Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Kai "the spy"]

Ah. Well, then, sorry for wise-assing your smartassy-ness.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

It strikes me that 2 TV shows have ended their seasons with a marriage proposal,,, TBBT and SG.

At least Maggie looked excited at her's while the lady in TBBT's proposal just looks stunned.

Other things I liked about this ep included the Lena & Lillian stuff.

The way Lena's red wedding dress was laying on the floor next to her couch as she was moping in her office.

The way Lena was showing her guilt over what she helped Rhea do, while pointing out to her mother that if she used validation instead of intimidation then Lena would not have been as susceptible to Rhea's lies / interest.

The way Lena apologized for Lillian's comments / attitude when the Supers showed up on her balcony, "Unfortunately, this is her on her best behavior."

I have to admit, I also liked the way Lena made sure to point out to Supergirl that Rhea's son would have to leave and never return. Making sure that Kara's friend knew how important Monel was to their mutual friend, Kara Danvers. I especially liked the way SG glanced at Lillian before giving Lena the order to keep working on the failsafe device. I wonder, was Lillian going to out Supergirl right there if she tried to tell Lena to trash the device?

I even liked the repeated image of a loved one waking up the injured, like when Monel told Kara she was in the Fortress of Solitude which shocked her to wakefulness and when M'Gann told J'onn to wake up from his coma.

Although I laughed at the Star Wars comments this week (almost as good as last week when Supergirl called Cyborg Superman "R2") I howled after Cat predicted cousin Kalel would be a "tiger" in bed and Kara walked away looking green about the gills as she muttered "I hope Rhea kills me."

At the risk of re-igniting an argument that raged most of today, I would like to point out that Superman never said Supergirl was physically stronger than him, "just" that she beat him and so was the Champion of Earth. As has been mentioned above, "on any given Sunday...anyone can win."

And speaking of "stronger together" I really liked how J'onn turned to Superman in the DEO as he morphed into his alter ego to fight with his old friend against the Daxamites.

I cried a little when the little sister called out for her hero to "do something, tell me what to do!" And heard the response she couldn't bear to hear.

"There's nothing to do."


I wondered why (aside from time constraints) Lena did not go to console Kara at the end, until I realized her own guilt over allowing the Daxamites to come to Earth in the first place and her re-purposing the Luthor device into Daxamite killing machine would make Lena think Kara must hate her.

Next year should be quite interesting.

 

[Jayson1]

My only problem with Superman loosing to Kara is that I don't think it works because they made him kind of weak.. The fight should have been longer or maybe we should see 2 fights where he wins the first one and she wins the second one, and thus she finally earns the place of being up their with Superman as one's it's protectors. They then fight Reah and maybe he destroys the ship while she stop's the villian and saves the incocent people aboard it by pushing herself into doing something she has never done before in a fight.
Not sure why this argument has to become a man vs women fight instead of a typical nerd fight.

Jason

 

[Nerys Myk]

At least Maggie looked excited at her's while the lady in TBBT's proposal just looks stunned.

It's Sheldon, of course Amy was stunned.

 

[Snaploud]

I do wonder why neither Mon-el nor Lena seemed inclined to follow up upon the DNA Rhea stole. Lena, in particular, is supposed to be some kind of genius, but they just let that one go.

 

[DigificWriter]

@JanewayRulz! Cat didn't "predict" that Clark is a tiger in bed when those glasses come off; she promised it as a statement of factual reality... which, as noted earlier, was pretty obviously meant to be a crystal-clear indicator that she knows his secret just as she knows Kara's secret, especially when considered in light of the latter revelation.

 

[Gov Kodos]

It is NOT sexist to point out the physical superiority of males in hand to hand combat or athleticism. It is ignorant to ignore that.

It is sexist. It is sexist and absurd to maintain fiction must adhere to it. Superman is fictional. If a good story can be had from it, he'll get beat by a three legged kitten.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

I do wonder why neither Mon-el nor Lena seemed inclined to follow up upon the DNA Rhea stole. Lena, in particular, is supposed to be some kind of genius, but they just let that one go.

Well, since the only way the rescue trio got on the Daxamites ship last week was through a device in the Fortress of Solitude and without Supergirl or Superman, she would not get through the front door...

Plus there was no time to mount a search and "destroy the stolen DNA" mission while trying to prevent the subjugation of Earth.

 

[Tuskin38]

he'll get beat by a tree legged kitten

You probably meant three, but the image of a Kitten with tree like legs kicking Superman just made me laugh.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You probably meant three, but the image of a Kitten with tree like legs kicking Superman just made me laugh.

Superman, kittens and trees. A classic combo.

 

[Gov Kodos]

You probably meant three, but the image of a Kitten with tree like legs kicking Superman just made me laugh.

And its bark will be worse than its bite.

 

[Snaploud]

Well, since the only way the rescue trio got on the Daxamites ship last week was through a device in the Fortress of Solitude and without Supergirl or Superman, she would not get through the front door...

Plus there was no time to mount a search and "destroy the stolen DNA" mission while trying to prevent the subjugation of Earth.

Fair enough. Mon-el could have at least asked Rhea about it (to see if she started the process) or told Kara he was directing his ship at the Daxamite fleet to find out.

 

[JanewayRulz!]

@JanewayRulz! Cat didn't "predict" that Clark is a tiger in bed when those glasses come off; she promised it as a statement of factual reality... which, as noted earlier, was pretty obviously meant to be a crystal-clear indicator that she knows his secret just as she knows Kara's secret, especially when considered in light of the latter revelation.

That is definitely one valid interpretation of that statement.

I just took it to be a statement of her fantasies re: Clark Kent, and Kara couldn't handle the idea of her substitute foster mom in bed with cousin Kalel.

Do I have any evidence supporting that belief? Not really, but if they had a physical relationship, I really can't see Lois letting Clark anywhere National City and Cat Grant without her riding shotgun.

With an ACTUAL shotgun!

 

[DigificWriter]

If someone uses the phrase "I promise you", they're speaking in the first person and divulging personal first-hand knowledge, so Cat definitely slept with Clark at some point in the past.

As far as Lois goes, though, we have no indication that she holds the same kind of enmity towards Cat that Cat holds towards her, and it's entirely possible that Clark and Cat were a 'thing' before he (Clark) fell in love with her (Lois).

 

[Gov Kodos]

If someone uses the phrase "I promise you", they're speaking in the first person and divulging personal first-hand knowledge, so Cat definitely slept with Clark at some point in the past.

As far as Lois goes, though, we have no indication that she holds the same kind of enmity towards Cat that Cat holds towards her, and it's entirely possible that Clark and Cat were a 'thing' before he (Clark) fell in love with her (Lois).

Cat's got no Ls. Besides, Lana was there first for Clark.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It's the spray of gunshot residue preceding the bullet, that weakens them to a point that the bullet hurts these dog soldiers... ####.

Complain about Superman being wussified all you want, they did it to Mon-El first, who is supposed to be the equal of Superman, but instead he was down powered to be only slightly stronger than a human being, so that Supergirl would still be the star of the show and not being put into any kind of All About Eve situation.

 

[Spot261]

I wouldn't normally comment on this but since you have brought up this little introspection, I feel it's okay to do so. Please understand that this is just a statement on your posts, not your character.

You're saying you're "analytical" and I don't doubt that. Many of us are, but that doesn't mean your posts always convey that.
There is a difference between "verbose" and "analytical" posts.

I'm a researcher and I need my analytical skills to make a living. So when somebody replies to a post of mine to explain something that I have just said myself, it feels somewhat condescending and a little absurd. I assume you didn't mean for it to come across that way which is why I wasn't particularly annoyed.
Using the above example my already succinct post can be summed up as: "Apparently female Kryptonians are stronger than male ones... or she is just better (at fighting)."
And you replied to that by explaining that very last part of my post in all its trivial details. Do you honestly think I didn't have all those thoughts when I wrote the summary? You probably just felt it would be fun to elaborate on that, but given the fact that I had already posted the end result of those thoughts ("Kara is just better at fighting; skill can beat strength"), it looked like you just wanted to explain something to me that clearly did not need explaining because it was trivial and had already lead to my own post.

I think what people are hinting at with their continued criticism, is that there is a very common recurring theme in your posts that makes them come across as overly lecturing and condescending while dealing with the most trivial things. Again, I don't think you are doing this on purpose but you often explain or lecture people on things they are already very well aware of (and at times they've even said those things themselves already).

Another recent example would be Timby's frustrated post in a different thread, in which you kept explaining things everybody had agreed on already and defending points nobody was attacking. People feel they're being lectured on something they already know.

The verbosity of your posts then tends to be irritating when it's paired with just a very superficial analysis of a given topic based on something you just researched on the internet quickly like any of us can do. When you do that, it feels like you're presenting trivial ideas or superficial research with a verbosity and lecturing tone that doesn't match the actual content.

Now... you obviously don't always do that. In fact, most of your posts aren't like that and I've enjoyed quite a few of them in the past. But you do it often enough that it irritates people. This is why they react to your posts in a rather frustrated way at times.
I'm sure you don't mean to cause this and I assume that you're well aware of the fact that this site is full of well-educated people with good analytical skills who don't need to be lectured. And I'm sure you also know that you're not "smarter than the rest" here. So when your posts occasionally come across to us the way they do, you could try and reconsider the approach a little.

Slow applause

 

[Skipper]

^I don't know. If someone wanted to write me something like that, I would prefer him or her to do it with a private message.. Because, you know, this is a thread about Supergirl, not an intervation. I'm a mere bystander, and yet I feel a little uncomfortable reading something like this.

 

[Spot261]

Maybe a fair point and I respect that you feel drawn into something that you want no part of.

On the other hand I suspect the reason this is coming to a fore in such a manner is the feeling that scores of people politely dropping the hint has simply not sunk in....

Emilia is frankly just trying to get the message to stick in the way she knows best, by being more literate, eloquent and capable than the next poster, which nine times out of ten she is.

 

[FreezeC77]

I have to admit, I also liked the way Lena made sure to point out to Supergirl that Rhea's son would have to leave and never return. Making sure that Kara's friend knew how important Monel was to their mutual friend, Kara Danvers. I especially liked the way SG glanced at Lillian before giving Lena the order to keep working on the failsafe device. I wonder, was Lillian going to out Supergirl right there if she tried to tell Lena to trash the device?

At the risk of re-igniting an argument that raged most of today, I would like to point out that Superman never said Supergirl was physically stronger than him, "just" that she beat him and so was the Champion of Earth. As has been mentioned above, "on any given Sunday...anyone can win."

And speaking of "stronger together" I really liked how J'onn turned to Superman in the DEO as he morphed into his alter ego to fight with his old friend against the Daxamites.

I cried a little when the little sister called out for her hero to "do something, tell me what to do!" And heard the response she couldn't bear to hear.

"There's nothing to do."


I wondered why (aside from time constraints) Lena did not go to console Kara at the end, until I realized her own guilt over allowing the Daxamites to come to Earth in the first place and her re-purposing the Luthor device into Daxamite killing machine would make Lena think Kara must hate her.

Next year should be quite interesting.

There is already one lesbian relationship and while there is certainly no rule saying there can't be another between another main character, but Kara and Lena have better chemistry together than any male love interest she has had on the show.

As to the Supergirl v Superman fight. I think it was hilarious pandering for her show that she won. Superman has so much more experience fighting even stronger better trained kill hungry enemies than Kara.

Your any given Sunday point doesn't really work though. This wasn't viewed as a lucky win by Superman. With the fate of the Earth in the balance he told Kara to be the champion and at that point put her as stronger than him.

You can definitely argue it was a one-off similar to explaining the Flash finale. Superman was fighting Zodd in his mind, but really fighting Kara. Different body sizes could mean areas he targeted on Zodd didnt match with Kara. But Superman tosses that out the window when he decides Kara has a better chance to win and save the Earth imo.

The 1980 Olympics "Miracle on Ice" had the superior Soviets lose to an inferior American team. If you told anyone with real knowledge of the game the fate of the planet depended on picking the winner in a rematch 99.9999999% of people would pick the Soviets.

This isnt a one-off win. The show has now established Supergirl > Superman.