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Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

I assume CatCo is either privately owned or that Cat Grant has more than 50% of the Board of Directors' votes. I can't imagine an independent Board of Directors choosing Jimmy as the new CEO (even with Grant's recommendation).

Edit: it's possible that CatCo really does have some interesting bits in Snapper's contract. I assume Jimmy has firing authority, but it's possible that a firing would trigger a very large severance package. I hope Jimmy bothered to check with his legal department.
 
I'm not arguing that there's ambiguity in the lesson that Snapper was trying to teach Kara; I'm saying that the fact that he was right about journalists needing to be impartial is drowned/canceled out by the fact that the writers simultaneously had him sticking his nose where it didn't belong and accosting his boss - James - for no other reason than to further demonstrate that he's an a-hole.
 
It's an assumption that he is the new CEO, that I did not make. It's possible sure. Jimmy described his new position as being "The New Cat" which can mean a few things Jimmy is in no way qualified to over see unless he has depth that we are not aware of.

Jimmy's new job might be as media strategist or artistic co-ordinator, someone directing the artistic side of the company, but still answerable to Cat and the Board... Sure maybe he's a good man and you can trust him to make the really big moral decisions as CEO, but what about the other ten thousand decisions a day that seem unimportant that could also make or break the company? Is it really a "world wide" company, or is Catco a one building in one city company?

Unless Jimmy just happens to have an MBA from a first class school as well as being a photographer who got promoted until he was in charge of all the other photographers, he shouldn't really be given the keys to a multibillion dollar kingdom.

Seriously?

Jimmy has to have considered liquidating the company and moving to a non extradition country.

Anyone else with an MBA would have.
 
Forget the journalism stuff, Catco isn't putting out a newspaper, but a magazine. If it's a weekly like People or Us, there is still lead time between issues, and when a magazine goes to press.
I believe that Catco has a newspaper too.
 
The premise is stupid regardless of the particular subject. Here we have the boss of an organization that has to spend his precious time to explain the basics to someone who has not the faintest idea how to do his/her job. And this someone clearly skipped every possibly queue to the job. And still the show depicts Mr. Carr as the bad guy, when he has been more than patient!

There was no sense in placing Kara in a position she did not earn; it would have been better to mirror the pilot of the Adventures of Superman TV series, where new arrival Clark's scoop was so bold he proved his worth as a reporter. Supergirl borrows so much from various Superman stories from print & film, that taking a page from a 1952 episode would be a natural, and serve the need for Kara to become more like her cousin.



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Jimmy in particular is completely unqualified. You don't just go from art director to CEO of a media conglomerate and expect to have any credibility.

James has been sidelined in general--and that has less to do with his eventually becoming the Guardian than it being the result of cowardly producers caving in to the sickening anti-Kara/James relationship. With that union dissolved, James was pushed into a position where he no longer has much personal time with Kara.
 
There was no sense in placing Kara in a position she did not earn; it would have been better to mirror the pilot of the Adventures of Superman TV series, where new arrival Clark's scoop was so bold he proved his worth as a reporter. Supergirl borrows so much from various Superman stories from print & film, that taking a page from a 1952 episode would be a natural, and serve the need for Kara to become more like her cousin.

And in every iteration of Superman's lore, Clark Kent was always portrayed as capable in his job as a reporter.

BTW, I agree with what other people have said. I perceived more chemistry in the interaction between Kara and Lena that from Maggie and Alex. Probably because Melissa Benoist and Katie McGrath are so natural in their roles, while Chyler Leigh and Floriana Lima are simply trying too hard.

And it's fun how a progressive tv show like Supergirl can still fail the Bechdel Test :rommie:. Lena and Kara talked about Lex Luthor and Maggie and Alex discussed about the suspect in the assassination attempt (that at the time they believed he was Mon-El, a man).
 
And in every iteration of Superman's lore, Clark Kent was always portrayed as capable in his job as a reporter.

BTW, I agree with what other people have said. I perceived more chemistry in the interaction between Kara and Lena that from Maggie and Alex. Probably because Melissa Benoist and Katie McGrath are so natural in their roles, while Chyler Leigh and Floriana Lima are simply trying too hard.

And it's fun how a progressive tv show like Supergirl can still fail the Bechdel Test :rommie:. Lena and Kara talked about Lex Luthor and Maggie and Alex discussed about the suspect in the assassination attempt (that at the time they believed he was Mon-El, a man).

Didn't Kara talk to the president about alien rights, though?
 
And in every iteration of Superman's lore, Clark Kent was always portrayed as capable in his job as a reporter.

BTW, I agree with what other people have said. I perceived more chemistry in the interaction between Kara and Lena that from Maggie and Alex. Probably because Melissa Benoist and Katie McGrath are so natural in their roles, while Chyler Leigh and Floriana Lima are simply trying too hard.

And it's fun how a progressive tv show like Supergirl can still fail the Bechdel Test :rommie:. Lena and Kara talked about Lex Luthor and Maggie and Alex discussed about the suspect in the assassination attempt (that at the time they believed he was Mon-El, a man).

A capable journalist who is forever tripping over furniture like a goon.
 
Didn't Kara talk to the president about alien rights, though?
And aliens (well, at least some races) can be females and MALES.

Sorry, failed. The test is very strict.:nyah:

A capable journalist who is forever tripping over furniture like a goon.
Isn't the "Clark-Kent-is-a-klutz" trope dead and buried like, thirty years ago? At least from Crisis?
 
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Something else I was thinking about last night: the cop mentioned that her ex-girlfriend learned english through a touch telepathy power. Which kind of begs the question: how do all these other aliens do it?

Superman probably learned it the old fashioned way, as he was still a baby when he arrived. Supergirl would have the benefit of help from Superman, who I assume already had access to the Fortress and the kryptonian technology inside it (and so would be able to speak Kryptonian to her). Jonn could also use telepathy.

But how did Astra, Non and the other Fort Rozz escapees do it?

And what about all the other random refugees? How did Mon-El do it (who was seemingly speaking perfect english in less than 48 hours)?
 
Isn't the "Clark-Kent-is-a-klutz" trope dead and buried like, thirty years ago? At least from Crisis?

You're the Worst has been explaining Cuckolds to me in great detail.

Is that why Metropitians look down on Clark Kent now?

Clark is a Cuck, and Superman is the bull, but it evens out, once you know his secret.
 
If Lena is an alien and her machine is rigged to show green for aliens, in order to convince Kara that she is human, and then Kara fails to damage the device in the way she intended, Lena will have figured out that Kara is an alien.
 
Isn't the "Clark-Kent-is-a-klutz" trope dead and buried like, thirty years ago? At least from Crisis?
Yes. However, it's more accurate to attribute the bumbling persona to the movies, rather than the comics. Clark at the time (the 70s) was a news anchor for the Daily Planet, after it was bought by Morgan Edge. He was still a mild-mannered reporter, but he wasn't the "aw shucks" farm boy of the Donner movies. Clark is a professional after all, and he takes his job very seriously.

The klutz aspect of the Donner movies, I think is there to service the romance parts of the films. The "will they won't they romance". Lois being unable to see past Clark being a big oaf, but being gaga for Superman. In the Golden and Silver Age, Lois saw Clark as a rival for stories. While Clark himself didn't pursue a relationship with Lois. Recall all the schemes Lois came up with to get Superman to marry her. If Superman wanted a relationship with her, he would've pursued one. The whole "Spider-Man, I can't be with you because someone might discover my secret identity and hurt you to get to me" thing, didn't become an issue until after Superman and Lois started dating in 1989-1992.

So yeah. Klutz Clark is a movie thing from yesteryear.
 
In the comics, Superman is dead.

(Lois Lane too. She bought the farm a couple months later in an unrelated matter.)

Fortunately Lois and Clark from a Mirror Universe were on hand and took over.

But here's the weird thing.

Clark Kent is now a human being who is not, and has never been, Superman, and he's really really pissy that every one thinks that he is Superman when he is clearly not.

Good times. :)
 
If Lena is an alien and her machine is rigged to show green for aliens, in order to convince Kara that she is human, and then Kara fails to damage the device in the way she intended, Lena will have figured out that Kara is an alien.

Imagine that Lena is really, secretly Morgana LeFay. :)
 
In the comics, Superman is dead.

(Lois Lane too. She bought the farm a couple months later in an unrelated matter.)

Fortunately Lois and Clark from a Mirror Universe were on hand and took over.

But here's the weird thing.

Clark Kent is now a human being who is not, and has never been, Superman, and he's really really pissy that every one thinks that he is Superman when he is clearly not.

Good times. :)
It speaks volumes to how long I've been reading comics that my response to that is "huh", rather than "what the f***?"
 
In the comics, Superman is dead.

(Lois Lane too. She bought the farm a couple months later in an unrelated matter.)

Fortunately Lois and Clark from a Mirror Universe were on hand and took over.

But here's the weird thing.

Clark Kent is now a human being who is not, and has never been, Superman, and he's really really pissy that every one thinks that he is Superman when he is clearly not.

Good times. :)

Of course, this is just setting up the story for oldDC Clark to step into the Clark Kent secret identity later. They have to do it because nu52 Lois revealed nu52 Clark's secret.

oldDC Clark is somewhat older than nu52 Clark, which will beg some explanation...that will not be forthcoming until a massive Re-set Crossover in a couple of years.
 
Yes, the new Superman is 10 years older than the the Nu 52 Superman, but no one can agree about the rate at which kryptonians age under a yellow sun... Maybe they only age at night time? ;)

Adding ten years to Lois however is a horse of another colour.
 
And it's fun how a progressive tv show like Supergirl can still fail the Bechdel Test :rommie:. Lena and Kara talked about Lex Luthor and Maggie and Alex discussed about the suspect in the assassination attempt (that at the time they believed he was Mon-El, a man).

Well, Bechdel isn't something that has to be passed in every single instance. It's more an aggregate thing, to call attention to gender bias in an entire series or an entire medium. If a certain body of multiple works fails the test more often than it passes, then there's a problem. But if it passes a reasonable majority of the time, then the exceptions aren't indicative of a systemic bias, they're just normal variations.


Isn't the "Clark-Kent-is-a-klutz" trope dead and buried like, thirty years ago? At least from Crisis?

Adaptations can draw on elements from numerous earlier incarnations, at the discretion of the adapter. There's no expiration date; indeed, these things tend to be cyclical, as creators react against recent versions of a story by drawing nostalgically on elements of earlier versions. For instance, the reaction to the campy, light Batman of the Silver Age and the Adam West TV show was to make Batman darker and evoke the more violent vigilante loner of the early 1939-40 comics; while in recent years, we've begun to see a reaction against decades of dark, violent Batman and a renewed embrace of the campy fun of the Adam West era. So it's no surprise that we're seeing a renewed embrace of Richard Donner's Superman as a reaction to Zack Snyder's.


Something else I was thinking about last night: the cop mentioned that her ex-girlfriend learned english through a touch telepathy power. Which kind of begs the question: how do all these other aliens do it?
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But how did Astra, Non and the other Fort Rozz escapees do it?

They'd been on Earth for 12 years by the time we met them.


How did Mon-El do it (who was seemingly speaking perfect english in less than 48 hours)?

That did bug me. I'd like to think they were actually conversing in Kryptonian and the show translated it for our benefit, but that wouldn't explain how Mon-El was able to communicate with the astronomer.


Yes. However, it's more accurate to attribute the bumbling persona to the movies, rather than the comics.

I dunno, I think the Golden Age comics portrayed Clark as something of a klutz. That was the standard Scarlet Pimpernel/Zorro secret-identity model they were drawing on -- the strong, brave, virile action hero adopts a weak, fumbling, timid, even effeminate persona so nobody suspects a connection.

In the Golden and Silver Age, Lois saw Clark as a rival for stories.

Yes, but at least in the Golden Age, she also held him in contempt as a man, finding him cowardly and oafish. Much the same was true in the '40s radio series. Indeed, it often seemed incongruous how much scorn the radio version of Lois had for Clark's lack of courage and manhood, given that he often demonstrated great courage and valor as Clark, e.g. unhesitatingly racing into danger so that he could change into Superman once he was out of the others' view, or standing up to a thug's intimidation rather than backing down from a story. And yet despite all that, Lois still routinely sneered at his supposed weakness and cowardice, which was quite odd.

And, yes, the clumsiness was an element of his comics and radio secret identity. Clark would sometimes knock out a bad guy with superstrength and then handwave it to Lois or Jimmy by saying "Gee, I must've tripped him by accident in the dark" or the like. Or he'd fake tripping and falling out of sight so he could get an opportunity to change to Superman and then say "It's okay, I caught Clark as he fell." More generally, pretending to be physically inept gave him an excuse to hang back from the action and change to Superman, at the cost of earning Lois's contempt.
 
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