In the Arrow: Season 2.5 comics, an issue (number 16) had Oliver mention Superman during a discussion with Huntress. If we go with Guggenheim (who wrote the issue) being serious with that reference, it sounds like Oliver is aware of Superman but that he is not really known to the general public. Like Kara, he could have been keeping his powers hidden and then publicly come out during whatever time gap exists between seasons three and four of Arrow.
Supergirl TV Series is being work on.
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The reference I cited isn't vague, and Entertainment Weekly isn't going to just mention something without having fully vetted it for factual accuracy. They have a reputation to protect as far as their legitimacy as a credible entertainment news entity is concerned.
I didn't like it.
First, if they were going to show that much in a trailer, just show us the pilot entirely.. I feel like I've already watched it. Secondly, as bad as the Supergirl film from the 80's was, it was redeemed by a sincere performance from Slater.. she was commanding as the hero in a way that Benoist isn't.. Benoist seemed the same in both her civilian role and as Supergirl. This material is really kitschy, and since superheroes are all over the place in our culture, there is little new that this could bring to the table aside form attaching a certain tone to it, and I can respect the tone they DID attach to it, even if I don't like it. There is a certain self-aware quality to the tone I respected, but it was rolled up into a package that had a bunch of cliched characters and situations. Gotham was a show that I liked more than most people, and I liked it because it also was a cliche cop show mixed with a cliche gangster epic mixed with an over-the-top comic book feel but in the end that just seemed to work for me.. partly because I'd rather watch a cop show than a chick-show.
First, if they were going to show that much in a trailer, just show us the pilot entirely.. I feel like I've already watched it. Secondly, as bad as the Supergirl film from the 80's was, it was redeemed by a sincere performance from Slater.. she was commanding as the hero in a way that Benoist isn't.. Benoist seemed the same in both her civilian role and as Supergirl. This material is really kitschy, and since superheroes are all over the place in our culture, there is little new that this could bring to the table aside form attaching a certain tone to it, and I can respect the tone they DID attach to it, even if I don't like it. There is a certain self-aware quality to the tone I respected, but it was rolled up into a package that had a bunch of cliched characters and situations. Gotham was a show that I liked more than most people, and I liked it because it also was a cliche cop show mixed with a cliche gangster epic mixed with an over-the-top comic book feel but in the end that just seemed to work for me.. partly because I'd rather watch a cop show than a chick-show.
I wonder which Superman is canon to this Supergirl series.
Smallville
or
Man of Steel
Neither.
Do we know for sure that the footage in the trailer is solely from the pilot?
I don't believe anything else has been shot yet, so I'd say it's a good bet that everything in the trailer is from the Pilot.
The reference is very vague. It's not a quote, not a paraphrase or even close. In fact. the closest you can get when searching the web for an actual quote is way more "no" than "yes".
http://comicbook.com/2015/01/12/greg-berlanti-talks-supergirls-potential-to-crossover-with-arrow/
I'm watching Gotham but like AoS, I find it very disappointing. If I had to choose, I'd watch Supergirl, at least, unless it proves a disappointment.
Not that I recall, but they have a blurry shot of him and Olsen seems older than he's usually portrayed and knows who Kara is *and* has the cape. It's a fair assumption that in this universe, Kal is already well established.
I suppose it's possible they could make it part of the backstory that he's been gone for some time a la 'Superman Returns'. I mean if thi is really supposed to be in the same universe as Arrow and Flash it seems odd that nobody has EVER mentioned the god like alien flying around Metropolis.
I'm split. Some of it looked good with potential, some of it looked.... oy. It had a sort-of office-place movie/tv series coming-of-age story with a heavy "chick-flick" bend. The stuck-up bitch boss, she a clumsy intern or whatever. Yawn.
The "hero" stuff looked decent but I wonder how much of that will be the series and how much of it will be this other show.
And is this in continuity with MoS and the Justice League path? Or is WB/DC going to have multiple different canons going instead of one cohesive universe like Marvel is doing? Gotham is already on its own bath and Flash/GA are on *their* own path so where does this show lie?
I'll check the show out when it comes out but I'm on the fence right now. It could go either way, the show will either be a good superhero show with the right mix between the private life and the hero life or we'll be dealing with office-place antics and romances with an action-piece near the end of the episode.
The "hero" stuff looked decent but I wonder how much of that will be the series and how much of it will be this other show.
And is this in continuity with MoS and the Justice League path? Or is WB/DC going to have multiple different canons going instead of one cohesive universe like Marvel is doing? Gotham is already on its own bath and Flash/GA are on *their* own path so where does this show lie?
I'll check the show out when it comes out but I'm on the fence right now. It could go either way, the show will either be a good superhero show with the right mix between the private life and the hero life or we'll be dealing with office-place antics and romances with an action-piece near the end of the episode.
The tone of the 'normal' life did almost seem like a parody, especially when compared with the SNL Black Widow sketch, but the 'super' life seems fun.
As for Superman and his appearance, perhaps once Kara establishes herself he'll say something like, "Now that I know Metropolis is in safe hands there's something I need to do in space," and he can disappear for a while.
Of course I'd prefer it if Superman was just part of the show but that's not going to happen.
As for Superman and his appearance, perhaps once Kara establishes herself he'll say something like, "Now that I know Metropolis is in safe hands there's something I need to do in space," and he can disappear for a while.
Of course I'd prefer it if Superman was just part of the show but that's not going to happen.
Although it will likely never come up - he maybe started as Superboy given that Olson looks to be 25ish and the pilot explicitly states that Krypton blew up 24 years ago so without some convoluted reason why not - Superman is 25-ish himself?
(Also and this means less than nothing - James photo is a painting - no money in the budget for a little photoshop?)
And, I dunno. Calista Flockhart strikes me as way too old to play Cat Grant. I mean, Cat is supposed to be a relatively young -probably a Millennial in this day and age- pop-journalism obsessed near-airhead. Not some 50-year-old woman who's sort of a bitch.
The SNL BW sketch really puts a light on this new show that it doesn't want since it's nearly note-for-note identical.
The SNL BW sketch really puts a light on this new show that it doesn't want since it's nearly note-for-note identical.
I don't know, seems what they're going for to an extent. I think it looks fun, at least it's not another police procedural hybrid. Might not want every show like this but maybe there's room for one.
Agreed. We're talking about sci-fi/fantasy, after all -- and one of the Flash's powers in the comics is the ability to cross between alternate universes. So saying that a crossover between the shows is contractually permitted, which is what Berlanti said, is not necessarily the same thing as confirming that they're in the same reality. They could potentially be part of the same multiverse rather than the same universe. So we shouldn't jump to conclusions when there's more than one possible interpretation of the statement.
Its own original version, of course. Who may eventually show up for a sweeps episode.
After all, the version of Krypton we saw in the trailer was not the same one we saw in any previous series or film.
I wish they'd shown the whole pilot too, but the trailer certainly sold me on the series. It's not like a movie trailer spoiling the ending, since a pilot is just the beginning of the series.
It's a comics-based superhero series with a female lead. Even Agent Carter doesn't give us that, since Peggy isn't a superhero. And AKA Jessica Jones will be about an ex-superhero. So this will be pretty much the first live-action TV series headlined by a female comics superhero since Painkiller Jane in 2007, and the first on network TV since Birds of Prey a dozen years ago. Breaking the glass ceiling is, in and of itself, bringing something new and different to the table, and something long overdue.
Well, it's fortunate that networks are no longer limiting themselves to targeting only a male demographic when it comes to superheroes. You talk about them making shows for a wider range of tastes as if it were a bad thing, but it isn't. The more people who love comics and sci-fi/fantasy heroes, the better it is for all of fandom.
The movies are completely separate from the shows, produced by different divisions of Warner Bros. The difference between Marvel's and DC's screen efforts is that Marvel Studios is its own production entity founded by Marvel, whereas DC Entertainment is just one division of the pre-existing WB, which has its own established, separate film and TV production divisions. It's vanishingly unlikely that we'll see any DC television series that are in continuity with the movies. And that's good, because so far we have no idea whether the movie universe will succeed or be a disaster. The shows are better off keeping their distance.
The show is not set in Metropolis. It's in "National City."
And characters have been reinterpreted for the screen before. Berlanti and Guggenheim have a history of turning comics characters into something entirely different from what they were in the comics -- see Felicity Smoak, Caitlin Snow, or Cisco Ramon. For that matter, Marvel's done the same in the MCU; characters like Lance Hunter, Mack McKenzie, and Eric Koenig of Agents of SHIELD or Roger Dooley and Johann Fennhoff of Agent Carter have been entirely different characters than they were in the comics, or at least transposed to different eras. And Gotham has certainly played around with the relative ages of its characters as well as their relative status (e.g. making Bullock Gordon's partner rather than Montoya's, making Bullock and Montoya contemporaries of Gordon, or making Sarah Essen Jim Gordon's boss instead of his equal-ranked colleague). Heck, Supergirl is taking Winslow Schott, the villainous Toyman, and turning him into Kara's best friend and confidante. Making Cat Grant more mature is minor next to that.
"Earth doesn't have just one hero anymore?" Okay, that kinda suggests it isn't in the Arrow/Flash universe, if it only had one hero before.
And it's clearer now that everyone in that whole huge intelligence agency knows Supergirl's real name, since they were all there listening when Alex called her "Kara" over the comms.
I see from the production video that they're doing her cape digitally in the flight scenes.
And it's clearer now that everyone in that whole huge intelligence agency knows Supergirl's real name, since they were all there listening when Alex called her "Kara" over the comms.
I see from the production video that they're doing her cape digitally in the flight scenes.
Given the series' official description and certain other factors, I'm starting to think that she won't have a 'secret identity' as such (kind of like Iron Man), which I think is a neat deviation from the norm.
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