Spoilers Supergirl - Season 2

[Christopher]

By the way, why did the prison need to stick Livewire's feet in a tub of water to keep her from using her powers? They said last season in "Worlds Finest" that the Flash provided the National City authorities with the power-damping tech from the Pipeline so they could contain Livewire and Silver Banshee. I guess maybe that's what Livewire's handcuffs were supposed to be -- the blue lights on them were reminiscent of the power-suppression bracelets Caitlin has been wearing on The Flash -- but the dialogue of her scene with the psychiatrist suggested that the only thing stopping Livewire from using her powers was the pain of electrocution from the water. So that was odd.

 

[Nerys Myk]

By the way, why did the prison need to stick Livewire's feet in a tub of water to keep her from using her powers?

She'd been on her feet all day.

 

[dahj]

^^
In prison? Nah.
She probably just had a pedicure scheduled after the psychologist.

 

[John Clark]

now we need Tom Welling to complete the set

If they do that, one of my mates will just go on and on (and on etc) about how it's a continuation of Smallville and that Smallville will be returning to tv later this year (Even with Tom Welling playing a completely different character in Supergirl if he does appear)

 

[Guy Gardener]

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[TREK_GOD_1]

Yes, they didn't say zero chemistry. That are just my words. But the way they abruptly and awkwardly got rid of their relationship despite building up towards it for so long indicates to me, that they think they weren't working together at all.

It means the PTB cowered to the allegedly open-minded SG fanbase who spent most of its time attacking both Mechad Brooks and the James character with statements usually beginning with, "Look I'm not racist, but..." Which is all you need to know about the "why" of anything that followed. That kind of statement was not presented in a vacuum, but fairly widespread.

Mon-El is for sure not the most innovative character ever, but he is at least fun.

Soft frat boy/metro personalities that need to have their "dark secret" and/or "heart of gold" unearthed are tired plot devices dating back to the beginning of televised soap operas. Boring beyond belief. No matter what "I've got a dark secret--will you sill love me?" plots they shove into the character, it will come off as forced window dressing to bolster the true purpose of the character--to be that typical CW soft frat boy/metro casting to appeal to a certain demographic.

But he acts like doing good with only words is beneath him and worthless

He's not acting as if its worthless--he was developed to be man of high moral character with a desire to do more. Its not his fault of being a news jockey is not enough. Hell, he was the one who had to repeatedly shepherd Kara in how to be a hero and how to apply decision making in that narrow realm of service...not that she listened to much of his sage advice...

So he goes around punching bad guys now, which he is miraculous good at despite massively lacking experience and training.

If you can accept Alex trying to fight anyone with superpowers sans any unique weapons (which happens more than it should), then James--with an augmented suit/shield is equipped to fight random, human thugs.

Finally watched this week's ep.

I was shocked that Kara just took Guardian's helmet right off while he was knocked out. Dammit, woman, there's a superhero code, ya know!

The series was playing up her neverending acts of jealousy / hypocrisy. She is not authorized to unmask anyone, or judge the actions of another fighting crime (note how she did beat that drum in the Flash guest appearance). She's been so hostile to Guardian being a successful crime fighter that instead of being concerned with his well being, she was all about learning his true identity. She loves the attention of the public, but resents anyone else getting the same--and he's not seeking attention for his service.

Although James certainly made his case against SG's intrusive / would-be controlling behavior against him (and Winn), as mentioned last week, this series really needs a Batman type of character to introduce her to the reality of humans crime fighting--especially when others around her (Alex above all others) engage in the very thing she's critical of James for doing.

 

[dahj]

And Alex is also the medical doctor/scientist who runs all the tests on alien patients?

That's why she was recruited by the D.E.O. in the first place, as a scientist and alien biology expert.
So that's actually her real job, kicking ass in the field is just something she does on the side

 

[JD]

By the way, why did the prison need to stick Livewire's feet in a tub of water to keep her from using her powers? They said last season in "Worlds Finest" that the Flash provided the National City authorities with the power-damping tech from the Pipeline so they could contain Livewire and Silver Banshee. I guess maybe that's what Livewire's handcuffs were supposed to be -- the blue lights on them were reminiscent of the power-suppression bracelets Caitlin has been wearing on The Flash -- but the dialogue of her scene with the psychiatrist suggested that the only thing stopping Livewire from using her powers was the pain of electrocution from the water. So that was odd.

Yeah, that seemed weird to me too.

 

[kirk55555]

Kevin Sorbo To Recur On ‘Supergirl’ As Mysterious New Villain

So, Supergirl is bringing in the guy whose only moments of relevance since the 90s were starring in a high profile christian propaganda film (which was complete garbage, like every film of its type), and going on a huge racist rant? He also claimed that jewish people run Hollywood, which is why biblical movies aren't a big deal. Not the kind of guy I'd expect to see on Supergirl. He actually seems like one of the last D-list actors they'd cast, really. Well, Supergirl is going to be remarkable awkward for a few episodes.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Dean Cain co-stared in the same movie.
Though he is understandable as a former Superman actor.
I generally try to separate the actor from the character.

 

[Cake]

So, Supergirl is bringing in the guy whose only moments of relevance since the 90s were starring in a high profile christian propaganda film (which was complete garbage, like every film of its type), and going on a huge racist rant?

He also had the lead role in Andromeda, which ran from 2000 - 2005.

 

[Kemaiku]

He also had the lead role in Andromeda, which ran from 2000 - 2005.

Yeah, but then he started his evangelical film career. Which has consisted of fundementalist propaganda films praising things like creationism and anti-science movements. Basically taking the hard-right stance of anti-intellectualism in favour of bible literalism.

So as a villain, it's not a stretch. But giving him money means you might as well be handing it right to those sort of people, helping fund another one.

 

[Mudd]

So, Supergirl is bringing in the guy whose only moments of relevance since the 90s were starring in a high profile christian propaganda film (which was complete garbage, like every film of its type), and going on a huge racist rant? He also claimed that jewish people run Hollywood, which is why biblical movies aren't a big deal.

Mel Gibson is going to be on Supergirl?

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

So, Supergirl is bringing in the guy whose only moments of relevance since the 90s were starring in a high profile christian propaganda film (which was complete garbage, like every film of its type)

My, how open minded of you.

Not the kind of guy I'd expect to see on Supergirl. He actually seems like one of the last D-list actors they'd cast, really. Well, Supergirl is going to be remarkable awkward for a few episodes.

I doubt it any great number will be bothered. If audiences were really upset by the views of performers, there would be a mass drop-off in ratings/box office, considering some of the vitriolic and/or highly questionable statements made in recent history. Regular viewers will focus on the characters, or let a deliberate, fan-servicing casting choice (yes, he has many fans) upset them.

"The Martian Chronicles"--

SG/Kara: She says she and Mon-El are not a good match, and criticizes his (soon to change) nature (starting with the club soda)--famous last words before she dives right in.

Alex bails on Kara's "arrival" celebration, and Winn (ultimately) is always is off with James--leaving her alone. Gee, like that--and Alex's hammered speech was not the predictable push in a certain direction.

Speaking of Winn, she's still trying to control / criticize James & Winn. No end in sight.

SG did not consider shooting heat vision around a reactor??

Hank / M'gann: Jonn's longing for any contact from his native world seems to be on a tightwire--he seeks the comfort from a fellow Martian, but has embraced earthlings in a way M'gann seems to actively resist. Now that she's gone, I wonder if he will go back into his shell...

James/Guardian: Even when he's not in the episode, the tension is still there. Good for the future of the series.

Winn: At least he's admitting he might have a calling--in the face of SG assuming he did not.

Alex: "I'm not going anywhere" Almost sounds like a tease...

White Martian: "We're one, pure..." So heavy handed.

NOTES:

The series swipes from John Carpenter's The Thing again, with an alien test involving extreme heat (instead of a red hot copper wire).

Swiping from Alien / Aliens with the "bug hunt" and discovery of cocooned companions.

Amusing that SG did not understand Alex's hand signals after working alongside her for so long.

White Martian / SG / green martians fight FX--very poor.

GRADE: C- for the sticky-fingered picking of famous sci-fi movie ideas/scenes, and the ton-of-bricks Mon-El plot.

 

[Christopher]

A nice episode for M'Gann and J'onn, and nice to see Vasquez back at the DEO. But some aspects of it didn't quite work for me. Supergirl was oddly depowered in the DEO sequences. Since when could Kryptonians not see in the dark? She shouldn't have lost track of the White Martian when the lights went out. And when all the agents were pointing guns at each other, why didn't she just do a bit of superspeed to take their guns away? I think this premise might've worked better if Supergirl had been locked out of the DEO and couldn't get in to them.

I guess the advantage of doing a bottle show at the DEO is that it freed up more money for effects. The action was pretty impressive.

I liked Kara's "Power to the Girls" t-shirt at the end. Not only a nice feminist statement, but maybe an oblique Power Girl nod?

 

[DigificWriter]

I liked the episode on the whole, but didn't see the point of ruining what was a really nice #SuperSisters moment by revealing that Alex really wasn't Alex. The "save" at the end with Alex revealing that she sort of 'remembered' the conversation that Kara had with the "fake Alex" kind of made up for it, but not entirely, and I think they could've accomplished what they wanted to do without making Alex the second White Martian.

I'm surprised it took them 8 episodes to finally confirm a romantic connection between J'onn and M'gann, because it was pretty obvious that that is where they were headed with the characters. I only wish it hadn't happened in the very episode that the writers are sending M'gann away (hopefully only temporarily), because I really want these two characters to have a future together.

Even though she's basically just a "background character", I really like the show's take on Eve Teschmacher, so the final scene of the episode was a little bittersweet because I liked seeing her back, but also wanted to see Kara confess her feelings to Mon-El. I also felt really bad for Kara in that scene because she looked so deflated that I wanted to reach through the TV screen and hug her.

BTW, just in case there's any confusion as to what Kara was talking about with her "Earth Birthday", it's not a celebration of the day she was born (since that wouldn't change from Krypton to Earth), but a celebration/commemoration of the day her pod crashed on Earth and she was taken to the Danverses by Clark.

All in all, I enjoyed this episode, disappointment with the whole "fake Alex" thing aside, and feel confident in saying that Supergirl's unbroken streak of strong episodes (going back to Season 1) continues. I also can't wait for next week to see the return of Lena and Lillian, but really don't believe for one second that Lena is in any way going to side with her mother even if the preview made it seem like she might.

 

[sojourner]

So, both Alex and Winn were already in the room before the lights went out and the white Martian disappeared. That means there would have to have been a third Martian for the scenario to work. Either that or white martians have greater superspeed than kryptonians can see.

 

[Christopher]

I'm surprised it took them 8 episodes to finally confirm a romantic connection between J'onn and M'gann, because it was pretty obvious that that is where they were headed with the characters. I only wish it hadn't happened in the very episode that the writers are sending M'gann away (hopefully only temporarily), because I really want these two characters to have a future together.

I'm actually relieved she just left, because when J'onn confessed his feelings about not imagining life without her, it felt like they were setting one of them up to be killed. So I'm glad it's a more open-ended departure.

BTW, just in case there's any confusion as to what Kara was talking about with her "Earth Birthday", it's not a celebration of the day she was born (since that wouldn't change from Krypton to Earth), but a celebration/commemoration of the day her pod crashed on Earth and she was taken to the Danverses by Clark.

Yes. It's her Earth arrival day, and she probably put it down as Kara Danvers's birthday on her forged documents... no, wait, if it were Kara's official birthday, then presumably all her friends would be celebrating it, so if it's just a private sister thing, then it can't be. So scratch that.


I wonder if Eve told anyone at CatCo about the two people that fell out of an interdimensional portal in James's office last week (on The Flash). They did smash the coffee table, so that would've had to be accounted for somehow.

 

[cylkoth]

So, both Alex and Winn were already in the room before the lights went out and the white Martian disappeared. That means there would have to have been a third Martian for the scenario to work. Either that or white martians have greater superspeed than kryptonians can see.

That still doesn't make sense, as jilted hubby Martian would have to stop fighting Jonn, superspeed grab Winn, whiz him off to a secluded corridor on another floor(?), cocoon him to the ceiling, and get back in time for the lights to come back on??? And after the fire test reveal, Supergirl again hovers in the air (like when the President was being attacked) instead of flying down one floor to grab fake Winn so he can't scurry off...Has she forgotten she's as fast as the Flash?
I hate it when episodes force dumb moves like this on characters. There had to be better ways to make this The Thing homage work without depowering your lead.

 

[Ovation]

I rarely get annoyed when superheroes don't make full use of their powers and I generally like this show but this was the STUPIDEST episode of any superhero show I've seen in decades. Is there a speed dampening field in the DEO building? Supergirl should have searched the entire building in 2 seconds and found the "bad guys" and captives. As should have J'onn or M'gann. And two "heart to heart" talks while a nuclear reactor is going critical? (And why explode? Critical reactors melt down, they don't explode!)

I'm pretty forgiving of sci-fi shows for ridiculous things, but this episode was WAY over the top in idiocy, within its own rules.