Supergirl TV Series is being work on.

[theenglish]

Any one seen Louie last season?

Louie's black wife is the mother of their two lily white Irish catholic blonde girls.

At first I thought it was adoption.

Then when it became clear that she was the biological mother, I just assumed it was don't ask, don't tell because Louie was ####ing with convention, reality and us.

I think I've mentioned elsewhere, but my wife is Latina and my twin children look remarkably different. My son's skin is pale white like my and my daughter is much darker. My friend's wife is very dark skin and used to come home crying because people would assume she was the nanny when she took her daughter shopping. Prejudice against dark skin is quite strong in part of Latin America still.

 

[Silvercrest]

The male equivalent to "girl" is "boy." It's rare to hear a male adult called a boy -- except in some unfortunate racial usages of the past.

IME, women in their 20s refer to men in their 20s as "boys" all the time, especially when it comes to dating, though I agree it'd be weird if the general public referred to a 25-year-old super-guy as "Superboy". And while "Superwoman" is both logical and pleasing, that extra syllable is not quite ideal.

Perhaps "Superdame" is the way to go. Or "Supermiss". "Superbroad"? No, that's gauche. "Superqueen"? Too LGBTQ. Of course, we haven't discussed the prospect of a trans Supergirl... okay, let's not go there this week. Not before I quit sniffing glue.

Wait. Wait. Got it. "Supercoz". 'Cause no matter how much she achieves, the world will always see her as a certain man's cousin. No, that's not so good either, is it.

Well, shoot; I guess I vote "Superwoman" after all. Damn the torpedoes! Go down with the ship!

Superlass.

 

[Christopher]

Shaka Zulu,

So you really think "the public" would reject someone who looked like my daughters as Supergirl?

People who use that kind of argument tend to forget that "the public" consists of more than just white people. In fact, white people will be a minority in America within half a century. The greater diversity we see in fiction these days is just fiction starting to catch up with reality, though it's still lagging well behind.

IME, women in their 20s refer to men in their 20s as "boys" all the time, especially when it comes to dating, though I agree it'd be weird if the general public referred to a 25-year-old super-guy as "Superboy".

Okay, good to know.

And while "Superwoman" is both logical and pleasing, that extra syllable is not quite ideal.

Perhaps "Superdame" is the way to go. Or "Supermiss". "Superbroad"? No, that's gauche. "Superqueen"? Too LGBTQ. Of course, we haven't discussed the prospect of a trans Supergirl... okay, let's not go there this week. Not before I quit sniffing glue.

Superperson.

Then again, if we get too worried about egalitarian language, then wouldn't the "Super-" part have to go too?

Consider that most long-time established comic characters who are white were drawn that way because of the times they were created. I have been a little disheartened that DC's various worthy attempts to diversify its skin tone palette over the last decade or so have faltered.

Quite right. Not all "traditions" should be preserved. Indeed, many of the creators of comics back then would've probably welcomed the opportunity to include nonwhite characters if the censorship and prejudices of the time had allowed them to. After all, most of the great comics creators of the Golden and Silver Ages were Jewish sons of immigrants, so they were themselves ethnic minorities who faced prejudice on a regular basis. That's why so many of them coded their characters as outsiders even though they were drawn white. Superman was overtly an immigrant (an illegal one, arguably) and had a very Moses-like origin story. Wonder Woman was also an immigrant and a feminist in an age of male dominance. The Thing is feared for the way he looks and despairs of ever being accepted. Spider-Man has the press vilifying his name at every turn. The X-Men are blatantly a parallel for minorities -- originally for ethnic or religious minorities, these days for sexual minorities. The Hulk has a different skin color and is hounded by the authorities as a public menace even when he just wants to be left alone.

So insisting that classic comics characters need to be white is missing the point. They were only white because they had to be in order to get their books published in a racist age. Dig beneath the surface drawings, and many of them are implicitly minorities in spirit.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Mistress is an old word for unmarried woman.

 

[Gaith]

Superlass.

Ach, and a bloomin' super super-lass she be, by the Blarney Stone!



... Also,

Topless Robot: The 5 Best
(and 5 Worst) Supergirl Costumes

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[Taylirious]

Superchick!

ETA: Darn; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superchick

 

[Enterprise is Great]

character descriptions

For Kara Zor-El aka Kara Danvers, the show is eyeing Caucasian females, age 22 to 26, to play 24. As the series’ mythology goes, Kara at age 12 was sent from her dying home planet of Krypton to Earth, where she was taken in by the Danvers, a foster family who taught her to be careful with her extraordinary powers. After repressing said skills for more than a decade, Kara is forced to bust out her super moves in public during an unexpected disaster. Energized by her heroism for the first time in her life, she begins embracing her abilities in the name of helping the people of her city, earning herself a super moniker along the way.

The other lead role currently being cast is that of 26-year-old Alexandra “Alex” Danvers, Kara’s gorgeous, brilliant, science-minded foster sister. Growing up, Alex was partly jealous of her sibling yet also fascinated by her abilities, prompting Alex to learn as much as she could about alien anthropology, sociology and culture. Today, Alex works for a secret government organization and, alongside her heroic sis, will face many challenges, both mundane and super.

 

[sojourner]

Alex? "Lex" -

Wow, that's incredibly lazy.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Similarity in name means diddly squat.

 

[sojourner]

^ Similarity in name means diddly squat.

Did you miss the "brilliant scientist, jealous of her sister" bits?

That's lazy.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Similarity in name means diddly squat.

Did you miss the "brilliant scientist, jealous of her sister" bits?

That's lazy.

I have never seen Lex be described as either a "brilliant scientist" or "jealous" of what Superman can do.

So, how, exactly, does the character description of Alex Danvers have anything to do with Lex LUTHOR other than name similarity, which, as noted, means diddly squat?

 

[Agent Richard07]

I have never seen Lex be described as either a "brilliant scientist" or "jealous" of what Superman can do.

He's both. He's a scientist in some incarnations and as for the jealously, he used to be the big hotshot until Superman showed up. Gotta be some jealousy there.

 

[davejames]

Gotta say, after seeing their great work on Flash, I'm now even more excited to see what they do with Supergirl.

 

[DigificWriter]

Even if they ARE going for a Clark/Lex analogue of sorts, how is that "lazy"?

 

[kirk55555]

^ Similarity in name means diddly squat.

Did you miss the "brilliant scientist, jealous of her sister" bits?

That's lazy.

I have never seen Lex be described as either a "brilliant scientist" or "jealous" of what Superman can do.

I don't know if there will be a connection between the sister and Luthor, but Lex Luthor has been a genius scientist for a long time, in most incarnations since probably before Crisis on Infinite earths. Heck, even when he became a businessman, he stayed a genius. He was also genius in the DCAU and even Superman Returns. I guess you could argue that he doesn't always act like a generic "scientist", which he doesn't, but I can't remember the last mainstream comic/tv version that wasn't a genius, who used science and technology to further his agenda. Even Gene Hackman's movie version could probably be called a genius, although probably more of a criminal mastermind than a genius scientist/inventor.

 

[Christopher]

I have never seen Lex be described as either a "brilliant scientist" or "jealous" of what Superman can do.

He's both. He's a scientist in some incarnations and as for the jealously, he used to be the big hotshot until Superman showed up. Gotta be some jealousy there.

Yes, absolutely. The Lex Luthor of the Silver Age was fundamentally defined by both qualities: He was one of the world's greatest scientific geniuses, but his envy and resentment of Superman were so great that he devoted all his energies to fighting Superman rather than doing good. (See also Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman, a more modern take on a Silver Age-style Superman universe.) And the post-Crisis businessman Lex has also been defined fundamentally by his jealousy of Superman; he wants to be the most powerful and important man in the world, and can't tolerate the fact that Superman is more powerful and more admired.

I think the only way one could have avoided seeing Lex portrayed in those terms is if one had no experience with the character outside of live-action productions from the 1970s and after. The Gene Hackman/Kevin Spacey version of Luthor was nothing like the comics character, and the Smallville version didn't have a Superman per se to be jealous of. (The first live-action Luthor, in 1950's Atom Man vs. Superman, was definitely a brilliant scientist.)

 

[Guy Gardener]

What about the Lex Luthor from the Superboy TV series?

 

[The Old Mixer]

Notice what's missing in that description?

Superman.

A world with Supergirl but no Superman...I dunno....

(The BBS's spell-check agrees with me...as I type this, there's a red squiggly under her name, but not his....)

 

[Greg Cox]

Even if they ARE going for a Clark/Lex analogue of sorts, how is that "lazy"?

Or even all that new. Remember Nasthalthia ("Nasty") Luthor from the old Silver Age SUPERGIRL comics? She was Lex's evil niece who was a thorn in Supergirl's side for years.

So giving this Supergirl her own version of Lex is just what the original comics did way back when.

Works for me.

 

[Christopher]

^I remember Nasthalthia from All-Star Superman, but I had no idea she was a pre-existing character.