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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3

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Debris caught in the wake of Clark's ship.

Astra didn't know what it is.

Clark and Kara bought hundreds of thousands of tons of Kryptonite with them at super luminal speeds.

Either Kryptonite is from deep inside the Homeworld, or on Krypton, under a red sun, Kryptonite is harmless.

Kryptonians absorb radiation, and get different super powers, depending on what sort of sun/radiation-source is nearby. In comics there are several more coluorings of suns than are found in the real world.

Kryptonite = Weakness, pain and death.

What if weakness, pain and death is a super power, and not the symptoms of a poison?

The yellow radiation is flushed out by the Kryptonite radiation, fulling up their solar radiation batteries, creating weakness, pain and death.

Red light makes them might as well be human, but what if red light can flush Kryptonite radiation, if there's some hierarchy about which radiation yields to any other radiation inside a Kryptonian?

If eq and IQ (which is bad pop science) are inversely proportionate, then maybe Red sunlight makes Kryptonians into asshole super geniuses, which is why Clark is so damn human?
 
Gryffindorian said:
Isn't kryptonite a byproduct of Krypton? If it is, then I assume (at least in the DC Universe) it's a naturally occurring substance from the long-destroyed planet, even before Lena found a way to synthesize it.
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But that's the whole point! In the show's universe, all the naturally occurring kryptonite is now gone from Earth, at least as far as anyone knows. The only way to get any more is to make it. And the only reason to do that is to create a weapon targeted against a specific race.

(Different iterations of the franchise have differed in how common kryptonite was on Earth. In the radio series that introduced the substance, all the kryptonite ever featured in the series came from a single meteorite that was broken into fourths and distributed among the show's semi-recurring villains. Once the last piece was used up, there was no more. In the George Reeves TV show, the first kryptonite Superman encountered was human-made by a scientist who deduced its formula, and that same single piece was reused in the first 2-3 kryptonite episodes. I'm not sure they ever had any naturally occurring K in that show. Conversely, you have things like the Silver Age comics, Lois & Clark, and especially Smallville where the stuff is all but ubiquitous. Supergirl tends more toward the "rare kryptonite" end of the spectrum.)
 
Marc said:
I've always had the impression is was very deep in the planet hence not being released until the Krypton exploded.
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Traditionally, the idea was that Krypton's explosion somehow turned the fragments radioactive. So "kryptonite" was less of a specific element than a radioactive fragment of the planet that was now lethal to Kryptonians--except for when it turned them into giant ants or whatever.

Not sure what the current technobabble is.
 
Greg Cox said:
Traditionally, the idea was that Krypton's explosion somehow turned the fragments radioactive. So "kryptonite" was less of a specific element than a radioactive fragment of the planet that was now lethal to Kryptonians--except for when it turned them into giant ants or whatever.

Not sure what the current technobabble is.
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In John Byrne's The Man of Steel reboot in 1986, Jor-El discovered that the "Green Death" that was spreading across Krypton was being caused by a chain reaction in the planet's core fusing its elements into a new radioactive substance that was lethal to them, and that the same chain reaction would destroy the planet. So in that version, kryptonite was a harbinger and even a partial cause of Krypton's destruction, rather than an aftereffect of it.

In the Silver and Bronze Ages, I think only green kryptonite was naturally occurring, and other kinds were either human-made or the result of weird cosmic energy fields altering natural green K. I think red kryptonite is generally portrayed as a failed attempt to synthesize green K, as with Max Lord's red K in Supergirl.
 
Gryffindorian said:
Well, that's a risk she as a superpowered alien being has to live with! How many of us have allergies? Some people could have a fatal reaction to peanuts, but do we as a society stop planting peanuts and manufacturing Jiff or Twix? The overall wellbeing and safety of an entire world - our civilization - is at stake. If there's one thing that could stop Reign, Supergirl of all people should understand.
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..or the nuclear energy example: it certainly has lethal applications, but due to its numerous uses in medicine and industry and commercial enegy, it is not banned outright. Kryptonite falls into that category, as it can be lethal if misused (weaponized against an innocent), but no rational mind will confiscate, and/or ban the manufacture of / experimenting with it all due to the paranoid notion that it might be used against someone at some point in the future.

Guy Gardener said:
Jimmy is or was Clark's side kick?

Jimmy is Kara's Superior at work.

Therefore: Clark is Kara's superior.
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Well, they're not really a team where a "superior" is recognized. They're not Batman and Robin or the Green Hornet and Kato. Supergirl is independent, although she's tied to the "super" brand by relation/heritage.
 
The Bottling of Kandor "sometimes" precipitates the planets untimely detonation.

Maybe Brainiac didn't unearth (unkrypton?) anything, but left behind a foreign byproduct instrumental to bottling which would eventually come to be known as Kryptonite?
 
Christopher said:
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In the Silver and Bronze Ages, I think only green kryptonite was naturally occurring, and other kinds were either human-made or the result of weird cosmic energy fields altering natural green K. I think red kryptonite is generally portrayed as a failed attempt to synthesize green K, as with Max Lord's red K in Supergirl.
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I always that they dropped the ball by not having Richard Pryor's synthetic kryptonite in SUPERMAN 3 be red, especially since it turned to out to affect Superman unpredictably, just like red K did back in the day.
 
Greg Cox said:
I always that they dropped the ball by not having Richard Pryor's synthetic kryptonite in SUPERMAN 3 be red, especially since it turned to out to affect Superman unpredictably, just like red K did back in the day.
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More specifically, it had the same effect as the Smallville and Supergirl versions of red K, shutting down his inhibitions and moral judgment and turning him bad. The comics' red K has a different effect every time, but the TV versions tend to be pretty consistent in their effect. (The Lois and Clark version of red K also had a psychological effect, but instead of turning Clark/Superman bad, it just made him apathetic and lazy.)


Nerys Myk said:
Jimmy is Clark's coworker and friend. He's Superman's friend. They never had a hero/sidekick relationship.
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Well, that's borderline. He was originally introduced on radio to be sort of a sidekick figure, an identification figure for young audiences who got to hang around with the hero and tag along on his adventures, even if it was never a formal partnership. The comics at the time only rarely featured Jimmy as a Planet staffer, however. In the Reeves TV series, Jimmy was more Lois's sidekick than Clark's or Superman's, always tagging along on her stories and getting into trouble alongside her so Superman could save them both. And Lois and Clark made him Clark's pal and Perry's protege, without any particularly close relationship with Superman. Indeed, I'd say that Supergirl is the first live-action adaptation I can think of that's really played up the idea of Jimmy as "Superman's Pal" rather than Lois's apprentice or Clark's buddy or just some guy at the office. And that's a past relationship that's only occasionally referenced.
 
I wonder if Krypton will look like earth did in "Agents of Shiled" during the first half of this past season. I don't know how they will do this story without getting Superman involved. Perhaps he will take off like he did in the Brandon ROth movie to go help people their, leaving Supergirl as the only Super person on earth thus erasing the need to wonder why Superman doesn't show up in certain events where you think he would show up at.


Jason
 
Nerys Myk said:
Jimmy is Clark's coworker and friend. He's Superman's friend. They never had a hero/sidekick relationship.
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Now, almost definitely.

But Jimmy took the first picture of Clark flying, years before Kara landed on Earth back in 2001.

James was probably a teenager.

Sidekick or mascot, but not an equal.
 
Christopher said:
I think that's an overstatement. They showed that she could beat him in a fight when she needed to, but that was probably due as much to her DEO combat training as to any intrinsic power advantage. How much force you have is less important than how skillfully you wield it. Supergirl was trained by Alex, a woman who's smaller and lighter than most of the bad guys she fights. Alex has learned fighting techniques that are designed to compensate for her disadvantage in raw strength, and those are the techniques she taught her sister. So it's entirely possible that Superman has an advantage over Kara in pure physical power, but Kara is better-trained in how to beat a more powerful opponent.
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I think you forgot theses scenes:
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Supergirl soundly beating Supes

Then this scene:
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Pay close attention to what Supes says.

There's zero ambiguity here. In the Berlanti-verse; Supergirl is more powerful than Superman at his full strength. Supergirl is the most powerful Hero Kryptonian here - Supes is #2.
 
Noname Given said:
I think you forgot theses scenes:
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No, I was explicitly referring to those exact scenes. I just interpret them differently.


Noname Given said:
There's zero ambiguity here. In the Berlanti-verse; Supergirl is more powerful than Superman at his full strength.
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Superman never said "powerful." He said "I was at full strength and you beat me." The mistake you're making is in assuming that the only way to win a fight is with brute force. As I said, it's not just about how much force you have, but how intelligently and skillfully you direct it. That is why a relatively small woman like Alex can routinely defeat so many men who are bigger and more physically powerful than she is -- because there are fighting techniques for women that are specifically designed for beating bigger, stronger opponents. And since Supergirl was trained by Alex, it therefore logically follows that Supergirl had the necessary skills to defeat an opponent more physically powerful than she is. That's why "you beat me" is not synonymous with "you are more powerful than me." Supergirl won because she's better at fighting, because she has military combat training and Superman doesn't. That's a more important factor than which one has more raw muscle.
 
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