Spoilers "Supergirl": the 6th and final season

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  1. Guy Gardener

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    Krypton was not destroyed by an environmental collapse.

    They tapped the core as a power source.

    Astra the hippy protested it.

    Then Indigo sabotaged the core tap and "blue" up the planet.

    But they never said why?

    She dug Non.

    Astra's husband.

    Maybe she was dumb, and thought that Astra and Alura were the same woman?

    So she humiliated Astra, who was also Alura, by blowing up Krypton so that she could have Non?

    It sounds dumb...

    But in the end Indigo got her man.

    Oh.

    That was earth One, and this is Earth Prime.

    ####.

    Did no one tell Morgan Edge about Argo City?

    Or...

    They had to tap the core because all their wind turbines and solar collectors were broken by the environmental collapse?

    Zor-El is not your Father... Unless there is only one Phantom Zone?

    But that would mean that her'd have to have been trapped in the Zone for 16 billion years, not the 40 odd years that he said he'd been.
     
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  2. Christopher

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    I'm glad they didn't have Kara shake off the trauma of her Phantom Zone experience right away. It's good to show that it's had an impact. But having Zor-El decide "We need to save your world from pollution now" and have him almost destroy it with a hasty plan was... well, a nice idea in principle, but way too rushed and contrived in order to cram it all into a single episode. Look, Zor, the Earth's been in danger for a long time now, and it's kind of solipsistic to assume that the pivotal crisis point will arrive immediately after you discover the problem. You can take your time sorting this out.


    I doubt Zeta-Rho would've been satisfied by a small space island holding a few hundred survivors. He wanted to turn Earth into a new Krypton, and he conditioned his son to settle for nothing less.

    I'm more bothered by why Clark's version of the Fortress doesn't include Kelex.


    No, they're a worldwide multimedia conglomerate whose assets include a namesake magazine, TV networks, online media, and at least one newspaper, the National City Tribune. That's why they're called CatCo Worldwide Media.
     
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  3. DigificWriter

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    Yep.

    The show itself has never been ambiguous about what CatCo is and what it controls. Any confusion on that front stems from audience members not paying attention.
     
  4. TREK_GOD_1

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    It was until is was not. A case of Supergirl's showrunners thinking they're making a statement about healing the environment with their convoluted "just like Krypton" business from Zor-El.

    Then, there's....

    Edge never mentioned Argo because there's as much continuity between Berlanti shows as you would find between The Invisible Man and any episode of Gumby.

    Argo City would fulfill any need to see or participate in a surviving community of his race, and Clark should know this as well, yet its never mentioned--even as a debate point if Edge did not see that as a solution. Yep, those Berlanti shows are a group of finely-tuned, continuity monuments that tie everything together into one, cohesive TV universe...
     
  5. thribs

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    Maybe something happens to Argo City at the end.
     
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  6. Nerys Myk

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    But they aren't the "right" Kryptonians.
     
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  7. Christopher

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    Oh, good point. Aside from Lara, all the personalities in the Eradicator seemed to be rather nasty, aggressive types. They weren't simply in it for the humanitarian (Kryptonianitarian?) goal of rescuing their people; they wanted a world to conquer.
     
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  8. StCoop

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    Diggle or no Diggle I still don't believe that 'Superman & Lois' takes place in the same reality as the other show.

    And is anyone else embarrassed for the show with how little money they're clearly working with for their CGI budget? Episodes of 'Supergirl' in 2021 shouldn't look worse than episodes from 2015.
     
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  9. David cgc

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    J’onn’s tossed off-line about doing a psychic scan and finding out the junk-golem had a forcefield sounded like the kind of line someone writes when they’re making fun of sci-fi, like Galaxy Quest or Wormhole X-Treme. I genuinely had the thought that it’s lucky it’s the last season, otherwise, a few more moments like that and I’d probably give up on the show.

    No favors are done to late-stage Supergirl by putting it alongside Superman & Lois.
     
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  10. Tuskin38

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    Season 2 is apparently meant to connect to the wider Arrowverse more.
     
  11. Christopher

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    I hope so. As I recall, what Todd Helbing said is that season 2 will "reveal more" about how S&L relates to the rest of the Arrowverse, which I found ambiguous. It's probably meant to be in the same reality, given that it includes Diggle, Lyla, and ARGUS, but what we've been told is still rather vague.
     
  12. Tuskin38

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    Ohh right. That's what I read, whoops
     
  13. The Realist

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    I hope not. S&L is doing just great without the extraneous narrative clutter.
    My preferences aside, it's true Helbing said this to several outlets. Like you, however, I wonder if the "reveal" might be something other than, "It's Earth-Prime despite all the season one inconsistencies and omissions, the end."
     
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  14. Christopher

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    Simple acknowledgment of a larger continuity doesn't have to be clutter. For instance, in this week's Supergirl, Kara mentioned in passing how an Iris West-Allen article had influenced her decision about how to write her article, and Andrea showed a listing of rival news outlets including the Daily Planet, Daily Star, Gotham Gazette, Central City Citizen, etc. The wider universe was acknowledged and incorporated smoothly in a way that served the story being told rather than interfering with it or distracting from it. Context, not clutter.
     
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  15. The Realist

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    Those instances were all right (except for the ludicrous inclusion of the Central City Citizen on a listing of top ten new outlets). I just don't want to have to know WTF is going on with shows I'm not interested in in order to fully appreciate S&L, nor do I need actual narrative elements from other shows (as opposed to the name-drops you mention) distracting from the world and characters it's so skillfully established. S&L feels very distinct in tone and quality from the (rest of the?) Arrowverse, and I'd personally prefer to keep it that way.

    OTOH, it would be interesting to see specifically Superman-centric elements from other shows make their way into S&L. I'm actually hopeful we'll see Jon Cryer as Lex Luthor at some point, but he will need to adapt his performance to S&L's more subdued and serious style (which I'm confident he's fully capable of doing).
     
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  16. Christopher

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    Hey, the Flash is popular, and the Citizen gets all the scoops on him.


    I literally just explained how you can have continuity references that don't require anything like that. You don't have to be familiar with Batwoman to understand the mention of the Gotham Gazette in this episode. You didn't have to be up on The Flash to understand the bit in Black Lightning where Jeff mentioned getting help from a friend at STAR Labs. Continuity references like that are invisible and unobtrusive if you don't recognize them, but if you do, they provide an extra bit of context that makes the universe feel more consistent. The goal is to serve both audiences, the ones who only pay attention to the work itself and the ones who pay attention to how it fits with the other works. It's erroneous to say it's a zero-sum choice between one or the other. When it's done right, it works for both audiences at the same time. The problem with S&L's approach is that it only serves the former audience at the expense of the latter.
     
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  17. Commander Troi

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    Sadly, I gotta agree with you. I hope we get a good ending, and I'll watch to see it because I like the characters and have been here since the beginning, but yeah, I'm glad it's ending.
     
  18. Guy Gardener

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    Why were the Kryptonians dumping waste in their oceans when they had cheap space travel and Phantom Zone Projectors?
     
  19. Noname Given

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    It was cheaper to do so? ;)

    (Capitalism is the same no matter what planet you go to.):shrug::crazy::D
     
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  20. thribs

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    They’re really getting lazy with their aliens. They all just looked like humans to me.
     
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