the Zone wasn't just home to physical prisoners - Zod's spirit was sentenced there and his body destroyed, while Bizarro was a genetics experiment gone awry.
 
It's fine. Some of the scenes were cool, but it's mostly an overly dramatic, self-indulgent mess like most of Synder's work.
I thought MOS was only an okay film until we got to the last 20 minutes which was just a smash and crash wankfest. Just people punching each other and destroying things over and over with that dreary music. It got to the point I checked my watch to see how much longer this was going to go on. I get that some people like to watch fightfests, but for me it went on WAY to long. I wasn't a fan of the washed out color look which I was already getting tired of even then. Plus I can't stand a Superman that rarely talks and is always gloomy. I expect that in Batman, not Superman.
 
Did it have Left Right Center politics in it.. No not really. ( Why Fox news went on the woke train on this one is a mystery to me..)

As I understand it, the whole kurfluffle started when Variety, misquoted/took out of context Gunn’s fairly tame comments and the right wing twitterverse swallowed the tabloid bait whole and so on and so forth.
 

Mine was the George Reeves tv show I saw as reruns as a kid. It was old but still a lot of fun to watch. A few years ago I started watching them again. Still a great show even for modern times. The first season is more realistic and grounded like mystery movies with gangsters. A bit more geared to adults. The later seasons get more campy and kid friendly but are also great because after all its a comic book character. Really really great show.
 
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