Hmm... Well, as Max Lord said in "Bizarro" (I think it was), every living being sheds skin cells and the like on a regular basis. Maybe it just sampled the cells that were already sloughing off her epidermis anyway.
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Hmm... Well, as Max Lord said in "Bizarro" (I think it was), every living being sheds skin cells and the like on a regular basis. Maybe it just sampled the cells that were already sloughing off her epidermis anyway.
A lot like why Supergirl was created. And thus began the deuniquing of characters like Superman and J'onn Jonzz. Of course, DC holds more to J'onn being the last Martian better than they hold to Superman being the last Kryptonian. Superman's cousins (Kara and Karen), his dog, his clone, Zod and his followers (ranging from 2-12 depending), Zod's children (Lor and Val) and the bottle city of Kandor. Kind of ruins the whole "Last Son of Krypton" thing.
^I was wondering if the way her face changed at the end there could be a clue.
DC's doing recaps of the shows called Couch Club and in the end of the one for this episode they share an interest fact that could relate to Mon-El's name. In at least one continuity the Daxamites were Kryptonians who left to "explore the galaxy at large". So maybe this happened here and they kept their family names, so Mon-El is actually a distant relative of Kal and Kara.
Although she was lamenting her lack of a love life last episode. "I haven't had a date in over a year" or something like that.
Because Earth 1's universe lists Earth as something worse than mostly harmless
...though handled in a clumsy, forced manner.
It reads like the set up to justify Cadmus' mission as revealed in S2-E2.
Agreed, but if you know some of the showrunners, she's not there just to have another warm body in the cast.
Just as you did not see that in Alex, I do not see that in Kara, as her every behavior from S1 is that she's clearly heterosexual, and Mon El's teen magazine appearance, shared heritage & his "poor lost boy" status was all but shouting a potential romance. Anything else would be an abrupt change in Kara's development so far.
Its an overused plotting gimmick--in SG, Marsdin is an alien, at the end of Thor, unbeknownst to Fury, Selvig is under Loki's control, in Thor:The Dark World's conclusion, Odin turns out to be Loki, and on and on and on.
Weird action sequences here. Already mentioned, the roasting of those poor agents...but How could Supergirl not see the fireballs hurling towards the Prez until they reach the podium?! And burn the document right in front or her? With Madame Heat Wave on the ground, those had to be thrown at an arc, so how could someone hovering in the air above the event not notice?!!
Sounds like nitpicking, but it was distracting enough to ding an otherwise solid-if a tad preachy, episode. Over baked action scenes are starting to weigh down these Arrowverse shows. Good action is definately fun, but its fast becoming boring....
The action scenes in this show have almost never made sense, even in the best episodes. Remember last week when Kara distracted metallo with a car so she could jump on top of it to surprise him by... just standing still and waiting for him to shoot her? Or when she randomly threw some innocent person's car off a parking garage just to distract him (without even checking that there weren't any innocent people around)?
It's easily the worst thing about this series.
I was just about to ask if that was a possibility. I noticed some seemingly very white spots in her make-up (especially around the cheeks) that didn't really seem to match Jon's look. Obviously, that could be normal for green martians, and since she's a shapeshifter she ought to be able to look like a full-blooded green martian even if she is a half-breed, but considering this show's track record on logic, it at least makes me wonder if that isn't supposed to be an indication that she might be both.
Overall, I have to say I didn't like this episode much at all. The cop seems like a good addition. I'm still enjoying the Lena Luthor storyline. The alien detector could be interesting. Miss Martian is an interesting development, as is the alien bar. That's pretty much all the good things there were in this episode.
Not that I'm saying it was unbelievably painful or the 'worst episode ever' or anything, but it was aggressively stupid and unconvincing. The president was poorly written and badly acted. Mon-el was bland as hell and ridiculously inconsistent ("I don't want to hurt anyone, but I will fight my way out of what is clearly a hospital room without a single attempt to have a reasonable conversation, then kidnap and assault a completely innocent scientist to force him to do what I want"). The racism theme felt unearned and over the top - especially Kara falling victim to what was very obviously war propaganda, only to instantly do a perfect about face without a single second of uncertainty. Alex is once again proving she hasn't learned a damn thing about trying to solo it against enemies she obviously isn't qualified to fight (and apparently, she now has forgotten how to pull the trigger even when she has a clear shot with a bazooka against an obvious major threat that's about to escape into a civilian population - but that's just the run of the mill dumb action scenes that I already talked about). The assassination storyline made no sense - those fireballs looked absolutely nothing like kryptonian heat vision, even if they have a similar chemical signature, so the idea that no one in the DEO said 'Why are we looking for a kryptonian again?' is bizarre. Snapper's blatant disregard for his own boss was idiotic and just made that whole side of the story annoying, especially since James just letting him walk all over him was utterly unbelievable.
There was some decent set-up in there. Hopefully some of that will pan out better over the course of the season. But this one was definitely a relapse in terms of quality.
The White Martians are probably still running Mars.
Unless J'onn killed them all before he left for Earth?
If the White Martians are still thriving on Mars, lounging on powdered grit made from the bones of Green Martian children, then it's unlikely that Megan would call herself the Last daughter of Mars.
Unless J'onn killed them all before he left for Earth?
If the White Martians are still thriving on Mars, lounging on powdered grit made from the bones of Green Martian children, then it's unlikely that Megan would call herself the Last daughter of Mars.
Maybe that was just the lighting in the alley?
I don't see an inconsistency there. He'd just woken up and he was panicked and afraid, so he defended himself and ran. Then he was stranded and desperate on an alien planet and he just wanted to go home. It makes sense that someone who wasn't intrinsically hostile could still feel desperate and afraid and be provoked to fighting or threatening people. Aggression is often motivated by fear.
The main thing that bugged me about Mon-El's escape from the DEO is that the glass door to the balcony automatically slid open when he approached -- even though the alarms were going off inside. You'd think that locking the doors to the outside would be an automatic part of any alert protocol. This is what I'm saying about what a bad idea it is to put a DEO facility in the middle of the city, instead of way out in the desert in an underground bunker.
I dunno, I think that's often the way it is for decent people with unexamined prejudices. I've been through similar things myself -- holding a certain attitude toward a certain type of person, then being told something or reading something that offered a perspective I hadn't considered before and made me take a good look at my preconception for the first time and realize it was unfair. For instance, I used to be bothered when gay men talked and acted in an effeminate way, not because I was homophobic, but because I felt that way of acting was a homophobic stereotype and that gay people who acted that way were just buying into cultural myths and hurting themselves by going along with the preconception. But I finally realized that acting "camp" is something that many gay men do by choice for their own reasons, and that I was just being self-righteous and intolerant in a different way by imposing my own limited assumptions about what was an "acceptable" way to be gay.
That's how prejudice is for most people, really -- not an intentional choice to discriminate, but just blindly accepting a myth that you've been exposed to all your life, or failing to consider a different perspective on a question because it's never occurred to you to look at things that way. So a lot of the time, all it takes is to have the myth or the flaw in your thinking pointed out to you, and once you actually take a critical look at it for the first time, that can change your mind, or at least make you willing to change your mind.
That's the cool thing about Supergirl. She's not a flawless paragon. She makes mistakes, holds points of view that can be overly harsh or unfair, but she's rational and honest enough to be able to question herself and listen to criticism, and that gives her the ability to improve and change her mind. And that's what makes a good person. Not being perfect from the start, but being willing to admit and correct one's shortcomings and thereby get progressively better.
I dunno... unfortunately, the idea of a middle-aged white male American not respecting the authority of a black man seems very plausible to me (just look at Congress over the past 8 years). That's probably not where they intend to go with Snapper, but maybe there's something there as subtext. And James's (lack of) reaction was a result of him being new in the job. And he made up for it by the end of the episode.
I don't think so, but who knows.
I could justify the escape from the deo, especially since he woke up next to a Kryptonian. But when he entered the observatory, the very first thing he did (before even saying a word) was lift an innocent man by the neck several feet off the ground. That is not what 'I don't want to hurt anyone' looks like.
Perhaps. I do agree that it's nice that she isn't flawless. But I still found the entire thing incredibly over the top.
Well, I find the real life examples idiotic, as well. I could go along with it being 'realistic' in that sense if I really believed that was where they were going with this character. But like you say, I doubt that's actually the case. It seems pretty clear that this was supposed to be another example of his antagonistic 'no bs' attitude, and the idea of him doing that to that degree to literally the ceo of his entire company and basically just getting away with it is dumb.
People who don't want to hurt anyone can still choose to do it anyway if they're frightened and desperate enough. People sometimes feel they have to do things that they don't want to do. And frightened people often do stupid things.
Well, I dunno. A lot of racism isn't conscious, active bigotry, just an unexamined reflex to undervalue another person's worth or disregard their opinions. It could certainly be there as a subtext even if it's not meant to be an overt plot point.
And that's why he didn't ultimately get away with it -- James stood up to him, made him realize what a jerk he was being, and got him to back down and "stay in his lane." Plot arcs are about problems and resoutions. It's incomplete to talk about the problem part of the arc without acknowledging its resolution. If there hadn't been a problem between Snapper and James, there would've been no story. The problem was both that Snapper was out of line and that James was not assertive enough in pointing it out. The resolution was that James got assertive about it and refused to let it happen a second time, whereupon Snapper learned his lesson and got in line.
I don't think she tried to put it out of commission; she successfully and surgically damaged whatever circuits gave an 'alien' indication. And as it was a prototype, they would just assume the damage or faulty functioning was because they still haven't got the design perfected.
As to how she 'knew' what to damage - she's from a world with greatly advanced tech (IE she could understand what's in the device at a glace; and she has X-Ray vision to see inside.
The directors and stunt coordinators are rather amateurish. Its as though all involved have never dealt with action material before, and as a result, cannot execute fight scenes. The best work in the series are usually some single, short display of strength--such as SG pushing the car against Metallo's blast.
Lynda Carter is just not a strong actress. It was a miracle she held Wonder Woman together for three seasons. As for her character being poorly written--true--the writers were too busy trying to sell how "cool" she was, that she did not act at all like someone in that position of power. Adding to that, he incredibly naive amnesty plot made her seem childish. The only saving grace for that is if Marsdin--as an alien--pushed the amnesty act to serve a darker purpose for humankind, which justifies Cadmus' mission.
The series often has characters attack people or cause enough mayhem that collateral damage should be a problem...but its all cleaned up with no lasting effect.
The writers cannot handle such material--it was misguided and shows a lack of real world experience with the complex and serious subject of racial discrimination; all we were served was a series of feel-good, immature platitudes, and the expected end result of Supergirl being a hypocrite for her own racially demeaning beliefs. If that was "the big point," it failed in favor of preaching.
You are correct...unfortunately, you will have to get used to it; the showrunners are determined to push certain ideas in areas where it makes no sense at all. She is not Supergirl. Alex is an ordinary human, and even with weapons it makes no sense for her to face off against superior threats or numbers. She's not enhanced like Steve Rogers or Bucky Barnes--who are capable of fighting organic or mechanically enhanced beings. Compare Alex to Black Widow; as well trained as BW is, she did not dare try to fight the Hulk in The Avengers. Why would she? No matter what weapon she (or SHIELD) had, it would be suicidal for any non-enhanced (organically or mechanically) to go toe-to-toe with something as powerful as the Hulk. Take it down a level--she cannot handle super soldiers, so this kind of limitation should apply to any regular human.
This should apply to Alex, but again, you will have to get used to seeing the subject of your observation week after week.
Agreed.
Some will argue this was a plotting necessity in order to quickly have James settle into his role as boss, but yes, such blatant disrespect of a superior would lead to more than Olsen's "walk" suggestion.
The only payoff will be how this president matter inspires Cadmus to ramp up their plans.
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Why would she even show it to Kara, a rookie reporter, in the first place?
If she really expects this to be in every home at some point, then that's the sort of device you announce at a big event thingy, not as a minor sidepiece in the coverage of a larger story.
No, in fact Lena the only one there that does know what the results mean.
She could have told Kara whatever she wanted about the results.
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Maybe not, but overall, in the past she's had better line delivery overall. In watching some of her scenes I was honestly wondering if she had a small stroke sometime earlier (in the past few years) that was affecting her speech; because in some of her line delivery there was sometimes a small slur to her speech in general -- unless she somehow got a little tipsy on the set or something.
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