Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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Yeah...they could stand to mix that down quite a bit during dialogue. Not great.
You do realize that the image is of Kara visiting Star City, right?
True. But how many of the other Superman themes can you hum by heart?
I can hum the Lois & Clark theme better than the Williams theme..
The Arcade Game.
You probably have a better memory and/or musically attuned ear than me. The only thing I remember from Lois & Clark is the Bonnie Tyler song!
I hum the man of steel theme all the time. Obviously its not entirely the same without every part interacting, but really nothing is.
Do not hold your breath. A couple of guest spots is as far as it will likely go, and the ratings of this series will determine much going forward.
With the movies being the quality giant among DC adaptations--Superman being one of its core characters for JL and beyond--WB is building that Superman as the live action face for the world.
True--and over the decades, cultural and film scoring historians have noted Williams work is the definitive music for the character, to the point where all other music to follow--whether in animation or live action--is compared in a generally negative way--not living up to the wealth of character Williams brought to superhero music.
Having watched that clip a few times now I love Tyler Hoechlin's delivery especially the "Absolutely.". He sounds confident and sure but not smug and that he's got your back.
You're asking the wrong person. I have what my musician father considered an uncanny memory for sound patterns. I pretty much automatically memorize any piece of music I hear enough times. Some of the themes I mentioned are more hummable than others, but I can remember how every one of them goes, complete with orchestration, although sometimes it takes a while to locate the less-accessed files in my mental music folder.
And Gruska's Lois & Clark theme is probably my favorite Superman theme of all. I'm very fond of the Jones theme, although it's the one that's the most direct Williams pastiche, since the '88 show's main titles segued directly from the Williams theme to the Jones theme and thus the Jones theme was written to sound like a direct continuation of it. (Apparently they only had the rights to use the Williams theme in the main titles, since the Jones theme was used everywhere else in the show.) And of course you gotta love the Timberg theme, the one that started it all.
^ You must save a lot of money on buying albums.
It's not that exact. But yeah, I used to memorize some of my movie-soundtrack albums so completely that I could pretty much "play back" the entire things in my head, which was handy since I didn't have a Walkman yet.
Exactly. It's the most memorable and recognizable Superman theme.
For example
I don't remember Smallville using the George Reeves superman theme or Lois and Clark version when they wanted to pay homage.
Or the Supergirl clip and the Superboy tv series theme
Those didn't leave their lasting impression/ mark likes Williams theme did for 30-40 years.
The villains for the four part crossover have been revealed:
http://tvline.com/2016/09/29/dominators-cw-crossover-four-way-arrow-flash/
http://tvline.com/2016/09/29/dominators-cw-crossover-four-way-arrow-flash/
It's an elementary mistake to confuse fame with quality or value.
And frankly I much prefer later Smallville composer Louis Febre's choice to create an original heroic theme for Clark to Mark Snow's slavish imitation of Williams, which clashed completely with the whiny atmospheric droning of his usual scoring.
And I'm not saying I want those to be used here either. I'm saying just the opposite -- that I want creativity rather than copying. Blake Neely is good at writing superhero themes (I especially love his Hawkgirl/Hawkman motif), and I want to hear what he has to offer as a Superman theme. And I want him to be appreciated for his invaluable contribution to these DC shows, not dismissed as unimportant because he isn't John Williams. He deserves better than that.
After all, Williams's theme is itself an homage to the Timberg and Klatzkin themes. He referenced what came before, yes, but he didn't just copy it; he created something of his own in the same style, the same tradition of a heroic march. And the composers who've come since have mostly done the same. They've paid tribute to Williams and their other predecessors without simply copying.
Lois & Clark composer Jay Gruska is married to John Williams' daughter.
Interesting. I've never heard of them before.
