Spoilers Supergirl - Season 3
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No, she's not his sidekick. She got her own strip shortly after her debut and has operated as an independent hero.
Indeed. As soon as he found her, he stuck her in an orphanage and kept her in reserve as his secret weapon, not telling the general public about Supergirl's existence for a while thereafter. That was a way of keeping their respective series separate except on those occasions when they crossed over. Those crossover did become more frequent in the years that followed, but no more so than the appearances of other Superman Family characters like Krypto the Super-Dog. (Krypto was Superboy's sidekick for a while, though.)
Reign is already restrained behind Lena's force field and with the intravenous kryptonite solution. Lena just didn't want to hear Reign's threats... so instead of painlessly turning off her audio.. she blocked Reign's vision in a manner that punished her for using a power that was NOT bothering Lena in the least... the X-ray vision.
How is that not torture?
To use your electrified fence analogy, in order to punish a dog that is barking in the backyard... you turn on the electric field so that it not only corrals him in the yard, it zaps his family jewels every-time he chooses to pee.
OUCH!
Talk about having a god complex.
When Alex was pulling crap on Julia while she was imprisoned in the DEO, Kara called her sister out for it. But when Lena does it to Reign, SG only notes how the barrier can be used as a weapon, not whether or not Reign deserves to be zapped for her vitriol. Her fear of the breach in their relationship is already affecting the way SG interacts with LL.
As for Lena's biting commentary, "This may come as a surprise to you, but I don't think of YOU at all when I invent something." well maybe she should. After all, Lena has literally had her life be saved at least five times in season 2 and at least once in season 3 by this woman she now loathes. A little consideration for her wellbeing should have been earned 6 times over by now.
I can't wait for Lena to realize that James, Alex, Wynn and Kara all know SG's secret identity and starts harping on (at least 2 of) them keeping it a secret from her. That, of course, will be the right time for Alex to whip out that "Its not my truth to tell" line on Lena. I just hope that when Lena starts pushing, James doesn't try to guilt Kara like he did in season 1 with Lucy Lane. And if he does... I would insist (if I was Kara) that James first outs Superman's identity before he outs her own.
Yeah... right... like THAT's going to happen.
You know x-rays are dangerous, right? If concentrated, they could be a weapon in themselves. Indeed, that was the original idea behind Superman's heat vision, that it was just his x-ray vision focused intensely enough to burn, before it was retconned into a separate power in the '60s.
Besides, if Reign could see what Lena and the others were doing, it might give her some advance warning that she could use against them.
That makes no sense as an analogy. Reign doesn't have to use her x-ray vision. It's entirely optional. Indeed, the way "invisible fence" restraint systems work on dogs -- administering a small shock until they learn to stop trying to get out -- is exactly how Lena's force field works. It's more an irritant to teach a lesson than something actually damaging.
Yes, Kara is concerned about how the technology could be turned into an anti-Kryptonian weapon, but that doesn't mean it actually is one in its current form. And she's probably concerned about it less as an attack as a defense, something supervillains can use to prevent her or Superman from discovering their evil plans or locating their hostages or whatever.
To me the answer is quite simple. When "Superman" has a TV show Supergirl among many others are basically his sidekick. When "Supergirl" has a TV show like right now he is more of the sidekick. Series leads are always going to be the main hero of their own stories. I think it's true that Superman is more of a legend than Supergirl is in either format but how can he not be. He is was the 1st Superhero created and has been around forever. I'm sure their are some people who only know a handful at most superhero's and you can bet Superman will always be on that kind of list.
Jason
That's misusing the word "sidekick." It doesn't refer to a supporting character who occasionally shows up; it refers to a regular partner in a supporting position, like Robin to Batman, Tonto to the Lone Ranger, or Ed McMahon to Johnny Carson. It's someone whose place is at the side of the hero -- that's right there in the word.
I know but I think the term has expanded for some people especially when it comes to Superhero's. Anyone who just hangs out with the main character can get that lable these days. Not sure about the superior thing though. I don't think their has ever been a Chain of Command except maybe in something like the Justice League or the Avengers and isn't that kind of loose way to describe those groups.
Jason
Since when? I don't recall coming across that usage.
We're talking about a role in a 2-person team, so there doesn't need to be much of a "chain of command," just a lead role and a supporting role. It doesn't have to be a formal command hierarchy, just one member of the duo being the title character and the one who generally makes the decisions. Watson is Sherlock Holmes's sidekick. He's a friend rather than an employee or subordinate, but Holmes is the one who makes most of the decisions, and Watson chooses to follow his lead. But Inspector Lestrade is not Holmes's sidekick, just a supporting character, because he only occasionally shows up and isn't a regular member of the team. A sidekick is a partner.
I'm not really sure. It seems though I have heard it used in other ways than how it usually was defined. I think I have heard used in a negative way as well. As a means of describing someone who you could also describe as a lackey.
Jason
Yup, commonly in day to day life, it's not just you
True. Gone are the days when Supergirl was truly a hopeful person. Now, that hope is almost her falling back on a routine of what Supergirl believes others expect of her, not what she's actually feels. Experiences can make some world-wise (and world-weary), but operating on paranoia and suspicion goes...where? She's the one who is superpowered yet she does not see that a superpowered being trying to control the actions of a regular human (no matter how resourceful and/or brilliant like Lena) is an abuse of power--an assumption of authority that (as noted weeks ago) supports part of Lillian's argument.
Being saved by someone does not place the one saved into an automatic, constant state of deference to the rescuer. Lena is an individual with her right (within the law) to conduct whatever experiment she chooses. So far, she's been the only person with any longterm control over Reign, so it seems Supergirl--once again--is thinking of her own concerns, placing that in front of the greater good, which is--for the moment--spearheaded by Lena.
It would be completely different if Lena was developing WMDs to wipe out an entire population of Kryptonians (in this case, there are three surviving ones on Earth). The kryptonite and the forcefield have been used thus far to subdue Reign (not torture or kill her), and one could say, she is the WMD.
But as you say, there are only a handful of them, so anything that could kill 2-3 of them would be effectively a WMD for them. Supergirl isn't just worried about Lena, she's worried about the knowledge getting out to others. She's worried about what could happen if Lillian or Lex has a back door into Lena's computers and steals her kryptonite-making formula, say.
Well, that's a risk she as a superpowered alien being has to live with! How many of us have allergies? Some people could have a fatal reaction to peanuts, but do we as a society stop planting peanuts and manufacturing Jiff or Twix? The overall wellbeing and safety of an entire world - our civilization - is at stake. If there's one thing that could stop Reign, Supergirl of all people should understand.
Jimmy is or was Clark's side kick?
Jimmy is Kara's Superior at work.
Therefore: Clark is Kara's superior.
Jimmy is Kara's Superior at work.
Therefore: Clark is Kara's superior.
Not in the Berlanti-verse. They have stated multiple times on screen (including from Superman himself) that Kara/Supergirl is MORE powerful than Superman in this Universe.
So yeah, for the Berlanti-verse, it's the opposite.
As I've already said, the difference with kryptonite is that a) it has no beneficial use for anyone and b) it is only harmful to Kryptonians. The analogy is not something like peanuts -- the analogy is something like, say, a biological weapon that only kills black people or Jews. It's something that has to be intentionally created with the specific purpose of killing people of a certain race. That is a truly horrific thing if you think about it.
I think that's an overstatement. They showed that she could beat him in a fight when she needed to, but that was probably due as much to her DEO combat training as to any intrinsic power advantage. How much force you have is less important than how skillfully you wield it. Supergirl was trained by Alex, a woman who's smaller and lighter than most of the bad guys she fights. Alex has learned fighting techniques that are designed to compensate for her disadvantage in raw strength, and those are the techniques she taught her sister. So it's entirely possible that Superman has an advantage over Kara in pure physical power, but Kara is better-trained in how to beat a more powerful opponent.
Isn't kryptonite a byproduct of Krypton? If it is, then I assume (at least in the DC Universe) it's a naturally occurring substance from the long-destroyed planet, even before Lena found a way to synthesize it. So many things in nature are inherently toxic or deadly to human life.
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