Point is: there's precedent, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibility.
Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2
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Point is: there's precedent, so it's not beyond the bounds of possibility.
Yeah, its not that difficult to read the source material....
In fact, as with the Silver/Bronze Age Superman/Kryptonians, Mon-El could fly interstellar distances under his own power at FTL speeds...and unlike with Superman, the Legion creative team of the time didn't downgrade that ability post-Crisis. There was one post-Crisis story in which Mon-El brought a dwarf star to Legion HQ to power a device of Brainy's...which is rife with other problems, but he didn't go out and grab a dwarf star with a flight ring.
In old Legion lore, he was responsible for discovering the anti-gravity element with which flight rings would be made, so perhaps there was some confusion there.
In old Legion lore, he was responsible for discovering the anti-gravity element with which flight rings would be made, so perhaps there was some confusion there.
I think some are confusing Mon-El and fellow Legion member Ultra Boy. He gained powers by absorbing radiation in space. It gave him most of the same powers as a Kryptonian or Daxamite under a yellow sun with a huge exception. He is only able to use one power at a time. So I believe he is very dependent on his Flight Ring so he can also use other powers while flying.
^ That could be it.
I always thought Ultra Boy was pretty nifty conceptually, but having either Superman-level strength or Superman-level invulnerability, but not both, is a pretty sucky situation for general melee. You can give or you can take, not both.
I always thought Ultra Boy was pretty nifty conceptually, but having either Superman-level strength or Superman-level invulnerability, but not both, is a pretty sucky situation for general melee. You can give or you can take, not both.
I don't think it's even possible to have superstrength without super-durability. After all, there's Newton's Third Law: For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. Whatever force you exert on something you hit, an equal amount of force is exerted on your own body. Not to mention that if you have superstrong muscles, they're pulling with superhuman force against their anchor points on your bones, and they're imparting high accelerations on your limbs and organs. If your durability isn't commensurate with your strength, you'd do at least as much damage to yourself as to your opponents. (Don't people sometimes have muscle spasms so forceful that they break their own bones?)
Kryptonians of the era could stand on their hands and push a planet...scientific plausibility clearly wasn't much of a consideration.
You're right. It was not--it was pure comic book fantasy with each power designed to serve the demands of the story and need for super-heroic spectacle. No one was reading comics with the expectation of scientific plausibility as the very nature of most comic creations kicked real world explanations out of the window.
So I know I can't stand Mon-El (or at least his position in the narrative, since it's possible to enjoy even the most loathesome characters so long as the story sees them that way too), but other than Trek_God_1, I don't recall seeing any other strong feelings about his character one way or the other.
Anyone want to share thoughts? I can share mine first if you like.
Anyone want to share thoughts? I can share mine first if you like.
What do you mean?
(Doh - the scene under discussion is at 3 minutes 30 secods in - seems the BBS doesn't parse YouTube time marks in links)
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^ Yep, they're doing it there because he could do it in the comics of the time.
Christian Bale was great as the telepath and it looks like Winn learned something from Independence Day.
Your wish was answered. But he got a little help.
Supergirl
"Distant Sun"--
SG/Kara: The series lacks any sort of backbone, forever catering the TeenNick part of the audience. The showrunners could not have Kara keep her convictions about Mon-El for even the collective minutes of an entire episode (crossover included).
Sooo, damn the alien president's order because "she can't lose him?" It would have been halfway convincing if this CW romance had been built in any layered, believable fashion.
Wait....with his lone relative in danger by aliens on the loose, where is TV-Superman? No one can give this an excuse (AKA writing for the series) of "well, Superman was busy" If the series cannot consistently use important characters where it would count most, it just knocks the series down yet another rung.
Alex: "Not that I doubt you.." Why not? Supergirl is not invincible. "We need to strike back" - with what that will not mean the end of earth? Poor plotting with this hot headed crap again.
Mon-El: Soo, he's willing to send all--including Winn--into the vacuum of space all for some hairbrained intervention? Yawn....and yes, it was a total rip of the General Grievous scene from Revenge of the Sith. The showrunners love copy+pasting Star Wars. Back to the TeenNick plots.
James: Over and done in a single scene...and outshined by Winn; all of his positive moments from "Star Crossed" flushed. Sad. Even his costumed identity has been neutered.
Winn: The most fun part of the episodes this season.
Mama-El: Well, of course she's not going away.
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Lynda Carter's "acting" has taken a turn for the...well, its just horrible since her Wonder Woman days. She's awful, and unlike some actresses, lacks the ability to just tap into her natural personality to make up for what her "talent" cannot deliver.
Sorbo's attentive father role was the most believable performance on the series. No "twirling mustache" motives, but his being responsible for Metro-El returning to earth was telegraphed. It was sad to see his character die.
The Fortress scene opening on the Legion Flight ring. Yes, that was a planet-sized tease. I would love to spoil that, but....
...and Kevin Smith was needed for what reason? As in the case of his other SG episode ("Supergirl Lives") he is hyped in a way suggesting he's some comic adaptation power, when he's anything but. Bland effort that was indistinguishable from the work of other series directors.
GRADE: D+
"Distant Sun"--
SG/Kara: The series lacks any sort of backbone, forever catering the TeenNick part of the audience. The showrunners could not have Kara keep her convictions about Mon-El for even the collective minutes of an entire episode (crossover included).
Sooo, damn the alien president's order because "she can't lose him?" It would have been halfway convincing if this CW romance had been built in any layered, believable fashion.
Wait....with his lone relative in danger by aliens on the loose, where is TV-Superman? No one can give this an excuse (AKA writing for the series) of "well, Superman was busy" If the series cannot consistently use important characters where it would count most, it just knocks the series down yet another rung.
Alex: "Not that I doubt you.." Why not? Supergirl is not invincible. "We need to strike back" - with what that will not mean the end of earth? Poor plotting with this hot headed crap again.
Mon-El: Soo, he's willing to send all--including Winn--into the vacuum of space all for some hairbrained intervention? Yawn....and yes, it was a total rip of the General Grievous scene from Revenge of the Sith. The showrunners love copy+pasting Star Wars. Back to the TeenNick plots.
James: Over and done in a single scene...and outshined by Winn; all of his positive moments from "Star Crossed" flushed. Sad. Even his costumed identity has been neutered.
Winn: The most fun part of the episodes this season.
Mama-El: Well, of course she's not going away.
NOTES:
Lynda Carter's "acting" has taken a turn for the...well, its just horrible since her Wonder Woman days. She's awful, and unlike some actresses, lacks the ability to just tap into her natural personality to make up for what her "talent" cannot deliver.
Sorbo's attentive father role was the most believable performance on the series. No "twirling mustache" motives, but his being responsible for Metro-El returning to earth was telegraphed. It was sad to see his character die.
The Fortress scene opening on the Legion Flight ring. Yes, that was a planet-sized tease. I would love to spoil that, but....
...and Kevin Smith was needed for what reason? As in the case of his other SG episode ("Supergirl Lives") he is hyped in a way suggesting he's some comic adaptation power, when he's anything but. Bland effort that was indistinguishable from the work of other series directors.
GRADE: D+
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"Hey, that's me!" 
Only Supergirl could geek out over her own wanted poster.
I think this is the first time we've heard President Marsdin's name spoken onscreen, and it's also the first time we've seen her full alien appearance. Still no more clue what's going on there, though.
I have a hard time believing how quickly James changed into Guardian and traveled way over to that parking structure several blocks from Kara's apartment. He doesn't have superspeed, after all. It would've made more sense for him to go after the telepath, especially since he was pretty useless in the Kara/Mon-El fight.
In other news, Lois Lane killed Hercules.
Only Supergirl could geek out over her own wanted poster.I think this is the first time we've heard President Marsdin's name spoken onscreen, and it's also the first time we've seen her full alien appearance. Still no more clue what's going on there, though.
I have a hard time believing how quickly James changed into Guardian and traveled way over to that parking structure several blocks from Kara's apartment. He doesn't have superspeed, after all. It would've made more sense for him to go after the telepath, especially since he was pretty useless in the Kara/Mon-El fight.
In other news, Lois Lane killed Hercules.
It was certainly better than "Supergirl Lives" which I thought was the weakest episode of the entire series so far.
I started out hating Mon El but I'm warming to him. He's really trying to be a better person.
Another great line from Winn "You finally watched Star Wars!" The look on his face was priceless!
I started out hating Mon El but I'm warming to him. He's really trying to be a better person.
Another great line from Winn "You finally watched Star Wars!" The look on his face was priceless!
I so knew that Mommy Mon El was going to kill Daddy Mon El!
I'm a little unclear on why Supergirl wanted J'onn to impersonate her, instead of just going in as Martian Manhunter. I guess it was both to distract Rhea and take her by surprise/make her overconfident, but it still seems a more convoluted plan than it needed to be. And it didn't really work, because Supergirl ended up on the ship and fighting Rhea again anyway.
Was the alien telepath supposed to be a nod to the DC villain Psimon? I could swear his rippling bald head looked like an exposed brain.
Rhea was one bad mother ... She really was a vicious mom! She was the one who put a bounty on Supergirl and easily overpowered her with a kryptonite-laced weapon. I had a hard time believing Kara was no match against Rhea in combat, considering the latter didn't even have the power of the yellow sun. But I guess kryptonite is kryptonite. Then she went on to kill her king husband.
"I'm not done with this world yet," says Susan Mayer-Delfino of Wisteria Lane, one of the former housewives of Fairview. We know what's going to happen next. She threatens the planet, chaos ensues, Supergirl defeats her with the help of Mon El, and Mon El is forced to leave Earth anyway to be the new leader of Daxam. Supergirl is heartbroken, but at least James is still around.
Rhea was one bad mother ... She really was a vicious mom! She was the one who put a bounty on Supergirl and easily overpowered her with a kryptonite-laced weapon. I had a hard time believing Kara was no match against Rhea in combat, considering the latter didn't even have the power of the yellow sun. But I guess kryptonite is kryptonite. Then she went on to kill her king husband.
"I'm not done with this world yet," says Susan Mayer-Delfino of Wisteria Lane, one of the former housewives of Fairview. We know what's going to happen next. She threatens the planet, chaos ensues, Supergirl defeats her with the help of Mon El, and Mon El is forced to leave Earth anyway to be the new leader of Daxam. Supergirl is heartbroken, but at least James is still around.
So has Supergirl basically changed direction for the last few episodes of Season 2 from what came before. I mean we started the season with Superman, continued the season wish Aliens and Immigration, and Dean Cain, and now we have this Daximite storyline which feels to me like the writers didn't know what to do to end the season so this feels tacked on. Also, Sorbo getting killed was so predictable that now that we wait a few weeks for new episodes, I can't say I'm excited to see what happens next. I will say I hope they bring back Dean Cain and that story because those two episodes were the best episodes of the second half of the season, even though the first part I felt Alex was completely out of character. Overall though, I enjoyed it as an arc.
I did like the stuff with Maggie and Alex though, and I think overall that has been the most consistent part of the season. I just love the chemistry between Leigh and Lima, even though I really do miss the sister stuff between Leigh and Benoist.
Overall, for this episode, I did like it but looking at the big season 2 picture, I almost get this really cynical feeling about it.
I did like the stuff with Maggie and Alex though, and I think overall that has been the most consistent part of the season. I just love the chemistry between Leigh and Lima, even though I really do miss the sister stuff between Leigh and Benoist.
Overall, for this episode, I did like it but looking at the big season 2 picture, I almost get this really cynical feeling about it.
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