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Hmm... Would that help with his aerodynamics in flight, I wonder? (Although, despite what they alleged in the Supergirl pilot, I assume the cape would be a source of drag rather than providing any benefit.)
Though for Superman that might be comparable to how much Usain Bolt's necklace slowed him down. :)
 
Yeah, I would think The Incredibles would probably be a more realistic approach to supersuits with capes.
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At one point, the Superman radio series in the '40s provided an interesting suggestion of the practical purpose for Superman's cape (or "cloak," as they often called it): It hid the Clark Kent clothes that he had bundled on his back (I guess in maybe a fanny pack or something?). Although they didn't explain why the people he carried in flight never noticed the bundle. The Silver Age comics did something similar by proposing that Superman used superstrength to compress his street clothes and hide them and his glasses in a hidden pocket in his cape. (I can only surmise he did some kind of super-ironing before he put them back on.)
 
They were supposed to be chemically treated to compress like that, which was also used as the excuse why Clark's suit was traditionally always colored the same in those days...the chemical was a dye that came in three colors--red, white, and blue.

I remember a Superman Family in which Supergirl mused that she didn't use that process, because she didn't want her wardrobe to look like it was made by Betsy Ross.
 
They were supposed to be chemically treated to compress like that, which was also used as the excuse why Clark's suit was traditionally always colored the same in those days...the chemical was a dye that came in three colors--red, white, and blue.

I remember a Superman Family in which Supergirl mused that she didn't use that process, because she didn't want her wardrobe to look like it was made by Betsy Ross.
That's a great example of overthinking it. :lol:
 
That's a great example of overthinking it. :lol:

Welcome to Silver Age DC. They weren't allowed to be violent, they didn't have very complex characters, so they didn't have much else to fill pages with than intricate examinations of the most minuscule details of their own backstory and mythology. Although '60s Marvel did a lot of that too -- full-page spreads where the characters would explain their costumes and gadgets to the audience, cutaways of the Baxter Building or the Avengers Mansion, that sort of thing. A couple of early Fantastic Four issues even had scenes where the FF answered their fan mail and explained things that readers asked about, which is where the "unstable molecules" explanation for their costumes first came from.
 
It's irresponsible for Superman to waste time doing community service, goodwill and publicity.

Send a damn robot!

Meanwhile, if Superman is sending 10 thousand robots with his complete array of super powers, out on never ending hospital tours to make sure all the chemo kids feel happy about themselves b... What about that huge meteor striking Finland, or the Godzilla orgy destroying Tokyo?
 
There's no more important thing that the most powerful man in the universe could be doing than mowing the lawn for a children's hospital.
 
There's no more important thing that the most powerful man in the universe could be doing than mowing the lawn for a children's hospital.

That's what makes him Superman -- he thinks that anything he can do to help is important. He doesn't put himself above anyone else's needs. It isn't his power that makes him Superman, but his compassion. What makes him so extraordinary is that he thinks everyone else is extraordinary. As Andrew Kreisberg recently said, "Superman should make you feel like you can do anything, even though he's the one that can do anything." That's why this is probably the single greatest depiction of Superman's heroism ever.
 
He was Superboy at the time...when you're the most powerful teenager in the universe, mowing the lawn on Saturday afternoon is how you slack off.
 
Jonathan Kent filed for bankruptcy 3 times on Smallville.

Lex Luthor even bought the farm back at a bank auction, to give it back to the Kents.

After all that, Clark sold the farm to Ben Hubbard, the moment John stopped breathing.

Kids suck.

Superkids supersuck.
 
Looks like there's some debris in the background, so presumably Superman's been in a fight and gotten his outfit dirty, while Supergirl seems to have just arrived, so her suit is still clean.




That is misrepresenting my position. I consider the trunks to be an important part of the aesthetics of Superman's costume design, not his "character." They were part of the iconic costume for 73 years and were only dropped a measly 5 years ago. They give the costume a balance of design that it lacks without them, complementing the red cape and boots by providing some red in the middle to break up the blue. There are valid artistic reasons for their presence, which is why nobody altered that aspect of the design for 73 years, and the decision to get rid of them 5 years ago was just an overreaction to a hoary old joke.
I would love to see some interviews with artists who would say that is the primary reason it didn't change. Removing the truns just seems waaay more dramatic then say, changing to top of the boots, or the yellow belt (which I am sure has subtley changes over the years). I think it's the fear of adverse fan/ublic reaction than some made-up artistic reasons, but ALL of the artists for Superman's first 70+ years

After all, there are more people in real life today who wear trunks than there are who wear capes. But Superman always has the cape because it's an intrinsic part of his design. So there's no valid reason why the trunks should be treated differently.
If someone JUST wears a red cape, but has "normal" clothes (like young Clark in Man of Steel -- white t-shirt and blue jeans), most Americans would INSTANTLY know that was a Superman reference (or at the very least SOME kind of Superhero).
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Wearing red BRIEFS (and not boxers, as modern athletes would do) OVER some kind of pants/leggings would look silly to many A FEW might get the Superman reference, but nowhere NEAR as many as with the cape.

Modern pro wrestlers might wear briefs..but look ridiculous outside a pro-wrestling match (which is something people associate with fake reality entertainment, not Superman or superheroes)
And please stop obsessing on the damn modesty thing. That is one minor factor out of many, largely a piece of the historical background, yet you insist on falsely claiming it's my entire argument. If you're going to cite my position at all, then please make the effort to cite it correctly instead of reducing it to a caricature.

Now you know how many of us perceive some of your responses to our posts.

I mean, you over-analyze/ fan-splain what some people write as obvious JOKES.

You also kind of talk down to us, and miss the REAL points we want to make, or at least feel like you respect them even if you don't agree.

We all do you love you, and appreciate the insight you bring...but sometimes some of us actually ALREADY know it, and don't need someone to "help us understand"

And regarding modesty -- it's the only thing that really makes sense to me as to why to keep it (or why it was there in the first place) -- most everything else seems like your own personal preference that certainly I perceive as you pushing as fact.

If anything, it would make more sense for Superman to keep the trunks and lose the tights. After all, as artist J. Bone once pointed out, he is solar-powered, so from a strictly practical standpoint, the more skin he exposes to the sun, the better. And just as his original costume reflected the look of '30s strongmen and acrobats, the modern equivalent could be something like a pro wrestler or bodybuilder, and they tend to wear trunks and very little else. Of course, then you'd lose the S-shield, so maybe some kind of He-Man-like harness?

That's one of the things that I hated about John Byrne making super a "human solar battery" waaay back immediate post-Crisis. That Superman just didn't "tatse" good, like Man of Steel & B v S in at least my first viewing (several viewings later have helped me appreciate some of the aspects that threw me for a loop)

Logically, Superman should be like Starfire & her people, and be in briefs (not boxers) absorbing the sun to be powerful. Superman in only red tights might appeal to some communities . But that just doesn't feel like Superman to me.
 
Jonathan Kent filed for bankruptcy 3 times on Smallville.

Lex Luthor even bought the farm back at a bank auction, to give it back to the Kents.

After all that, Clark sold the farm to Ben Hubbard, the moment John stopped breathing.

Kids suck.

Superkids supersuck.

Or that Lex was the real hero in the first couple of seasons
 
That's one of the things that I hated about John Byrne making super a "human solar battery" waaay back immediate post-Crisis.
The yellow sun as the source of a good deal of Superman's power went back to the Silver Age...Byrne didn't come up with that. He did make it the sole source of Superman's power (getting rid of the outdated lighter gravity excuse that didn't come close to explaining Superman's power levels) and clearly established that Superman stored solar energy, and his powers didn't just flick off like a light switch when he was removed from a yellow sun environment.
 
There's no more important thing that the most powerful man in the universe could be doing than mowing the lawn for a children's hospital.
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If someone JUST wears a red cape, but has "normal" clothes (like young Clark in Man of Steel -- white t-shirt and blue jeans), most Americans would INSTANTLY know that was a Superman reference (or at the very least SOME kind of Superhero).

Wearing red BRIEFS (and not boxers, as modern athletes would do) OVER some kind of pants/leggings would look silly to many A FEW might get the Superman reference, but nowhere NEAR as many as with the cape.

Modern pro wrestlers might wear briefs..but look ridiculous outside a pro-wrestling match (which is something people associate with fake reality entertainment, not Superman or superheroes)

http://www.lorianaespinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/winter-web-18-of-23.jpg

The guy on the left… Totally a Superman reference! :rofl:


That's a nice article. I really liked this part:

"For his part, Hoechlin was first introduced to the Man of Steel as a kid watching Dean Cain on Lois & Clark with his family, but he counts Christopher Reeve as his all-time favorite portrayal of the chiseled hero. However, during the meeting with the Supergirl bosses, Hoechlin says all were on the same page about doing their own version of Kal-El, the cousin of Supergirl (Melissa Benoist). “Obviously [we want to] honor the tradition that is the character without really emulating anything that somebody else has done before,” Hoechlin says, noting he avoided watching old Superman films after being cast. “I didn’t want to have any temptation to imitate”."
 
And regarding modesty -- it's the only thing that really makes sense to me as to why to keep it (or why it was there in the first place) -- most everything else seems like your own personal preference that certainly I perceive as you pushing as fact.

I'm expressing an opinion about a matter of aesthetics. How could that possibly be a matter of "fact" by any definition of that word? It's also not that important a subject to me, but for some reason it's impossible to muse casually about something on the Internet without somebody out there misreading it as some kind of absolute, fanatical statement of dogma, which is frustrating as hell. We're talking about clothes, for Pete's sake. It's not worth arguing over. I have my opinion, you have yours, let's leave it at that, please.
 
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